To Kill a Mockingbird Banned

[Anonymous 54]

Thanks Bill!!!

The Man is a Wealth of Knowlage.

I can see Capotes hand in it now.
The King of discomfort.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I can see Capotes hand in it now.

Lee and Capote were childhood friends. They grew up in the same small town, the same small town where the crime occurred that Lee later used in Mockingbird.

When she initially tried writing about the story she produced a manuscript called Go Set A Watchman. It got shopped around by her agent and eventually picked up by a publisher who assigned an editor. That’s where Capote enters the picture.

The drafting, editing, and rewriting process that turned Watchman into Mockingbird lasted over three years. Granted, she and the editor weren’t emailing each other and Lee wasn’t using a word processor. Lee and her editor were both in NYC, however, which allowed them to meet, phone, and even work together frequently. Capote undoubtedly worked as a “script doctor” for Lee taking the editor’s suggestions and turning them into a unitary and polished work whereas Lee had only been able to produce what the editor had initially called collection of anecdotes.

Lee’s and Capote’s lifelong friendship eventually withered away when Mockingbird became a bestseller, a Pulitzer winner, and an Academy ward winning movie. Lee regularly explained it by saying Capote was jealous of her success – success which she never repeated because she never wrote anything else. Lee’s “Truman is jealous” explanation also rings hollow when you remember she worked almost daily with him for years on 1966’s In Cold Blood after Mockingbird had been published in 1960.

Capote never explained it, at least publicly. He regularly praise Lee in interviews and articles for her assistance to him with In Cold Blood, especially concerning the research she done and her help in getting the local people become comfortable with and eventually confide in Capote who was, for the time, a flamboyant gay man. The fact that Lee didn’t do the same for him with regards to Mockingbird obviously pained him and their friendship eventually ended.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 54]

I allways wonderd what happened between them.

Her not wanting to share the credit with him shows that it was probably mostly his work.

This is what they should teach in school.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Bill,
That’s pretty shocking to me. Regardless, to kill a mockingbird was my favorite of the books we were required to read in school. I really liked the Atticus Finch character.

[Anonymous 54]

I like the seen when Atticus has to soot the rabbid dog.
He fumbles first, glasse in the way, cant make it work.
His Son is embarresed.
Then Atticus gets mad at himself, puts the stupid f~~~ing glasses up, reaches down into his youth, mabey one last time.
Lines it up and hits his mark.
The kid gets to see his Dad, like he was in his Prime.
The kids reaction is priceless.
Hes finaly impressed with his Old Man

That and the scene where he disguses restraint with his Son.

Oh yea, ban this kinda s~~~.

F~~~ing idiots.

[OldBillParticipant]

Jack Harper wrote:

I really liked the Atticus Finch character.

You liked Atticus Finch? Pick up a copy of To Set A Watchman and see the Atticus Finch Harper Lee originally wrote about.

There’s what Lee originally wrote and then there’s what the editor and Capote created from her ideas.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[bladeParticipant]

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[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

OldBill wrote:

Jack Harper wrote:

I really liked the Atticus Finch character.

You liked Atticus Finch? Pick up a copy of To Set A Watchman and see the Atticus Finch Harper Lee originally wrote about.

There’s what Lee originally wrote and then there’s what the editor and Capote created from her ideas.

I’m guessing I won’t like what I find there.

[OldBillParticipant]

Jack Harper wrote:

I’m guessing I won’t like what I find there.

How’d you guess?

Lee’s original story had two parts separated by 20 years or so. The first part covered what you know from Mockingbird with Scout watching her hero father Atticus defying the town’s evil racists and successfully defending a man wrongly accused of rape. The second part would cover an adult Scout returning home to visti her father from NYC where she’s been working as a writer after college. The adult Scout slowly comes to realize that, far from being the hero she’s remembered all these years, Atticus is no different from the evil townspeople she hated and holds most of the same opinions they do.

Oddly enough, Lee’s original Atticus in Watchman is more realistic than the “final” Atticus in Mockingbird!

Lee’s editor made substantial changes to Atticus and indeed the entire story over the three year period she, Lee, and Capote worked on the manuscript. While we can only guess at her reasons, this much is known:

First, the editor was a woman.
Second, at the time civil rights was the chic cause of the urban literati.
Third, during much of the work on the Watchman/Mockingbird manuscript, the editor was writing hr own non-fiction book about an 20th Century progressive social crusader.

Basically, you had a woman editor using her position to completely rewrite and “recast” another woman’s work so it was more in line with the editor’s pet cause and current hero.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 12]

OldBill wrote:

I think the unease has more to do with the false rape allegation at the heart of the book’s story than any racial issues.

Considering the racial make-up of the working hours warehouses Mississippi calls public schools, a story which portrays nearly all whites as evil and blacks as perpetual victims would be applauded. A book which states that women can and do lie about being raped cannot and must not be allowed however.

That’s why I am happy it has been banned. Sick of the racial s~~~.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

Truman Capote ghost wrote the book as “payment” to Lee acting as his “beard” for over a decade.

Lee wrote nothing before Mockingbird and nothing after Mockingbird.

Now that is interesting ! I would not be suprised at all.

I was forced to read that book. Sorry to disappoint but I didnt get much out of it except for Boo Radly excitment. The rest was boring to, my opinion. I can see why they’d ban it though I disagree that it deserves banishment, just teach another great book until race relations ease down again.

I wouldn’t be worried until the start banning 1984, A Brave New World and others…

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I remember, the kid sees some guy peeing off a back porch at night. I always thought that was weird and great writing at the same time.

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