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Tired cliche still manages to smash my nuts…
That title should sum it up, but can’t come close. I’ll cover some of my unbetrothed’s witchery here in brief caveman sentences. You’ve heard it all before but this one is like an un-aired mini-series that takes place inside a B-movie that got dubbed into English for public access television.
One sheet:
Woman meets musician/composer via radio show. Woman seduces man, promises child. Man wants child, but must move to France though. Man sacrifices lifestyle, moves to RURAL France and becomes house husband, composer, and raises woman’s two pre-teen daughters, preparing to have another child. (Man performing classic wife’s role AND composing, building studio, setting up contracts, AND classic male house handyman-labourer role.)
Both work hard, both benefit. Woman’s job requires frequent travel, she gets promotions because she can focus on her job. Man becomes primary parent. Woman decides she doesn’t want another child after all. Man says WTF, that’s why I moved!?! Man focuses on his family commitments and career as he has just finished building a studio that cost 8000 euros in building materials alone. Man tries to make it work.
Man says he wants to start working in other studios and networking as was his original business plan. Wife suggests that is just to meet groupies. Man is like WTF?! Woman says, this family needs you here, we make enough money to support you while you develop products. Man asks woman to help with immigration paperwork. Woman refuses. Man asks woman to help with obtaining driver’s permit, woman refuses.
Woman begins drinking heavily, taking drugs, and lying compulsively. Man takes on additional roles as primary stable parent to provide proper guidance for her children. -Because someone needs to.
Meanwhile man has recorded 3 new songs and procured 5 music contracts with 5 different labels in 4 different countries in 3 year period. More contract offers arrive regularly. Not bad for a disenfranchised Mr Mom and handy man.
Enter the abuse.
Woman begins abusing man verbally and physically. Man suggests therapy, woman refuses. 2 1/2 years into 3 year marriage, man decides planned amicable divorce is the answer, but woman still refuses to help man get work permit or driver’s permit.
Woman simultaneously accuses man of being lazy AND spending too much time working on music career.
Man discovers MGTOW while reading about family self-help online. Reads stories, thinks they are extreme examples.
Man discovers woman has been stealing electricity for 15 years. Man is like WT holy F?!?
Man discovers woman committed insurance fraud and lied about a neighbor hitting her with his car. more wtf.
Man discovers that although woman has lived in same home for 25+ years she has no close childhood friends. red flag.
Man discovers that woman badmouths man in French thinking he doesn’t understand. too much to tolerate.
Woman begins imposing hostile female guests nearly every weekend and getting plastered drunk and belligerent.
Man is trying to plan personal escape.
Woman accuses man of being homosexual to make him feel awkward about hanging out his friends as he tries to network his way out of bad situation.
Woman makes up stories about man’s friends to make him doubt their authenticity.
Woman sabotages man’s jobs.
Finally when nothing else works and woman realizes she will have to help man move out and will probably have to compensate him while he finds work and relocates she gets p~~~ drunk, assaults him verbally and physically, leaves the house with the kids while wasted drunk, and plants false accusations of domestic abuse and child battery against man. Man has lacerations on stomach, cuts on face. Woman and child, no markings or injuries, claim they are traumatized psychologically by the event! They are stopped from work and school, I am investigated by police.
-Here’s where the patient reader should know.
I speak French about as well as a 4 to 5 year old child, at best.
Nightmare of legal defenses ensues.
Police see through false accusations and dismiss charges.
Woman then claims man is manufacturing drugs and modifying weapons. SERIOUSLY!
Swat team performs search and seizure in riot gear, El Chapo style.
I don’t speak French. This s~~~ is terrifying. I’m a music composer.
After police find nothing and leave, man searches house to make sure woman didn’t plant drugs or weapons.
Man discovers love letters addressed to woman in the house. then another, then another. A collection with dates that start 1 year after his marriage to woman. Shock, it’s one of her colleagues. 2 more love letters arrive by mail after wife has abandoned man in home without car, with bills, legal fees, no finances and no means to earn money. (composing is feast or famine work unless you are famous)
Woman empties, then separates from joint bank account that man only used to put gas in car and buy groceries. This makes him responsible party. Woman leaves automatic charges on account which immediately puts the account in a -1800 euros debt.
Woman then tells everyone that we know, that I am dangerous, violent and that she has been living like a prisoner for 3 years. Oh, and that I beat her and her kids regularly.
Reminder, I don’t speak French so defending myself socially is extremely difficult.
Nightmare revisited.
There is so much more….
I have now been in my wife’s family home living alone since her farce began, borrowing money to pay essential bills and buy survival food. I spent the holidays alone, poor. This has been going on for almost 6 months. The French legal system seems to think this is OK. Remember I am now an illegal immigrant, unable to earn income, ineligible for public assistance, with no car. And I barely speak French. F-ck French bureaucracy. Seriously.
Here’s the breakdown.
My wife is a devious lying whore as described. She was cheating on me the whole time. She seduced me as a trophy husband on a whim to trick me into becoming a live in nanny by lying about wanting a child with me. When she was done with the novelty of getting me to commit everything to the marriage she wanted to get rid of me cheaply.
Disgusting what lengths she went to in order to save a buck! I have lost nearly everything. My studio is packed in boxes. Fresh built studio, lost investment. 6 months lost in limbo! So embarrassing.
So I recommend maybe doing something like this…
I contacted our “enemies” with apology letters explaining what she had done. How I had been tricked into complicity and did not want to be associated with her in their minds. Through this I discovered that she has a history of mental illness and interpersonal conflict which she had hidden from me. That she does this sort of thing every few years. My neighbor told me she had done this at least three times since they have known her! I was just the “next” guy, the “American one” as they privately referred to me.
I contacted child protective services and explained how she had been mistreating us. I contacted the insurance company she defrauded. I contacted the electric company. I contacted all of her enemies and began offering to help “bring her down” so she couldn’t keep abusing people. I explained that if no one stopped her she would keep finding new victims every few years.
It’s working! Turns out a LOT of people hate and avoid her for good reason. They thought I was “on her team” and wisely avoided me as well. Things are changing slowly for me.
She is now under federal investigation for insurance fraud. She attacked her daughter at school since the separation and the school headmaster also called CPS. 2 simultaneous unrelated CPS investigations… She will probably also be charged for electricity theft this year. ouch… that’s a karma kick to the crotch.
Her ex husband, whom I am now friends with is in the process of getting custody of his daughter back. This makes me happy, he’s a pretty cool guy, and was also a victim of nearly identical treatment and lost his child because of her gamesmanship.
Best of all, if I can survive a few more months I’ll probably be awarded significant damages for all of the things she’s done. I won’t be homeless, or have to start over from zero. That’s massive!
Believe it or not I left many bad things she did out. It’s probably better to keep the story as simple as possible.
Now I recommend this>
No matter who you are going to marry or partner with hire a private investigator to do a thorough background check.
Follow your dreams, but follow your gut. Protect your neck.
——> Don’t marry <—–
You can still have rewarding relationships and children without marriage.
Stay true to your convictions and persevere.
Respect yourself and retain your dignity.
When the s~~~ hits the fan, don’t get angry, get tactical.
Burn the witch, warm your hands by the fire then give yourself a cold beer and move on.
-The longest 6 months of my life is nearly over. I learned my lesson.Beer & BBQ
WOW! Brother, that is a crazy deal right there! You coming back to the USA? I’ve done some (what I THOUGHT) was pretty risky stuff for pussy back in my youth, but I’m humbled by your story. It sounds like you’re going to get out of this thing. I’m really happy for you! Also, great job on keeping your s~~~ together in all of this. If men don’t give in to despair, we can find out just how resourceful we can be. Keep it up!
Anonymous1DAMN, you found yourself a nasty little witch. AWALT.
Thanks for sharing your horror story. Hope you get the hell out of France in one piece.
Thanks Bob for the kind words.
It took me some time to decide if I should share that story. It kind of makes me look like a t~~~ chasing tool. 😀
Dog will hunt… I had good fun in Los Angeles. -but my wife actually seduced me with stability ironically. I lived in Los Angeles school district, and you might as well sent your kids directly to prison and save time than send them to LASD public schools. I always wanted to have kids, but as a working musician I didn’t make a ton of money, and LA is a high risk area to raise children. My fiance had a stable income in a peaceful country with good schools and healthcare. When she told me she wanted me to move to France and have a kid with her I fell for it. Good scammers can read your dreams.
She is a MASTER manipulator. That’s about the only thing I have to respect about her. She sure can pick a mark and craft an angle. I’ve no doubt the next guy is well into it by now.
I might go back to the US, I miss my family and the culture. But also the music industry in France is behind the times. It’s ripe for someone like me to start a label and develop and promote local talent. My skills are more marketable here. The cheese is good. I’m undecided. Actually the courts will probably decide for me. LOL!Beer & BBQ
It’s ripe for someone like me to start a label and develop and promote local talent.
Awesome! I think that most men are so busy looking down at the path that they are on (or at a piece of ass) that they don’t take any time to see the opportunities that are around them. If this is a good chance for you to profit and make a mark, you should certainly stick around and give it a go. Hell, you’ve already paid a high price to physically be there. It seems to me that getting through the bureaucracy to work legally (even just drive) may be the hurdle.
“Hell, you’ve already paid a high price to physically be there. It seems to me that getting through the bureaucracy to work legally (even just drive) may be the hurdle. ”
Exactly! I’ll try to maximize my returns on questionable investment! \m/It’s ripe for someone like me to start a label and develop and promote local talent.
Awesome! I think that most men are so busy looking down at the path that they are on (or at a piece of ass) that they don’t take any time to see the opportunities that are around them. If this is a good chance for you to profit and make a mark, you should certainly stick around and give it a go. Hell, you’ve already paid a high price to physically be there. It seems to me that getting through the bureaucracy to work legally (even just drive) may be the hurdle.
Beer & BBQ
Jesus, that’s a f~~~ing horror story. The real tragedy is that if you told that in a public forum, nobody would believe a word of it.
We do. We’ve all been there to some degree or another… but tell that story on daytime television and you could expect a backlash so hard and so deep that your grandparents will wish THEY hadn’t been born.
Good on you for rallying the true victims of this evil person’s abuse and working together with them to end this nightmare.
Anonymous14I didn’t know my ex girlfriend had moved to France and started her bulls~~~ over there because she ran out of unsuspecting marks over here…
What a nightmare, glad to hear you survived it.
Silver lining: you didn’t have a kid with that maniac. Nuclear warhead dodged.
Best of luck to you mate. That was a story equally horrific, enthralling and, around these online parts, as common as fat single mothers on a dating site.
F~~~in hell man thats some story. I met 2 beautiful nutcase dangerous bitches myself over the years and I believe every word of your story. Women be f~~~in nuts.
New country, new marriage, new language plus all that crazy bitch stuff – she tried to control you, betrayed you and left you stranded in the house with no car. I know that feeling of being in a new country new relationship and being ‘reliant’ to some extent on your other half and isolated from your previous friends/ support mechanisms.
Hope things work out for you now and its great you shared your story as a lesson for others to be wary of these scenarios.
Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready
-Thanks guys for the responses.
Things to note for others to extract info…The hardest part to deal with has been the limbo status of endless waiting in a foreign land, the isolation of living in the country like the monster on the hill and not speaking the language well enough. truly this has been the main factor that has at times threatened my emotional stability. This has put me in a bad state of mind a few times over the 6 month period. Don’t underestimate that factor if you stand falsely accused. It might be some time before you are able to clear your name, and people may shun you publicly.
I’m also very glad not to have a hate-baby with this woman. I got to enjoy raising two girls for three years. It was rewarding to pass on parental knowledge and help shape a growing person. I felt deeply betrayed when the older girl went along with my wife pushing a false charge of violence sur mineur. As children we will do anything if we think it helps our mom. Even if it means committing a crime of false attestation. My wife chose this accusation because violence against a minor always receives mandatory procedural investigation from police. She wanted to shame me out of the picture. I realized this and resolved to suffer through the humiliation. It’s a small village and even now many people avoid speaking with me because of her stories. The stories persist as rumors on the social periphery, even though I have been cleared.
Things that saved me from that violence charge: I have a good sequential memory from working in music. So I was able to write out a very detailed account of my wife’s attacking me as soon as i realized i had been charged. A big factor in the charge dismissal, aside from my obvious injuries and the two females lack of any injuries was that my version of the story was cohesive, detailed and logical. My wife’s account was fragmented and had some illogical actions and lacked detail. I didn’t see these logic problems until I discussed the event with a neighbor who speaks english and studied criminal law, and then later when the police chief pointed them out exactly as my neighbor did. He basically said,(loose translation) when I read your account I can see the story as it happened, her account is just accusations and disconnected nonsense. He waived his hand around in the air and looked down. (A universal expression for “it’s horse-s~~~”)
For example. My wife claims that I brutally attacked her in front of her guest and her daughter. Then she said she went inside and left me with her daughter, and that supposedly was when I attacked her daughter. What mother, after being attacked, would leave her daughter alone with the attacker?! My gut response was “No I would never hurt that girl!” I was so insulted and disgusted that I didn’t see how ludicrous the sequence of events in her claim was. The whole account she made had anomalies like that in it. Cops look for that kind of illogical action in a story. They have well developed BS detectors. Lucky me!
Once they committed to their “story” on the record they couldn’t fix it. They had to get the guest, a doctor, to say the exact same thing to try and validate it as a witness. Imagine 3 people, one a doctor, are claiming the same asinine story. I’m lucky that they didn’t have their act together.
Later on in a second attestation that same Dr. contradicted her previous attestation. Incidentally my wife at one point suggested that if I wanted a child I should try to have one with that same doctor.Lesson: A well documented true story with lots of logical supporting details is a powerful defense against even a group of people lying in unison. WRITE DOWN DETAILED ACCOUNTS OF EVERY INTERACTION! Also it’s complicated to remember an illogical fictitious story, it changes with time, that’s why the doctor perjured herself inadvertently later.
I want to add briefly that I understand that my wife probably has some kind of mental disorder, a borderline personality, Machiavellian tendencies, etc. She’s more than just a monstrosity of inhumanity, she’s a complicated case. From where I am now I can see a very sad person in my wife with a small dark future. I tried to get her help, I tried to help her as I could. I am a team player, I was trying to help “us”, my family. When my wife ignored my suggestions, ridiculed me for them and later accused me of being mentally ill, I decided to grant her full responsibilities for her actions and respond to her attacks as I would to a stranger. I quit the team. I don’t regret that decision at all even though it has resulted in much suffering. If my wife is simply schizophrenic, I know I did what was required to take out her “fangs”, protect her children and survive. If she is just a nasty human being without regard for others, I hope she will feel the sting deeply and perhaps hesitate or lose the confidence to keep playing people this way. It won’t be my problem for too much longer.
In serious conflict, after defeating your your opponent, if you do not feel some guilt you haven’t fought hard enough or else you have lost your humanity, but that is not an excuse to allow yourself to lose. Compassion is a luxury no one should afford when under attack, it just invites more attacks.Beer & BBQ
You are a survivor. I salute you.
Incidentally my wife at one point suggested that if I wanted a child I should try to have one with that same doctor.
Collusion and then another setup. They have no moral compass whatsoever.
I want to add briefly that I understand that my wife probably has some kind of mental disorder, a borderline personality, Machiavellian tendencies, etc. She’s more than just a monstrosity of inhumanity, she’s a complicated case.
Actually, she strikes me as a very simple case.
AWALT.
Great story.
I hope this serves as a good case study for young MGTOWs and lurkers to take heed.This kind of thing happens frequently, yet goes unnoticed.
Nothing my wife did is original or new. What makes her a unicorn is that she went to the buffet table and tried every nasty thing. For the first few months I was shocked each time I had a new accusation. Now I am deaf to them, they are full of desperation.
Here’s a few gems to put it in perspective:
My wife told police that I threw her grandparent’s ashes away.
She also told police that I stole her children’s shoes.
She told the judge I trashed her house.
She told police I loved knives and that because of how Americans are lately I was dangerous. Referring to mass shootings.
She told police I sold her piano, while standing one room away from the piano.
The list is truly endless.One thing very important imo, if you have one of these rabid unicorns in your life, always have a neutral witness when she comes around. If I can’t get one I call the police and explain that I will not open my doors to her or allow her in proximity of my belongings unless they are present because she has a history of self harm and has made numerous false claims of violence against me. This p~~~es off the police, and it is technically not my legal right to refuse entrance, but that’s just too bad. My safety is more important than an inconvenient infraction. I am certain my wife would try some new madness if I exposed myself to risk. Several people who know her have told me that they think she is a very dangerous person. I agree. I take her potential threat seriously.
Beer & BBQ
Sounds like a classic BPD/NPD.
Consider yourself lucky to be alive, these women are fully capable of killing a man – and making damned sure that the finger of guilt is NEVER directed at them.
A site I found useful was BPDFamily. I say WAS because they’ve become infested by BPD/NPD thots trying to explain/cover up their actions. The site has also become extremely PC (ie: as many Men are BPD as women – which is bulls~~~) However the stories are useful in allowing you to recognize the various stages and the general MO.
Quite frankly, I found mgtow.com to ultimately be far more useful – many members have been through exactly the same.
This site saved my sanity.
Be strong, stay cool. You will survive this. It will take some time but you will emerge stronger and you will, hopefully, have learned to recognize and avoid these demons....And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus
I agree about her danger level. I think she is capable of killing a family member if the opportunity was available and she could profit. I suspect that I am luckier than I will ever truly know for certain, and I now treat her like a poisonous snake. Wouldn’t turn my back for a second.
I remember reading about the BPD/NPD types last spring and thinking that she ticked most boxes in both symptom lists. I didn’t understand or want to believe that these behavior patterns were circular and persistent once acquired.
The confounding aspect of those two disorders is that a “functional” BPD/NPD has to develop all sorts of nasty tactics and habits in order to hide the underlying disease. When the hiding of the disease becomes a primary integral aspect of the disease behavior set you can’t afford the sympathy to treat them like a sick person. They have become far to dangerous for you to try to lend help, they even game their therapists. They are disconnected and routinely breaking basic human laws of social interaction. These types in the extreme used to be called sociopaths I think, now they have fancier names which imply that treatment is possible.
In my defense, or maybe just to minimize my personal embarrassment, I like to think that if I had been fluent in French I would have caught the pattern much sooner. But the fact is that you need to trust your team mates in order to be a strong team. She is just the worst type of saboteur for a strong team. My trust abilities are seriously damaged from this.
No matter how messed up it is for me I think frequently about how she has two kids who will emulate her without realizing what they are doing and will not understand the disease they inherit for many years to come, if ever. Someone who can effectively mind-rape grownups is a ruiner of children. -and then there were three.Sounds like a classic BPD/NPD.
Consider yourself lucky to be alive, these women are fully capable of killing a man – and making damned sure that the finger of guilt is NEVER directed at them.
A site I found useful was BPDFamily. I say WAS because they’ve become infested by BPD/NPD thots trying to explain/cover up their actions. The site has also become extremely PC (ie: as many Men are BPD as women – which is bulls~~~) However the stories are useful in allowing you to recognize the various stages and the general MO.
Quite frankly, I found mgtow.com to ultimately be far more useful – many members have been through exactly the same.
This site saved my sanity.
Be strong, stay cool. You will survive this. It will take some time but you will emerge stronger and you will, hopefully, have learned to recognize and avoid these demons.Beer & BBQ
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