To those who lost a child/children:

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Mom took my sister and I from our dad in 1973 when she went to Kalamazoo for her degree, it was hard times. While still married to my dad, she had an ongoing affair with a reverend and filed for divorce in 1974. I watched my daddy cry like a baby when he visited, totally broken. She got him for custody and double child support but we got to visit him in Tennessee during summer vacations and every other Christmas vacation. Mom told me he was a child abuser and child molester, even molesting me but I knew better. My sister is a year and a half older but she bought the lies more than I did. My dad was hard with a belt but was as good a daddy as any boy could have, my mother was more abusive than he was.

Every summer, we returned with the clothes he bought us a year before and he bought us new clothes. He was in the LIONS Club and took us to the Lions Conventions in Dallas, Honolulu, New Orleans, Chicago, Phoenix and Atlanta. He lived like a pauper to give us those trips every summer. I looked forward to every trip and dreaded when summer ended to return to mom and my stepdad.

I graduated high school in 1982 and immediately returned to Knoxville to be with my daddy. At the same time, Knoxville was hosting the 1982 Worlds Fair. This was not a good time to be a young man and I hitched hiked for jobs but when things fell through, I always had daddy in Knoxville. In 1984, I joined the US Navy and while I learned much, I let it go after four years (I did 8 more years in the USNR). I returned to Knoxville and my daddy. From 1989 on, I remained but eventually found myself taking care of daddy more than he took care of me. When he forgot who I was, I knew who he was. He was the man I admired most of all. I remained the good son at his deathbed because he was the best daddy any boy of any age could have.

God knows how he tried to warn me of what marriage can do. He married twice and I seen how his second marriage with my mother destroyed him. I also seen what the divorce took from my childhood and the tough neighborhoods I grew up in. I started a gang and it merged with a larger gang in Cleveland because we had to take care of ourselves and gain respect. We fought with bats, chains, knives, “n~~~~~ knockers” and when I left, guns.

My point is this: If you are a good daddy, you will win your child back in the end. Do not underestimate the mind of your child/children. If your child was old enough to reason when he/she last knew you, they know what is true. No ex-wife, no court, not even the hounds from hell will stop them from knowing the truth about you. YOU ARE DADDY!

[Anonymous 13]

Parental alienation, the most heinous sin in my book.

Nearly always a C~~~ lying about the father so he loses his children.

Think about that.

How evil do you have to be to lie about a good man like that and deliberately try and make his children hate him forever.

EVIL BEYOND REDEMPTION.

It should be an executable offense.

It disgusts me in the extreme.

STAY AWAY FROM THESE CREATURES.

[Anonymous 42]

Astro wrote:

I looked forward to every trip and dreaded when summer ended to return to mom and my stepdad.

Correction; Stepcuck.
Don’t partake of another’s man’s family, that only adds to our disposability and gives women the freedom to do whatever the f~~~ they want, as many times as they want! It’s like swimming in a sewer plant and trading turds!

Anonymous wrote:

Parental alienation, the most heinous sin in my book.

Female empowerment alienation and REJECTION is the closest thing to righteousness we have on the books thanks to the woman’s liberation assault on men. MGTOW is righteousness for modern men.

Anonymous wrote:

EVIL BEYOND REDEMPTION.

YES!

[BubParticipant 1405]

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t partake of another’s man’s family, that only adds to our disposability and gives women the freedom to do whatever the f~~~ they want, as many times as they want!

I like this….

Just rolling down the road

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I can only hope I never have any grandchildren, unless my boys hire a surrogate.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 43]

this is in my background rotation

[DocParticipant]

I took on my ex wife’s son. He was 11 months old when we met. He was 6 when she threw me out. She took him away like he was just an object.

Mercifully she knew not to fight me over the two children we had during our very brief marriage.

I will fight hammer and tongs all day every day until I win.

Had to let the step son go tho. Nothing I could do.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 54]

Doc wrote:

Had to let the step son go tho. Nothing I could do.

Been there.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I don’t have children so I can’t really relate in a first hand kind of way but as an observer it occurs to me that turning a man’s children against him; poisoning their minds with lies and propaganda for the purpose of harming a man…goes beyond unconscionable it is the essence of evil itself. Thus who but a woman could be the author of such evil.

[Anonymous 54]

Yes Pete.
But its really the norm.
Most all of them do it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Astro wrote:

My point is this: If you are a good daddy, you will win your child back in the end. Do not underestimate the mind of your child/children. If your child was old enough to reason when he/she last knew you, they know what is true. No ex-wife, no court, not even the hounds from hell will stop them from knowing the truth about you. YOU ARE DADDY!

I know you mean well, I would definitely agree that a father should try to have relationship with his kids despite parental alienation. However, there are no guarantees in life that efforts will turn into desired results. You can be the best father in the world and your kids could resent you for it. It happens all the time. Absolutely, there are things a father can do to improve his relationship with the kids, and most of the time, you’ll be successful. Still, it’s not a done deal.

Dad’s don’t love their kids because they want to be appreciated or because they want a mini-me. They do it because they want their kids to be happy and successful. I have no doubt that’s exactly what motivated your father.

Ok. Then do it.

[Beast05Participant 46]

Ranger One wrote:

I can only hope I never have any grandchildren, unless my boys hire a surrogate.

Huge 2 on this.

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Doc wrote:

Had to let the step son go tho. Nothing I could do.

Been there.

It’s painful Old Heyoka. I still get to see him when ex brings him over when she is either picking up or dropping my two but our relationship has suffered.

It’s gone really. Sad f or him because his dad is a deadbeat. I took him on and fathered him like he was my own.

Women – so much to answer for. I gave her son a f~~~ing dad. No insight into her behavior

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 54]

Doc wrote:

Old Heyoka wrote:

Doc wrote:

Had to let the step son go tho. Nothing I could do.

Been there.

It’s painful Old Heyoka. I still get to see him when ex brings him over when she is either picking up or dropping my two but our relationship has suffered.

It’s gone really. Sad f or him because his dad is a deadbeat. I took him on and fathered him like he was my own.

Women – so much to answer for. I gave her son a f~~~ing dad. No insight into her behavior

Same here, but I dont dare talk about it on here!!
I married the ” Single Mom”hahah

I new her x. I liked him, but a hopeless drunk.
I begged him to come see his Son.
He showed up on Christmas Eve. Falling down drunk. It was so sad.

Taught him how to tie his shoes. Put him on the bus for his first day of school.
Taught him how to ride a bike. We loved each other.
Life hurts sometimes, but you just keep going.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

When one has a decent dad, being a stepdad is a no-win scenario. The kid will say: “You are not my dad and I never asked for you!” and he/she is 100% correct. My stepdad was good but he was also a puppet to an overpowering mother and did not earn my respect as a man. He did give me a half brother that I am closer to than anyone still alive in my family. Yet there was no way he could possibly replace my dad.

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Doc wrote:

Old Heyoka wrote:

Doc wrote:

Had to let the step son go tho. Nothing I could do.

Been there.

It’s painful Old Heyoka. I still get to see him when ex brings him over when she is either picking up or dropping my two but our relationship has suffered.

It’s gone really. Sad f or him because his dad is a deadbeat. I took him on and fathered him like he was my own.

Women – so much to answer for. I gave her son a f~~~ing dad. No insight into her behavior

Same here, but I dont dare talk about it on here!!
I married the ” Single Mom”hahah

I new her x. I liked him, but a hopeless drunk.
I begged him to come see his Son.
He showed up on Christmas Eve. Falling down drunk. It was so sad.

Taught him how to tie his shoes. Put him on the bus for his first day of school.
Taught him how to ride a bike. We loved each other.
Life hurts sometimes, but you just keep going.

I feel your pain my friend. I am sorry it’s been that way for you too.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 54]

A Father is a teacher.
The only thing you teach with a belt, is how to hate your Dad.

I allways try and teach with kindness and humor.

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

A Father is a teacher.
The only thing you teach with a belt, is how to hate your Dad.

I allways try and teach with kindness and humor.

I disagree. My Dad rarely gave me the belt, but when he did, I could tell he hated it. Mom, she’d do as much damage as possible. I could tell she was letting out her frustrations on me. I love my mom, but she was brutal.

I spanked my kids when they were younger, but not now, and never to really hurt them. I don’t teach with kindness and humor, I teach with logic. I absolutely get mad, but do all I can to not take my frustration out on them.

Ok. Then do it.

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

A Father is a teacher.
The only thing you teach with a belt, is how to hate your Dad.

I allways try and teach with kindness and humor.

100% agree Old Heyoka. I have never laid a finger on my kids nor will I.
I want them to know and feel convinced that I am their most trusted friend and wisest counsel.
No matter what they do – and I do mean no matter what – they can come to me.

When I was a kid that was what I needed. Sadly I didn’t have that. My kids will have that.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[narwhalParticipant]

Astro wrote:

When one has a decent dad, being a stepdad is a no-win scenario. The kid will say: “You are not my dad and I never asked for you!” and he/she is 100% correct. My stepdad was good but he was also a puppet to an overpowering mother and did not earn my respect as a man. He did give me a half brother that I am closer to than anyone still alive in my family.

That’s not my experience. I was a step dad for a while and never had any issue with respect from my step son. That’s partly because myself and his biological dad hand an understanding of mutual respect. If one of us corrected the child in the other’s present, we’d tell the boy to do what your dad said. I don’t think either of us was a puppet for mom. Not that she didn’t try, but as blue pill as I was, I could not get over the idea that the boy was living in the house I provided for, the food I put on the table, and yet I was not allowed to make the rules of the house.

Ok. Then do it.

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