"-Too high rape penalties in Norway"

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

http://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/stabell–altfor-hye-voldtektsstraffer-i-norge/3423248978.html

– Too high rape penalties in Norway

The penalty for rape has been so strict in this country that fewer are convicted, says lawyer Harald Stabell.

The profile defense attorney think the penalties for rape may affect how judges are considering the question of guilt.

Stabell mean punishments for rape is too high and think especially lay judges also may consider it. Minimum penalty for rape is now three years in prison, with a standard time in four years.

So, because the laws has been so strict, the judges consider it better not to convict rapists…. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot.

This is in the same vein as the death penalty in the US. How effective is the death penalty, when all it does is to remove any restraints within a potential perpetrator? Not to mention that you can’t bring back somebody dead back to life, if/when somebody finds out they’ve been wrongly convicted…

So, in all things in moderation. Even the laws.

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[AttonParticipant]

Stabell mean punishments for rape is far too high and think especially game judges also believes that the penalty for rape. minimum is now three years in prison, with a normal time of four years.

Assuming a reasonable definition of rape, where in one person willingly and knowingly chooses to do harm to another 3 years is p~~~ all. I can’t advocate prison for those who are mentally ill and who lack even the most basic of empathy for others. However freedom should never be put on the table until such time as they understand their crimes.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Skeptisk wrote:

This is in the same vein as the death penalty in the US. How effective is the death penalty, when all it does is to remove any restraints within a potential perpetrator? Not to mention that you can’t bring back somebody dead back to life, if/when somebody finds out they’ve been wrongly convicted…

I always wonder about the death penalty since if you actually go and commit a murder then you would most likely not be afraid of dying since there would be a chance of you getting into a shootout (like having either a rival gang or the police shoot you).

I think it is mostly just set to give the illusion of justice since a bunch of old conservatives who believe in a man who said turn the other cheek support the death penalty of some sort in almost every case that makes it to facebook.

Now for rape they want to make it seem like they are doing a job of locking up the evil rapists (only some of actually raped especially in a loose feminist court system). It will appease the women so the white knights will loosen the laws to convict someone to keep in line with the femstapo.

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[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

rape trials should consider the level of violence, not the level of consent. Consent is to easy to lie about after the fact and impossible to prove or disprove.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

The penalty for rape has been so strict in this country that fewer are convicted, says lawyer Harald Stabell.

Oh isn’t that fascinating. It’s only what I’ve been saying since I was old enough to vote. I’ve always said that high penalties can help in preventing crime (not obliterate it completely, of course, but certainly help). My parents once told me that there used to be a time when you would only hear about one murder a year – which is probably because, during that era, harsh sentences for murder were more rigidly enforced. The death penalty was more common, for example. Relaxing the rules nearly always leads to trouble. Keep in mind that women rape aswell, and it would be a disgrace if they started being given lighter sentences than they are already. Going by what they’re currently given, that’s a whole lot of pussy pass.

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[BeerParticipant 11832]

uchibenkei wrote:

rape trials should consider the level of violence, not the level of consent. Consent is to easy to lie about after the fact and impossible to prove or disprove.

Definitely…if someone was trying to ass f~~~ me it wouldn’t happen unless I was beat unconcious. The number of women that are “raped” with absolutely no sign of struggle amazes me.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Constantine wrote:

The penalty for rape has been so strict in this country that fewer are convicted, says lawyer Harald Stabell.

Oh isn’t that fascinating. It’s only what I’ve been saying since I was old enough to vote. I’ve always said that high penalties can help in preventing crime (not obliterate it completely, of course, but certainly help). My parents once told me that there used to be a time when you would only hear about one murder a year – which is probably because, during that era, harsh sentences for murder were more rigidly enforced. The death penalty was more common, for example. Relaxing the rules nearly always leads to trouble. Keep in mind that women rape aswell, and it would be a disgrace if they started being given lighter sentences than they are already. Going by what they’re currently given, that’s a whole lot of pussy pass.

The problem described at the website states that due to the high penalty, the judges are less likely to issue penalties as it’s seen as too harsh. If they’d lower the bar, say to 1.5 years and up, then they’d more likely issue penalties accordingly.

uchibenkei wrote:

rape trials should consider the level of violence, not the level of consent. Consent is to easy to lie about after the fact and impossible to prove or disprove.

Indeed!! The whole she-said-he-said shouldn’t be relied upon as the deciding factor, unless the judges starts to use lie-detectors, which I’m in favor of. Such devices should be capable of differentiating between lies and nervousness.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[TuneoutParticipant]

Constantine wrote:

The penalty for rape has been so strict in this country that fewer are convicted, says lawyer Harald Stabell.

Oh isn’t that fascinating. It’s only what I’ve been saying since I was old enough to vote. I’ve always said that high penalties can help in preventing crime (not obliterate it completely, of course, but certainly help). My parents once told me that there used to be a time when you would only hear about one murder a year – which is probably because, during that era, harsh sentences for murder were more rigidly enforced. The death penalty was more common, for example. Relaxing the rules nearly always leads to trouble. Keep in mind that women rape aswell, and it would be a disgrace if they started being given lighter sentences than they are already. Going by what they’re currently given, that’s a whole lot of pussy pass.

There’s been plenty of studies showing how capital punishment doesn’t reduce crime.
Criminal’s brains are wired different with poor impulse control and not being able to appreciate the consequences of their actions.
So in reality capital punishment just keeps the ‘normal’ people from killing each other,lol

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5127]

These laws were probably written by feminists, who then go home and masturbate to the rapey scenes in Fifty Shades.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

Regarding capital punishment:

There were some numbers I was reading a few years ago.

To keep a convicted murderer alive in prison for 20 years cost about $600,000. To give him/her the death penalty/execution, cost about $1.6 million due to the cost of all the appeals.
And, as was previously mentioned, the powers that be, DO make mistakes and execute innocent people.
The same power that could never mail a letter across town in 24 hours.

Hombre

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Skeptisk wrote:

How effective is the death penalty, when all it does is to remove any restraints within a potential perpetrator?

That’s not all it does.

The purpose of punishment is not to “achieve justice” or “make amends”. It’s to deter the same crimes going forward. And one thing you can say about the electric chair is it doesn’t create repeat offenders.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12044]

Feminists: unreasonable, extremely wide, unclear, definition of rape + very light punishments for ALL accuseds as long as they’re men. Guilty, always, if you’re male.
It isn’t meant for justice: it’s meant for giving women the power to punish and hurt men as they like, even when there wasn’t rape.
Primary example: yes-means-yes in US campuses – both a real rapist making her ass bleeding and a guy WHO REJECTED THE GIRL are automatically punished with expulsion.

Men: very strict and well defined definition of rape + very harsh punishment for rapists – innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

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[MyCocaineKeymaster 182]

What’s the penalty in Norway for women who lie about it? That’s a much bigger problem.

[Banks Control The WorldParticipant 242]

Rape is hands down the worst thing someone can choose to do.

I’d say the same about killers, but some killers are justified.

Rape is impossible to justify.

But self-defense or even catching your wife getting banged by another dude… If the guy lost it and killed them, I would be okay with that guy being released back into the world. Or if a dad catches someone who is molesting his kid and the dad beats the guy to death, justified. There is no justification for rape and blatant murderer, religions that encourage violence or whatever… just execute them. We all die but we should make the world a livable place until we’re dead even if it requires fighting back. Jesus accepted his fate… I know I’ll die but I’m not ready to throw in the towel for the future. I’m a speck of a dust with little family left, but I’ll do my part as long as I am here.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12044]

In US campuses there are NO penalties for false accusers under yes-means-yes. Indeed Emma Sulkowicz wasn’t punished by the university even if it’s proved she was lying. Indeed Jackie at UVA wasn’t punished by the university even if it’s proved she lied.

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[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5127]

Rape laws and abortion laws are exactly the same. Take all rights away from the man, and there is not one single consequence for the female if she is deceitful. Do you see the trend is the same in all things female? The “special rules” for them, is just an adult version of when young guys let women cheat at games. Pathetic children they shall always be.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12044]

Banks Control The World wrote:

Rape is hands down the worst thing someone can choose to do.

I’d say the same about killers, but some killers are justified.

Rape is impossible to justify.

But self-defense or even catching your wife getting banged by another dude… If the guy lost it and killed them, I would be okay with that guy being released back into the world. Or if a dad catches someone who is molesting his kid and the dad beats the guy to death, justified. There is no justification for rape and blatant murderer, religions that encourage violence or whatever… just execute them. We all die but we should make the world a livable place until we’re dead even if it requires fighting back. Jesus accepted his fate… I know I’ll die but I’m not ready to throw in the towel for the future. I’m a speck of a dust with little family left, but I’ll do my part as long as I am here.

I agree that REAL rape is horrible.
As men, our instinct is to protect and comfort a frightened woman, the very opposite of abusing her.
The problem is that the actual definition of rape very often mean another thing.
Example: a man and a woman are both drunk, they have an happy night of sex. The morning after she’s ashamed, because she have a boyfriend, because reasons…and she regrets it.
According such definition I have been raped and I raped, a myriad of times. Most times me and my partners we raped each other, because we were both drunk.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Banks Control The WorldParticipant 242]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

Rape laws and abortion laws are exactly the same. Take all rights away from the man, and there is not one single consequence for the female if she is deceitful. Do you see the trend is the same in all things female? The “special rules” for them, is just an adult version of when young guys let women cheat at games. Pathetic children they shall always be.

Part of the reason the gov. is okay with abortion is because it’s population control. Also, less money, less welfare.

With that being said, we should should eliminate the worst of the worst and fill their place with no babies.

I’d rather execute violent prisoners and rapists while keeping the newborns who have a chance not to be total trash.

[Banks Control The WorldParticipant 242]

I will say…

“my body, my choice” is absolute bulls~~~.

For the man required to make it happen, he has no say really.

If the baby is aborted and he wants the baby, not much say in it.

If the guy is broke and can’t pay for it, have the baby anyways so he pays child support for 18 years while potentially not being allowed contact with the kid or if you live in another state by that point…

All I can say is, women have become pampered. Minorities have become privileged. This world is a dumpster fire. I adopted a dog from a shelter today because I’m going my own way… my beliefs are true while the beliefs we fed are imaginary and even use faked events to corrupt your mind. I follow the truth to open pandora’s box. I can’t be in a relationship because the people I’m with don’t care about the world or politics, just themselves.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

In the US a rape conviction can be 10 years + . .Rape with murder probably get you the death penaly in states like Florida,Texas and Arizona.

I was homeless in my late teens and was walking down the street one day when a cop stopped me and started asking questions.Then he said something to the effect :

You need to get your s~~~ together .A “half blind old lady” out here could accuse you of rape and really ruin your life.

The cop actually used the words “half blind old lady”.

Women are a hazard.No matter how you look at it once you take the blinders off and see the world the way it really is and not the way the elite and blue pillers want you to see it…

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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