Thoughs on Marrying Outside of America

[Stack ThornehawkParticipant 1]

I heavily considered it on my last trip to Europe, particularly Greece and Romania. I am working to make enough here in the meantime, and starting an online business in music, but all in all, I am a traditional guy, and for as much fun as I have going out with different girls and what not, my incentive and plan is to move out of this country as soon as I find my viable HB10 from Europe and my business is set so I can operate it anywhere where there is a connection. In the other countries, marriage guarantees citizenship for us, the men, which is a nice change. I find the European women to be tastier, in better shape, smell fantastic, and they are all pretty submissive if you reveal your holy manliness. So far I’m remaining in contact with an HB7.5 and an HB9.5, but I’m just wondering if there are any expatriates here with the knowledge of how life is after the move and the marriage, if it really is superior to what was once held sacred in this sham of a state in every matrimonial aspect. I am learning the languages bit by bit, so that barrier too, will subside in time.

Any thoughts or experiences?

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I suggest you watch the two following video. You won’t find the traditional marriage you’re probably looking for. Forget about loyal when it comes to women. I’m talking generally of course. Your odds are against unless you extremely lucky.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Stack ThornehawkParticipant 1]

I understand from the Asian background, but I don’t find Asian women to be genetically compatible with my own stock, no offense to anyone who may be reading this. I don’t believe that there is no chance out there for man and woman to exist in a family state, and I don’t believe that its only in a jungle backwater s~~~hole like the guy in the video says. What about rural New Zealand, or Rural or western Australia? Any thoughts on Romanian or Greek wives? Yes I do believe that marriage is f~~~ed up in the American hemisphere, and divorce is most likely the outcome here.

I’m not making the assumption that the woman would want to leave me, but anything’s possible. But at least the laws are not as bad monetarily speaking out there as they are here.

Part of being a man, or at least my attempt at being a man, is never giving up, no matter what. School, engineering, working out, research, its all been a pain in the ass, but I never gave up. I know its different with women, but I will never wait for a woman, but I will never give up on finding my type who fits the bill and wants to be a part of the bill, I’m close now.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

I lived for a year in Europe in Georgia and I will say the women there looked better, behaved better, less selfish, and over all much better wife and mother material than American women. They made sure their family and children were taken care off and loyal to their husbands although sometimes I found their loyalty going too far. For example my host mother got a little drunk one night at the hotel roof bar and danced with one of the construction workers. Nothing dirty, just simple dancing like a formal event, but when I showed her the picture the next day she was like “omg I feel so awful, don’t show my husband”. However on the flip side the women there will drink with the men and kick their ass in an argument. I saw my host mom and her friends pul out the alcohol and yell at her husband and friends over politics because they disagreed. As for marrying one I cannot say too much but I do know a few teachers who were there the same time as me did get married. I know the guy who stayed with my host family before me got married and now his wife is living with him here in the US. I can’t say much on how to attract Georgian girls though since my village had like no women my age. The ones my age were either off in Tbilisi for college or married. The country is changing a bit and becoming a little less traditional and the women are doing a much better job at it. Way more women speak English or partly can, go in to a place like a bank, cell phone store, pharmacy, grocery store or anything other type of shop that requires some thinking and people skills and it is mostly women working there. Men usually are drivers for taxi’s, buses, martshuka’s or doing manual labor jobs like construction, dry wall, mechanic, gas station attendant, etc and it is harder to find a man who knows a decent amount of English. I kind of blame it on the culture over there of men are always the head of the house no matter what. Over there if a man doesn’t work, mooches off his wife, and drinks all day there didn’t seem to be a stigma against that. I think the younger women have realized this and decided to start pursuing better jobs while young boys are taught a woman will always take care of them so why work too hard. However girls are not getting married as often or waiting until they are older. I never saw too much of how city people lived since I would only be in the city to shop, but village wise the women are very or moderately traditional and would be your best bet for finding a loyal wife. I feel like things such as helping around the house, taking care of children, doing cooking, and letting her work would amaze her and be a good way to keep a girl like that hooked because it wouldn’t be like that if she married a traditional guy. I know when I was over there the neighbors had a baby and I was always playing with her. When my host sisters friends would bring her over (the baby was their friends cousin) their culture expected the 4 girls take care of her while her parents were busy since they are girls. However I would always take the baby and tell the girls to do their own thing and at first they seemed surprised that I as a man wanted to take care of a baby instead of doing something I wanted to.

So as long as you have a viable business maybe try a Georgian girl if you canmake it to that part of Europe. I wouldn’t mind a Georgian wife.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Part of being a man, or at least my attempt at being a man, is never giving up, no matter what. School, engineering, working out, research, its all been a pain in the ass, but I never gave up. I know its different with women, but I will never wait for a woman, but I will never give up on finding my type who fits the bill and wants to be a part of the bill, I’m close now.

I wish you luck because feminists is a eugenics program world wide. Only very poor parts of the world will probably the only places you find if that. If they haven’t gotten to it yet they will be eventually.

Do your research on the Jesuits and you will find you are screwed not just financially with women but the collapse of the American economy. Greece went bankrupt as a country. The food is so expensive that many people can’t even afford vegetables.

Marriage maybe better in some aspects in other parts of the world but don’t be fooled that you will end up in the dust. No really have no idea what’s really going on around the world.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Great avatar, Stack!

Here is an interesting and eye opening video on the concept of “traditional relationships” in the modern world.

Geography has little to do with it. You are just as certain to find a toxic wife in other countries almost as surely as you will find a terrific wife in the west. If you get my meaning.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

In Australia they are called “Mail Order” brides (or is that “male order”?).
Mail order bride = automatically deduct 5 Man points.
The criteria are basically three for these girls

1. Bad heart.
2. Fat wallet.
3. No heirs.

Be prepared for them to mail any excess money back to their family.
In Australia, they automatically get citizenship for alleging DV, thanks
to the pussified immigration laws.

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[NewFunnyMoneyParticipant 54]

For what it’s worth, I’m also Australian. I feel I need to offer some insight here from personal experience into the quote, unquote quality international or foreign woman (now back when we met and for sometime thereafter she blatantly and frequently told me that she was different, and regularly attested to hold a whole gamut of quality traditional family values she often noted was absent in her local counterparts) this is the girl who is responsible for all of stress, hurt and uncalled for head f~~~ing outlined in my introduction. She was from Bosnia and had been in the country for less than ten years, she was twenty six when I met her. My partner previous was Chinese and she had been in Australia less than six years with ultimately the same outcome, she was twenty two when I met her. Both where serious multi year committed relationships.

Both ultimately arrived at the same destination, terminus hypergamy.

It still crushes me to admit that. At this point I’m sure some of you may well think, “okay so maybe this guy is a generic loser who cant hold down a woman” well please, allow me to retort! Seriously though I feel it’s relevant to note a few points here on this. I’m by no means an unaccomplished person. I consider myself to be a successful Engineer, businessman and entrepreneur. I don’t really like to admit this in polite company (it’s just not how its done down here) but I don’t know anyone else my age who has achieved what I have and earned what I have, and I know a huge base of friends, clients, end users, colleagues and professionals. I am tall, attractive and am also well defined physically. I am frequently approached by young women in person when out and about doing whatever needs to happen on a given day. I have old lovers and sometimes even the friends of old lovers contact me via telephone or some flavor of social media looking for a desecrate intimate encounter, some of them will even approach me looking for this while being in a marriage or serious committed relationship.

So whats the deal here? Well honestly the only constant with these women that I have been able to identify is that we entered into a serious relationship and made the decision to have a go of it and live together under one roof.

Stack Thornehawk. I take no pleasure in telling you this but it matters not if she is Bosnian, Chinese, French, German, American, Russian, English or f~~~itletsthrowadartataatlas. The constant is she is a SHE. Don’t go for cohabitation it never works for the man and can only be described as an antiquated concept in the world as we know it today.

Addendum – For anyone who is interested I do have every intention of updating my introduction with the full story of my resent separation. It promises to include comments on the female orientated mental health industry and the doctors who support it really should know better. A whole sub chapter on f~~~ my friends and family don’t seem to believe me but her! And now with additional bonus content, advice on dealing with officers of the law and when the arrive at your home unannounced. I have tried to put it into words a couple of times but it’s too soon to be able to articulate with anything remotely considerable as cohesion for the time being.

As always, thanks for reading gents and take care of yourselves.

[SoldanoParticipant 108]

Hey,
first of all i can tell you this : in no country you’ll find worse attitudes towards white men than in North America.
I can’t speak for others, but i believe it’s also true for African Americans.

1
But be careful, you should know what you’re getting into.
You cannot leave only for the women. You need to go to a country you really like,
and will also enjoy as a single person.

2
I personally go for asians but i have a sound knowledge and understanding of
asian cultures. It takes time to understand the differences and subtilities.
But things are not what they seem.
In Asia for example girls look reliable and family oriented.
But they’re also very much in control and have princess syndrome too. Women are women.
It’s just that the herd over there has a different opinion, you need to get married ASAP and family is the focus.

3
To concur with the guy above you need to understand one thing: it’s not about you.
If you’re rich, she’ll sleep with her sports trainer and say you don’t give her attention,
if you’re poor she’ll make you feel like you can’t provide.
In fact i never heard about rich successful guys having much happier family life.
Women don’t and will never see you for who you are. They will never truly understand you.
Which ironically means that dating outside of your culture isn’t that big a deal.
Some women i dated had the same exact lifestyle and others were radically different.
IN spite of what they say, it doesn’t make a difference.

4
Avoid first world countries.
I am not saying you should go for poor broke peasant girls either,
in fact most foreign girls i date come from really wealthy families.
But the entitlement and man-hating herd mentality you hate is pretty common in Europe as well,
even if it’s not that strong. IN particular, avoid “city girls”, and that’s valid for every country.
City girls just take for granted the environment they grew up in and don’t understand they need to work for it.
Girls from smaller cities are much more likely to fight for their family and not just expect everything to just fall from the sky.

I don’t know that much about Romania, but if you like europeans i strongly suggest Poland.
Avoid Sweden, Norway and scandinavian countries like the plague, though when it comes to girls.
Type swedish feminists on google to learn why…

IN conclusion: women will be women, some things don’t change.
But there are subtilities. I can tell you from experience hat in spite of all the crazy s~~~ they put me trough,
i still want to date chinese women.
I will never date a girl from my country again, that’s for sure, i don’t even notice them anymore.
That’s what makes me a MGTOW.

And remember:
If you don’t take care of yourself, no one else will. Ever.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Basically it comes down to whether she will obey your rules and recognize and submit to her place in the relationship. If she tries to rebel then tell her to hit the bricks. She’s the one that NEEDS a man and if she’s become attached to you for some reason she will either abide by your laws or she’s going to have to go back into the dating pool and try and find another guy who will put up with her bulls~~~. She’ll just be another miserable chick with nothing to offer bouncing around to different guys. If she’s not bringing anything to the table other than sex she’s not worth keeping around unless you are just looking to get laid and show her the door after.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

You should just kill any notions you have on getting married.
You have more to lose than you have to gain.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Unless the woman you want to marry agrees to a legally binding contract which specifically states she will get no alimony (or other financial compensation) in the event of divorce (this is assuming a court would even allow this, which is doubtful) I would give the marriage Idea a wide berth.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[In Which We ServeParticipant 111]

Just chipping in here as I am British but married a woman in eastern Europe (Hungary) and went to live there. We were together for five years (married for 2.5 years) We’re currently separated and beginning divorce proceedings. At first I genuinely thought things were different there with women, but eventually from my wife I got ILYBIMNLWY (I love you but I’m not in love with you, or a variation thereof) and ‘I’m not haaappy.’ Maybe I was just unlucky, but I think this is dissatisfaction is a generic modern female trait; it’s not restricted to the US and western Europe. One good thing is the divorce laws seem to be more equitable; the woman has no right to any of the man’s assets that he acquired before marriage, for example.

That said, I do think the standard of women is higher in eastern Europe, especially if you are a western male, as you’re seen as more of a ‘catch.’ Women in eastern Europe (roughly from Trieste/Stetin in the west to the Caucusus mountains in the east) are in general prettier, keep themselves in better shape and have a less spoilt attitude than in the west. They do seem to appreciate culture and intelligence also. So it’s not a bad place if you want to have a few romances without getting entangled. As for marriage, I am  not so sure. I think a western male is in danger of attracting a gold digging/passport hunting element.

 

[AFTParticipant 2726]

I was in Budapest in June / July this year, had a fantastic time.  Came back to Melbourne, full of life, the culture and day to day life here in Melbourne ground me back into boredom.  Melbourne is meant to be one of the world’s most livable cities, but I have no idea how they come up with that crap rating, it’s more like the world’s most femo-gyno-centic hell hole, I’m heading back to Budapest for Christmas, to get away from this feminine-correct crap.  The Eastern Europeans are still more old school, I can see the rot setting in slowly there but its still far more free from the crap I have to put up with here.  Lets hope MGTOW, mens rights or something, will put things right.  The way things are going now western civilization is f~~~ed.

 

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[In Which We ServeParticipant 111]

AFT, I live in London and to be honest, I do miss Budapest a lot but it’s a bit too connected in my mind with my divorce to go back just yet. But the atmosphere there is great. I know what you mean about the rot setting in – girls there are starting to become smartphone-zombies, for example – but it’s a lovely place to live. It’s cultured, friendly, cheap and has amazing architecture, good public transport and bike paths, thermal baths, beautiful women, and good weather for most of the year.

Interesting what you say about Melbourne. Of all the Aus cities I’d heard it was the nicest and most cultured with more of an English feel than the other big cities.

 

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

One would be an Absolute Dumb Fruck to get Married ANYWHERE.

Dudes…I get it.  For the Majority of Us, We ALL want a Consistent, Sustainable, and Fail-Safe way to get our Three Basic Needs met ON REQUEST/WHEN DESIRED:

(1) Need for a PIECE of FOOD

(2) Need for a PIECE of PUSSY

(3) Need for PEACE of MIND

I call it the “Food-Pussy Mind”.  🙂

No matter where you meet Woman in this Post-Industrial Consumer ShietFest,  there is NO FRUCKIN GUARANTEE you will satisfy the “Food Pussy Mind” through Traditional Marriage.  From Atlanta to Bombay to Saigon, the World is a F~~~ed-Up Pussy Market.

As the Great Richard Pryor once Said: “Women have Half of all the Money and All of the Pussy.”  Get Married and There goes your Piece of Mind, the Rest of your Money, and any hope for some remote control Pussy.

MORAL OF THE STORY:  MGTOW is the Path to learn how to deal with and modulate our “Food-Pussy Mind” without getting entangled in the “Food-Pussy Mind” complex dangled on the Traditional “Mirage” Carrot Stick by Crazy Bitches and irrational Dumbf~~~ traditionalists.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

There is no realm of magical brides where all women are perfectly behaved and ideal wives. Women are women, regardless of location, it’s just the level of brainwashing they have been subjected to that varies.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[AFTParticipant 2726]

It is interesting what you say about women are women, basically that they are all the same.  In fact one of the great revelations I got when in Budapest is that men are men, we are the same basically everywhere in the world, but the women are very different, please see for yourself or have it verified from others that have been to the eastern block.  Now after thinking about it further I’d add that women’s basic nature is the same, it is just that the society that they live in dictates their behaviour.  So whilst I agree women’s nature is identical worldwide, their behaviour is definitely not.

Moreover it is interesting to note the femo-gyno-centic culture in Melbourne, compared with the more straight forward culture in Budapest, now the question is WHY?

The closest thing I can identify is a combination of prosperity leading to (navel gazing) Bureaucracy, feeding every minority RIGHTS, until they require real MASCULINE MEN to fight for them, we’re useless until, either we unite to  dictate terms, or are needed to fight against a threat.

So the greater question I have is,

do we take any responsibility for the way things are culturally, and don’t we want to have a say in how things are run?

 

 

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[azmanParticipant 3]

Hi, I am from Romania and I tell you that the women here are as those in America (as I see it although I have never been in US). If you have money you will be like a star here. Sadly, the laws are catching up with what is happening in the US and in the western world in general. If you come here you can have great sex. I had sex with a prostitute once with around 18$ (80 RON) and the girl was very beautiful. I go on the streets and in the some places some women even ask me if I want a girl ^^.

As an advice I must tell you NOT to get married, even here in Romania especially if you want beautiful girls since they will go for your money. If you want ugly and/or fat I think you have enough in the US.

[AFTParticipant 2726]

Marriage isn’t what I was talking about, women are far more FEMININE in the eastern block, look after their looks, and yes they are more HONEST in that they are trading their beauty for your financial support, whatever length of time.  In the west they are so pitifully unattractive, and hold men to ransom, if you want kids in a marriage, otherwise they have the system geared to BAN any masculine behaviour as undesirably aggressive.

We’re f~~~ed here in the west in everyday life, unable to speak freely, act and behave honestly.  Even as I’m beginning to stand up to the bulls~~~ more, I have to be mindful of the politics, of the femo-gyno culture.  Can’t be too aggressive, its like testosterone is an unhealthy, undesirable bad foreign pervasive element to be eradicated.  The funniest thing I’ve noticed is that women are really attracted to me when I’m being strong, unyielding and masculine.  On some level it’s men’s faults, including my own, that we’ve all accepted the Disney bulls~~~ fed to us when we were younger, to be “NICE”.

Woman are all the same, on the basic level, they can’t help it, just as we can’t help our true natures, it’s the prevailing culture that dictates rights and determines how we act.  Take a look at other cultures and how they behave.  Yes women are hypergamous, and self centered, but their choices are limited by their culturally given rights.  See how far one of many wives in a Muslim marriage would get trying on a child support, wealth divorce.  I’m not advocating Islamic fundamentalism, but I’m afraid if I took a real good look at it, I might find I’m a hell of a lot better off under that system than this femo-gyno crap.  Thinking about it openly, Islam should be an easy sell to western men, that are utterly fed up with the current state of affairs.

 

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

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