Tolstoy

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

Quotes from Leo Tolstoy. We tend to forget how much time these writers spent on contemplating on human nature and the wisdom they tried to share with us.

The truth
“When I have one foot in the grave, I will tell the whole truth about women. I shall tell it, jump into my coffin, pull the lid over me and say, “Do what you like now.” ”

About being blue pill
“It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness. A handsome woman talks nonsense, you listen and hear not nonsense but cleverness. She says and does horrid things, and you see only charm. And if a handsome woman does not say stupid or horrid things, you at once persuade yourself that she is wonderfully clever and moral.”

NAWALT/AWALT
“All the girls in the world were divided into two classes: one class included all the girls in the world except her, and they had all the usual human feelings and were very ordinary girls; while the other class -herself alone- had no weaknesses and was superior to all humanity.”

Go MGTOW
“Regard the society of women as a necessary unpleasantness of social life, and avoid it as much as possible.”

No good women
“Woman is generally so bad that the difference between a good and a bad woman scarcely exists.“

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Holy s~~~. That gentleman knew his s~~~! Red pill AF. Thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous 0]

Here’s a nice red pill story about Tolstoy. He and his wife hated each other. They lived in separate parts of a big country mansion. He lived a simple life in his part of the house, tending to the crops and the estate and the peasant workers, while she played the high society lady and entertained her friends in her part of the house.

They were always fighting. Tolstoy was religious and couldn’t divorce his wife. But he was constantly threatening to leave her and run away to join a monastery. Finally when he was 82, he got so sick of her nagging that he did exactly that–he took a train away from home headed to a monastery. But he never made it. He was sickly, it was the middle of the winter, and he died of pneumonia at a train station after just a day’s travel. But they said he was happy on the train, for the first time in a long time.

True story. If you don’t believe it, check his bio in Wikipedia. The section on how he died.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

Anonymous wrote:

… He and his wife hated each other…Finally when he was 82, he got so sick of her nagging that he did exactly that–he took a train away from home headed to a monastery. But he never made it. He was sickly, it was the middle of the winter, and he died of pneumonia at a train station after just a day’s travel. But they said he was happy on the train, for the first time in a long time

At least he died free and happy.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Dafuq? I NEVER would’ve guessed from reading War and Peace that Tolstoy was so red pilled. All the male characters are so utterly blue pilled (constantly allowing women to take advantage of them and NEVER learning their lesson even after the hundredth time) that I read the same qualities into the author. I suppose if one reads the novel as a criticism of the characters, things become more clear. Well played, Tolstoy.

However, I still can’t get past the fact that he despised Shakespeare. Old William was as red pill as they get.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[SandalsParticipant 4254]

Anonymous wrote:

Finally when he was 82, he got so sick of her nagging that he did exactly that–he took a train away from home headed to a monastery. But he never made it. He was sickly, it was the middle of the winter, and he died of pneumonia at a train station after just a day’s travel.

Maybe he got sick before he left, and decided to spend his last day in peace.

Confucius wrote:

Quotes from Leo Tolstoy

Good finds.

[Anonymous 0]

Sandals wrote:

Maybe he got sick before he left, and decided to spend his last day in peace.

Something like that. Apparently he knew he was on his last legs. From the Wikipedia article on him:

During his last few days, he had spoken and written about dying. Renouncing his aristocratic lifestyle, he had finally gathered the nerve to separate from his wife, and left home in the middle of winter, in the dead of night. His secretive departure was an apparent attempt to escape unannounced from Sophia’s jealous tirades.

[SandalsParticipant 4254]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Dafuq? I NEVER would’ve guessed from reading War and Peace that Tolstoy was so red pilled. All the male characters are so utterly blue pilled (constantly allowing women to take advantage of them and NEVER learning their lesson even after the hundredth time) that I read the same qualities into the author.

That was my first reaction too. Admittedly, I only read a few chapters.

[gnuwalnutknightParticipant 57]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Dafuq? I NEVER would’ve guessed from reading War and Peace that Tolstoy was so red pilled. All the male characters are so utterly blue pilled (constantly allowing women to take advantage of them and NEVER learning their lesson even after the hundredth time) that I read the same qualities into the author. I suppose if one reads the novel as a criticism of the characters, things become more clear. Well played, Tolstoy.

However, I still can’t get past the fact that he despised Shakespeare. Old William was as red pill as they get.

Read Anna Karenina and War and Peace from front to cover, and sought out a lot of criticism of both novels from literary critics. From what I recall, Tolstoy wrote his characters as how he observed them in real life. Therefore, the characters in his novels are as blue pill as men who are alive today.

A full disclosure is that I haven’t read either criticism or the novel themselves in several years, so I’m going off of memory. But I always admired Tolstoy and his writings. He’s one of my inspirations.

[Anonymous 0]

I’m surprised at the interest in Tolstoy here. Here’s a short bio:

Tolstoy was born in the very highest and richest of aristicratic circles in Russia. The literary fashion was romanticism. So his early stuff was about dashing young men going off to war and women being being sweet, noble people. Tolstoy himself was a partier and womanizer as a young man, joined the Army, fought in the Crimean War, and was badly injured in one battle.

After he left the military, “War and Peace” was actually one of his earlier books, so it had that romantic style of writing. Also, he was still getting along well with his wife at that time; she typed and edited most of “War and Peace” for him.

The novel “Anna Karenina” came later on, and it was actually pretty negative toward high society and women in general. Tolstoy was becoming more religious by this time, and he considered high society to be frivolous and sinful. And he considered women to be pretty much the same. Therefore, the main character, Anna, starts out as a high-society wife of a government bureaucrat with a young son. But she tires of her marriage and falls in love with a young soldier. She eventually leaves her husband and goes to live with her lover, but her husband keeps the son, and Anna is eventually driven nuts by the guilt and loneliness and commits suicide. So Tolstoy clearly meant for “Anna Karenina” to be a “morality tale.” The lesson is: Don’t be a scheming, adulterous whore like Anna.

After “Anna Karenina,” Tolstoy get more and more religious, left high society behind completely to go live in the country, turned into a hard-core ascetic, and even started his own religious society called “The Tolstoyans.” He and his wife warred and fought, with him threatening to renounce his fortune, and his wife insisting on keeping up her high society ties and expensive lifestyle.

Then he died. 🙂

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

gnuwalnutknight wrote:

But I always admired Tolstoy and his writings. He’s one of my inspirations.

When it comes to the Russians, I’ve always preferred Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn; however, I may need to revisit Tolstoy after this.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

I tried reading both War and peace as well as Anna Karenina in my youth. I never managed to finish either of them and they are still collecting dust in my shelf. But learning more about Tolstoy (and perhaps being older now) I might give them another go.

It also seems that Tolstoy was not a big fan of government, and bordering to anarchist in his political beliefs.

There are also many quotes from him on religion (love of God) and vegetarianism. On these latter two topics I am not in as much agreement with his views. I like my steaks bloody.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

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