Thought about my situation

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    Zoby Two
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    Hello there,

    I’m 39 yo, 2 children. I met my wife when she was 18 and I was 24.
    When I was young, I was a romantic teenager, looking for the girl I could love all my life.
    I was goodlooking but very shy and I though girls were goddesses and men should be nice to deserve a woman’s love.
    Beeing a white knight was the only way for me to reach this goal and of course, I was friendzoned many times because of this behaviour.

    To be honnest, my first gf cheated on me (she didn’t f~~~ the guy but she masturbated him). As I was in love, I have forgiven.
    She left me for another guy 4 years later and I stayed single 1 year. I met a girl during this year but she friendzoned me one more time.
    I told her I was in love, I invited her at the restaurant etc etc … This girl had already a boyfriend but I didn’t know and she played with me.
    We never f~~~ed but she was nice with me, and I live one year with this hope.

    Anyway, I though that if I could meet a nice and faithful girl, I would be able to have a family, a nice car, 2 or 3 children and why not a dog lol

    one day, I found her. She was pretty, young, virgin and romantic like me. Sex was nice. I remind you that I had only one gf at that time.
    As I said to one of my friend, I was in the Matrix. 5 years later, she wanted to marry me.
    I didn’t know if I wanted to be a married man but I accepted. I knew I was a lucky guy because she is (still) a pretty girl, faithful and she wanted a family.
    My dreams became real.
    Then, we had our first kid in 2009. At that time (I was 32), I had a good job and I was trying to make more money. It means I spent a lot of time at the office.
    Around 70h/a week.

    Then, she started nagging. Even if we had a good life, a nice house, a nice car … She wasn’t satisfied. We had another baby 2 years after.
    And m life became hell. She worked as an accountant but she stayed at home for months for raising children.

    Let’s be clear : when I was coming back from work, I ->

    * was doing laundry (believe it or not but in 10 years, she never did it)
    * spent vacuuming
    * spent time with my children (bath, play)
    * spent all my saturdays morning at the supermarket bying food for my family.
    * spent all my sundays afternoon with her and my children. I was the only father in this f~~~ing children’s park.
    * did all the “man” work (car, reparing etc …).

    She became lazy, sexless … She told me I was a bad father, a bad husband. She insulted me (asshole, fool) …
    She spent all the evenings watching TV. She became a Candy Crush/Angry Birds champion. F~~~ing Ipad.
    I was very unhappy. I had health problems (heart attack) … because of her/children/my job. She had no authority with my children.
    And I though my house was dirty. Never ask a housewife what she did when her husband is at work. It is a mystery.

    Then a glimmer of hope appeared. I found on Internet a book (I call it my Bible) : how to be an Alpha Male. The best book I’ve ever read in my life.
    The author (John Alexander) is a real MGTOW. He doesn’t explain how to be a PUA : he teaches how to be independant.
    I didn’t know the MGTOW movement at that time but I learned that a real man must live for himself. He must have interests and not put the other in the center of his life.
    He has to build his own life then the females will just be an entertainment because Women are not useful to a man’s life.

    After reading this book, I found the MGTOW videos on youtube, this forum … Wow, my friends … I can’t believe how it was complicated … I woke up … I didn’t sleep this night.
    I went to work like a zombie. I saw the light. Thanks to all of you. I lived in the Matrix and taking the red pill was painful. But this is the real life.

    MGTOW philosophy made me stronger. I lost 15 kilos. I bought new clothes. A motorcycle (my wife does not even know lol). I’m a new man.
    I’m not shy anymore and girls are interested in me now. But you know what ? I really don’t care of these females.

    * My wife didn’t want to have sex with me ? No problems : I f~~~ed other girls. perhaps some of you will judge me. Sorry, I don’t feel guilty.
    * We quarreled ? I didn’t care. Everything that came out of her mouth was s~~~. After all, she’s an irrational female.
    * she didn’t want me to go out with my friends ? I didn’t care. I spent a week with my friends abroad in Greece. She was angry lol

    Today, she knows that if she leaves me, it’s not a big deal because she’s not as important as before in my life.
    Now, she cleans the house (not perfectly but it is better than before), she tries to nag but she knows that I don’t listen to her.
    I even told her once that if she is unhappy, she can leave, it should be ok for me lol
    She cried in our bedroom because she didn’t understand why I changed. But I changed because of HER !

    Today, gentlemen, I must make a choice : leave or stay

    Stay :

    * She was virgin
    * She’s not a slut (I hope, since I’m Mgtow, I don’t trust women)
    * She let me go out with my friends, on vacation etc
    * She is a good mother and she loves my children
    * I don’t want to let a random man raise my children

    Leave :

    * She gives money to her parents (her parents are unemployed and they don’t want to work …)
    * She doesn’t f~~~ a lot
    * I could save more money because as I’m married, half of my assets are hers. I could buy a house for MYSELF. I want a gaming room ! πŸ™‚
    * I met a girl some months ago and she’s really hot. She loved me but I don’t care because I don’t believe women anymore.
    I know that AWALT πŸ˜‰ That’s why I will NEVER live with a woman.
    * I will pay child support (no alimony in France because my wife has a job -> EUR 1800/month)
    * This wife is boring : she stays at home watching TV everyday. And when she goes out, she calls her friends …
    She told her friends I was a fool and a bad husband when we had quarrels.

    I don’t think I still love my wife … my limits were exceeded. She thinks I over-reacted because nagging, insulting is not so important for her.
    it is too late. I can’t love this woman anymore even if she’s still pretty. All my buddies should be ok to f~~~ her lol.
    I’m still his husband because of my children and because life isn’t so bad when you’re a MGTOW married man. But the Freedom call is very strong.

    And by the way, I plan to do a vasectomy soon.

    What do you think dear fellows ?
    Thanks for reading and sorry for my englsih as it is not my native langage. I will try to improve it by reading this great website.

    #106026
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    Soldier-Medic
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    I would save money and secure a very good attorney to explore the possibility of either joint or full custody.

    For me, the central issue of staying or leaving, if I were in your circumstance, would be the kids. Everything else is secondary.

    Should you have a good case for custody, then drop the hammer. Fulfilling your responsibility as a father comes first, your happiness second. Your happiness can come first after the children are grown. That’s the discipline that it takes to be a real father in an unhappy relationship. The discipline of staying or leaving.

    She has a job……….now. I don’t know what there laws are like where you are but if she unemployed in the future, then what do the alimony laws say? If you divorce her later, you may find that you have some lifetime financial commitment.

    Strike while the circumstances are optimal. Don’t telegraph any of your plans to your wife. She will see it coming and start making her own. Up to and including false accusations.

    You sound as though you have some disposable income. Before initiating a divorce, install hidden webcams throughout the house to catch her being the lazy f~~~ that she is. This will demonstrate how you are better suited at being a primary or at least joint custody holder.

    You are about 37 years old. I just turned 48 myself. Your oldest is about 6 years old, don’t know how old your youngest is. I have joint custody of three sons and went my own way when my oldest was 14 and my youngest was three. You are never too old or young to go your own way. Kids are never too young or old to be in a stable and happy household, and be shown the example of what a happy and responsible adult looks like.

    I wish you the best of fortune in what ever decision you make.

    "I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

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    DarthW
    DarthW
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    Don’t get the vasectomy “soon”. Get the vasectomy NOW.

    #109204
    Jack Harper
    Jack Harper
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    Dump her ass, but plan carefully. As Soldier-Medic said consult a good attorney.

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