This makes so much sense.

[MrBurnsParticipant 83]

Hello, brothers!

I’m Aaron, 26, from Canada. My story isn’t that different from anyone else’s but here it is.

It started with PUA actually. I explored the PUA side of things for about 6 years with tremendous success. I tried settling down a few times and found that all women are crazy. I moved in with a girlfriend who turned out to be a hoarder who refused to get a job (and quit any that I got for her). She and her cats destroyed everything I owned. While I worked 10-13 hours a day to support us, she sat at home watching movies and cheating on me. So juuust before we legally became commonlaw, I moved out, dumped her sorry ass, and went my own way at the end of 2013. A few months later she tried convincing my family that I raped and physically abused her. I am lucky I didn’t go to prison for her lies.

So I’ve fought and struggled to recover from the financial and emotional damage ever since. I’m living alone quite happily and refusing to enter any long term relationship while getting tons of casual sex. With one night stands, you *usually* don’t have time to learn about their craziness.

A girl recently said to me “I only f~~~ feminists… are you a feminist?” I thought that was super funny because it was the morning after we had sex, but anyway I said “no”. The question is manipulative and probably works on beta males all the time. I found it unsettling and started doing tons of research on feminism. Which led me to MRA… which led me to MGTOW recently.

Even casual sex worries me, I don’t want to end up in prison because some crazy bitch didn’t get her way. So I’m at a crossroad. Do I quit the game and go celibate? Or do I keep taking my chances? To be honest, I’m fairly bored of it… but the idea of giving it up entirely scares the crap out of me.

I guess I’m here mostly to learn and figure out my direction in life.

[foolsgoldParticipant 5640]

Your story is common and welcome bro. QUIT THE GAME, DUDE!! It’s not worth it. I don’t have any regrets about quitting. In the last few years I have passed up more chances than I can count. It’s a lot more fun doing the rejecting. Especially when most of those bitches that I turned down have probably never been rejected in their life. The more you read in these forums, the more you will be leaning towards quitting. Again, welcome to the forums and glad to have you.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

MrBurns wrote:

I guess I’m here mostly to learn and figure out my direction in life.

Well Aaron, all the very best for that and welcome, pal…

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Aaron. I remember when you joined a couple of days ago. Welcome to MGTOW and the forums.

A few months later she tried convincing my family that I raped and physically abused her.

Welcome to the party, pal.

I am lucky I didn’t go to prison for her lies.

Don’t ever say that again. I;’m serious. You’re not “lucky you didn’t go to prison”. She’s a lying c~~~. Exclamation point. Only in a world this s~~~ty would a man say “Im lucky I didn’t go to prison” for something he didn’t even DO.

A girl recently said to me “I only f~~~ feminists… are you a feminist?”

Response: “Do I look like a fat ugly lesbian? Lets go back to my place for a f~~~ and a pizza. Whassamatter? You don’t like PIZZA???”

Do I quit the game and go celibate? To be honest, I’m fairly bored of it… but the idea of giving it up entirely scares the crap out of me.

Fortunately, you don’t have to stop breathing when you want to quit smoking. Catch my drift? You’re already bored of it, so consider not even thinking about it until the thought of it excites you or you really want to. I used to CONJURE UP excitement and CREATE INTEREST where women & sex were concerned…. but I often liken women to those sharpening tools with the seat and the big wheel.

As long as you keep pushing the pedal, you see something happen – and may even see sparks! But when you release your foot from the pedal, nothing really happens and they are quite dull and uninteresting. It’s just not worth the effort. It’s like playing tennis with a wall. One woman in 200 will serve the ball back occasionally, and that can be fun…. but if you find it’s like playing tennis with a wall, you’re gonna lose interest in that s~~~.

So think about it and wait until the opportunity arises and deal with it then. Ask yourself the question THEN.

I guess I’m here mostly to learn and figure out my direction in life.

THAT, however, is something you don’t find or try to figure out. It’s is up to you to create. And you control the outcome. That’s the beauty of it all. No bitch can ever stand in the way.

Happy to welcome you,

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Welcome Aaron.
I’m sure you’ll find yourself quite at home here, and you’ll probably get advice from many.
My suggestion is, since you have all the time in the world at YOUR disposal, just take a break. Think of it as a break from the game, this way you will feel no pressure of making any definitive decision. Take a break and focus on your (other) passions and maybe discover new ones.
At some point, even if you still want to go back to dating or regularly having sex, you will have a much clearer idea of exactly what you want from women and how to get it with minimal risk.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[GrotesqueRogueParticipant 116]

I too would recommend taking a break.

And I agree with foolsgold, that the more you read the forums, the more you want to quit the scene. I am younger than you and less experienced when it comes to getting chicks laid, but after several months on this forum the desire to get laid with someone rarely pops up. Not worth the effort. If I don’t have to work for it – yeah, why not. But actively pursue and create the f~~~ing interest – nah. With the SMV in mind and my reluctance to play the Game – f~~~ that s~~~.

[Anonymous 42]

MrBurns wrote:

Even casual sex worries me, I don’t want to end up in prison because some crazy bitch didn’t get her way. So I’m at a crossroad. Do I quit the game and go celibate? Or do I keep taking my chances? To be honest, I’m fairly bored of it… but the idea of giving it up entirely scares the crap out of me.

Two different lifestyles, two choices, no one can choose for you, but conciser all the perimeters and time spent playing the game, not mentioning the risks….

I guess I’m here mostly to learn and figure out my direction in life.

You’re probably here because your spirit sees a “new” direction in life, guessing is just a hazy film obscuring something deeper and more underlying, something must have sparked your interest, it’s like climbing a mountain, you’re familiar with the topography from the ascending side, but upon approaching the ridge in the fog, you see daylight peering through from the other side, that’s where the philosophy of MGTOW resides, going back down the same side without clearly seeing the other side will leave you with that itch in your mind unscratched, unresolved, perhaps another time…. But sometimes “another time” never comes again….

[RoyDalParticipant]

MrBurns wrote:

Even casual sex worries me, I don’t want to end up in prison because some crazy bitch didn’t get her way. So I’m at a crossroad. Do I quit the game and go celibate? Or do I keep taking my chances? To be honest, I’m fairly bored of it… but the idea of giving it up entirely scares the crap out of me.

I’m going with quit on this one.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MrBurnsParticipant 83]

Wow thanks for all the responses and the warm welcome!

[GunslingerParticipant 242]

Welcome brother! I think you should be like Jordan back in 93 and take a break from the game, and pursue something else for a bit. There’s nothing wrong with what you’re doing, because you realized that LTR”s are not a good thing, since we can be screwed for common law. But if your gut tells you that you’re PUA tactics are going to backfire on you, then just take a break.

Anyway, thanks for sharing and look forward to seeing you on the forums.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Hi Aaron. I worry about the same thing after seeing Bill Cosby’s situation. These women decide that they’ve been taken advantage of 30 to 40 years later instead of speaking up about it the next day. Yeah…that makes sense. I think some women just want money and attention to make up for their low self-esteem.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Welcome. You have realized the game and are behaving accordingly. I recommend slowing down and seeing how the impacts your lifestyle. You’re too young to be a father or a convicted rapist so tread very very carefully. Start thinking with the big head and less with the little. Female bs will bounce of you once you apply true rationality to the mating game. Sex is an itch. Scratch it and move on. Don’t stay attached.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

you don’t have to quit the game. just be smart about it. get video evidence of consent. Take her out to breakfast the morning after and keep the receipt. there are some other good tips on the site.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Contrary to what our detractors would like to believe, there are a lot of men who come to MGTOW following and even as a result of a successful run of casual sex partners.

I’m of the opinion that embracing the notion of going your own way is easier for those of us who have been with a large number of females and have seen first hand that there is really very little fundamental difference between them and that, ultimately, they bring little positive value to the table besides being decorative and giving us something to release our sexual urges into (or onto).

On the contrary, all of the things that we were led to believe being in a romantic relationship would do for us… stability, support, companionship, respect, admiration, meaning… these things are exceptionally rare, if they exist at all. Mostly what we end up doing is carrying the female (and children if there are any) and then get treated like crap for doing it.

Guys who maybe don’t have a lot of experience with females may find it hard to accept being told this but you’ve seen it for yourself… so giving up on the illusion that you’re going to find your match in a female and have that one in a million partnership shouldn’t be too hard.

And you can still “get the poison out” now and then with someone you don’t have to lie or trick into bed, so long as you get a vasectomy first and take every precaution to secure yourself against false accusations. There’s nothing wrong with sex… there’s just a whole lot wrong with most of the females that will do it with you the same night you meet or who use it to try to get something more from you.

Honestly, at this point I’ll take it if it falls into my lap (which it does, occasionally) but I’m not going to sink any real time, money or energy into trying to get it… not when I can achieve the same clinical effect on my own in under five minutes for free. And since I no longer judge myself by how many hot chicks I can get, I’ve got a lot more of that time, energy and self esteem to spend on things that give me real pleasure… like astronomy, cooking, driving my jeep or riding my motorcycle, teaching myself the violin and talking to you guys, Those are the things that make my life worthwhile and give it real meaning.

[pharmerParticipant 407]

Just My 2c but I don’t think I could ever completely quit the vag. But after the stuff I’ve read on here. FUUUUCK!
If it was me I’d casually flick on the voice recorder on my phone the next morning and have a chat with her about how much you enjoyed last night… blah blah… you were so great… hope I was gentle enough for you…. bulls~~~ bulls~~~…. Once you got evidence of her all happy and loved up lock that s~~~ down and hope you never have to use it.

Never fuck a crazy chick.

[505vikingoParticipant 521]

Welcome Brother,

Clarity will only increase as you grow wiser. I’ve been MGTOW since I was a boy and a committed bachelor with no live-ins since 09. Enjoy the decline all around and invest in yourself. Education, a trade, learning a language, and investing wisely are all possible now. Become the Renaissance man you were meant to be. Good luck!

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

Welcome brother, and fellow Canuck. It’s great to see that you’re “awakened” to the realities of our “modern” society. Good on you man, and you’ll find a wealth of knowledge and experience here at MGTOW.com.

MrBurns wrote:

Even casual sex worries me, I don’t want to end up in prison because some crazy bitch didn’t get her way. So I’m at a crossroad. Do I quit the game and go celibate? Or do I keep taking my chances? To be honest, I’m fairly bored of it… but the idea of giving it up entirely scares the crap out of me.

Don’t view it as a panic situation, or feel pressured by it. No need to feel like you’ve got the crap scared out of you; even if you just step back from sex for a while, like any other substance or drug, a bit of distance and time can bring you some clarity. When you first step away from something that is of magnitude in your life, it can tend to breed a feeling of anxiety. I’ve found that making “forever decisions” in that state doesn’t get one very far. You might find that you don’t want to become entirely celibate, but that you’ll find a different approach to getting or having sex over time that suits you, if you end up wanting it at all.

Best of luck in your travels and travails. The path you are choosing is a proven one, and all you need do is read and absorb the symbiosis which is manifesting itself in this great place.

Cheers brother.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

EscapedMentalPatient wrote:

I’ve found that making “forever decisions” in that state doesn’t get one very far

This is an excellent point. Telling yourself you’re never going to do something again is just a setup for failure and self-disappointment. Better to keep the situation fluid and say “I’m not drinking tonight” or “I’m not looking for a sexual relationship at the moment”. You can say these every day for the rest of your life if that’s how it works out for you, or you can decide that you’re having a shot and looking for some action on Saturday if the mood strikes you.

[Anonymous 42]

pharmer wrote:

If it was me I’d casually flick on the voice recorder on my phone the next morning and have a chat with her about how much you enjoyed last night… blah blah… you were so great… hope I was gentle enough for you…. bulls~~~ bulls~~~…. Once you got evidence of her all happy and loved up lock that s~~~ down and hope you never have to use it.

Hey pharmer, what if she says you raped her in that “next day” recording??? You need to record that s~~~ live! both audio and video! Dolby hi-fi and HD to boot! Several witnesses too!

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

Stargazer wrote:

Better to keep the situation fluid and say “I’m not drinking tonight” or “I’m not looking for a sexual relationship at the moment”.

Yes, very well said.

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