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Check out the website:
http://sosuave.com/romance/david/art156.htm
If women do stuff to win my approval, they win. But if I do stuff to win their approval—I lose! (According to the website.)
After reading this, I felt upset because I’ve made every mistake you can make while dating women. I’m surprised I managed to get a few women in the mood to have sex! Women only have to look good and be nice (Yes, it’s okay to be a nice lady. No, it’s not okay to be a nice guy. WTF?!). Men have to come up with a STRATEGY to date women and have sex with them. The game is set up so that women are allowed to make social blunders and still get laid, but men have to make the right moves from beginning to end—-well, if you’re rich and famous, you can get away with stupid stuff because there’s women lining up to have sex with you.
I seriously hate this game because it’s a situation where it’s extremely easy to lose and difficult to win. And the thing is, a lot of women aren’t even aware of how they make dating difficult for guys. They seem to have this idea that men are supposed to create a perfect world for them. It’s like, if you can successfully entertain a woman, you can gain access to her sexy body. Another thing that irritates me: PUA’s bragging about all the models they banged. Life is sooooooo wonderful for them because they successfully decoded a woman’s f~~~ed-up mind.
Right now I feel so upset about dating and developing my “game” that I just want to quit. I give up. I don’t feel like developing a strategy to deal with women. I just want to get rich and pay for prostitutes.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
And the thing is, a lot of women aren’t even aware of how they make dating difficult for guys.
Wrong. Do you think they actually care?
Right now I feel so upset about dating and developing my “game” that I just want to quit. I give up. I don’t feel like developing a strategy to deal with women. I just want to get rich and pay for prostitutes
Welcome to MGTOW brother.
Fun in the sun: With your screen name, I wonder if you also live in South Florida?
At least in my County, one heck of a hard place to find a good woman!
I met my ex there and we were married for 10 years but I started to think I would never meet anyone there.
Now I am back where I started and haven’t really connected with a good woman in 7 years.
Yes, I have dated plenty, gotten some 3rd rate sex but nothing has clicked yet.It also seems to me that living there warps a lot of women’s values.
As far as nice guys not being preferred by women, this baffles me.
I follow the YouTube channel SimpleSexyStupid.
Since I signed up for some free online info, I got an interesting e-mail regarding controlling women.Acting nice will actually act to your disadvantage.
Controlling women will take advantage of your being nice!Very hard for me because being nice is the only way I know.
My late parents were married for 60 years and served as my model for a successful marriage.
Yes, they were “old school”.
My dad was nice to my mom.
In return, my mom doted on my dad.Unfortunately, it appears this rule book has been thrown out.
I can only hope that self-esteem and confidence will win the day.
As both have improved, I won’t tolerate poor treatment from a woman.
If that starts, I leave.
No regrets.I live in California. You’re right, the rulebook for dating has been thrown out. If I was arrogant and disgusting, I’d have a harem.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
I stopped the dating game, as defined by weemins, a long time ago. I used to date in view of long term and marriage, thinking there were still good women around.
All I found were self-proclaimed “ladies”, gynocentric c~~~s, fat bitches, tricksters, vain obnoxious sluts and the occasional nawalt. I quickly realised I wasn’t going to find me a wife online but the potential for one-night stands were endless. So I decided to play, f~~~ and leave the hoes, but even that was a pain in the ass since they were expecting me to fall at their ugly feet just for having a snatch I was allowed to pound.
I gave that up after a few years. Too much trouble.
Nowdays, I either get one-night stands from going out and/or partying, and that’s never too hard since we’re dealing with sluts here, or I pay a Lady for a few hours. No probs, no bulls~~~, no stupid questions. Just sex, straight the f~~~ up.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I looked into how to do the PUA thing. I decided it would only give me ulcers in the end, and waste lots and lots of my time and money in the meantime. Quitting dating was a relief, like a heavy backpack set down, boots and socks doffed and feet put up. Aah!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Anonymous25That article is spot on at mistake #6 that women are attracted to how a man makes them feel.
The way to make a women feel things is through the use of language to stimulate her imagination into having certain emotions. It has a specific structure too, because if you start off with too strong emotions for her you will scare her off. PUA is a load of bollc~~~s, what really works is to use language to get her feelings emotions and building them like this:
1) safe / comfortable 2) connection 3) attracted 4) distort time i.e. a time you were having so much fun time flew by / and feeling like you knew and trusted this person for a long long time 4) attraction 5) turned on 6) lust 7) imagining the most amazing orgasm and being incredibly turned on (be prepared to be jumped on at that stage).
For ‘safe/comfortable’ I have a story of how I picked my first house to buy and it felt safe and comfortable there and felt like home. It’s a true story and will get a woman feeling those emotions. Stories is one way to get her to have feelings and the other is by asking her times when she experienced them i.e. “if you were to imagine meeting someone and being incredibly attracted to this person, what is it about this person that you find really attractive?”
It’s important to be sensible though and watch for red flags. I met a girl in January of this year and we went for drinks, she was very pretty and it got to the attraction stage and we kissed, but a red flag came up about her past relationship. So then I deliberately triggered a time when she lost interest in someone to remove the attraction.
Once you know this stuff, you’re in the driving seat with women and you don’t have to put up with their bad behaviour. There are 10 more lined up behind her waiting to take her place. It gives men choice. The hard part is not in getting a women into bed or to find you attractive, the hard part is finding one that’s worth having. Finding a kind caring women who treats you with respect, yeah right, good luck with that. Nawalt unicorn
I seriously hate this game because it’s a situation where it’s extremely easy to lose and difficult to win. And the thing is, a lot of women aren’t even aware of how they make dating difficult for guys. They seem to have this idea that men are supposed to create a perfect world for them. It’s like, if you can successfully entertain a woman, you can gain access to her sexy body. Another thing that irritates me: PUA’s bragging about all the models they banged. Life is sooooooo wonderful for them because they successfully decoded a woman’s f~~~ed-up mind.
Vaginal addiction is why men keep coming back to the plantation and playing the social mating game. The plantation is not just marriage. It’s pandering to women in high hopes of getting rewarded with sex. No wonder women do t care about man struggles. They view us lost puppies begging for a home and comfort. If men in our society just begged less for sex men would earn more respect from women because we’re not enslaved anymore. I don’t date and I never will.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
Anonymous11Just become a narcissistic abusive chronic philanderer who gives no f~~~, and they’ll beat a path to your door.
There you go just one simple rule to follow. As Machiavelli points out, finding one actually worth a damn is easier said than done.
Anonymous12Women tend to “Win” because they have a long term game plan in mind and also they are willing to employ a scorched Earth policy. Of course this backfires on them when they are 40 and single.
There are some really good points in that article the best ones being around the idea that men will go after things they want and they hope to convince a woman to like him, this makes him, look like a butt kisser to the woman and no one likes that. Ever wonder why women like bad boys? Bad Boys are distant and don’t give a f~~~ – THEY MAKE THE WOMAN DO THE CHASING!
Finding one actually worth a damn is easier said than done.
There are none.
They’re all f~~~ed up in the head by the time they reach 30 and before that age they’re just searching for a millionaire or want to ride the c~~~ carousel.
If you want to lose everything you have, including your friends and your sanity,,. go ahead and get married.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!In war there are no rules. Feminism ripped up the Geneva Convention on marriage and dating.
First, my brother. You do not “Suck At Dating”.
What you are facing is a simple, irrefutable truth which has plagued our species for thousands of years: “Women Suck At Successfully Perpetuating Their Lies To Achieve A Means To An End”. A modern woman’s life is one gigantic, circular lie. Women want you to believe their lies about themselves and what they want, they want you to then lie back to them to reinforce their lies, and then they want you to spend your life pretending to ignore the fact that their “love” is all a lie.
Take an average standard which is so prevalent in today’s online dating as an example: Some overweight, average looking, un-creative, unimaginative, under or unemployed, uneducated (yeah the degree in women’s studies doesn’t count), goal-less, often mentally ill, penniless woman is seeking a man. She knows full well that she has one thing to offer. A Vagina. She’s obviously not going to post a dating ad which says: “I have a vagina. You need to play a s~~~load of games to access it” As nice and simple as that would be for us guys, she needs to come up with ways to make herself seem to be of more substance than that.
The “dates” I’ve been on in the last decade have never followed “Rules”, other than to ensure that I’m not being abused. Spending any amount of time “studying” or trying to logically deduce what women desire (apart from a wealthy life with no responsibilities), is approximately equal to asking a serial felon up for parole as to why they should be let out. You’ll be met with what are essentially a long running series of masked apologies for who they are; trust me, no one knows just how f~~~ed up women are more than women. It’s no mystery why women don’t get along with one another. They all privately know that each woman is as f~~~ing mental, deceitful and camouflaged as the next. These lists are apologies in disguise, made to look like actual qualities or desires. This is also why they cry and hug each other all the time. They know who they are. They are dependent children. Hell, they are still legally defined as “dependents”.
Usually, when you see a list like the article cited in your post, it countermands itself by the time you are even halfway through it. This is simply because women have run out of ways to mask what they are truly seeking. One can only come up with so many excuses as to why one is the equivalent of a Bi-Polar 12 year old. They then grasp at straws by attempting to show that they should be not only accepted, but celebrated for being an emotional, genetically induced whack-job. Right next to the definition of “Total F~~~ing Desperation” in the dictionary, there should be this symbol: ♀
This has been going on for years, particularly with the advent and continued use of the Internet; now the poor souls have a written record of just how un-anchored, unhinged, and incomprehensible their thought processes are. She can only lie so much about her true intentions before the statements begin to become unglued. So then they lie some more.
One is far better off differentiating between “Dating” and “Getting Laid”. If you want to date, be prepared to lie, lie, lie and lie some more. Be prepared to invest your valuable time in playing a very long game of “Let’s Pretend”. You’ll have to repeat their lies straight back at them and perpetuate them to make them happy. Any soul who desires this exercise creates wonderment for me. Getting laid though? Just be straight up. The very same women who have one of these lovely dating profiles on a “Bona-Fide” dating site, usually have another profile up somewhere else looking for straight up sex for when they’re desperate. As much as they’ve tried to make it seem that men are just running around looking for sex? So too are they. They even lie about this. Women are hornier than men, never mind equally.
These lists are wholly useless. The reality of the situation is they can only beat around the bush and throw so many twists on the statement of “I wish to be looked after and catered to as a child, but I want to continue to perpetuate the myth that I am a mysterious, strong adult”. It fails to mention that they’ve got an ad somewhere else wanting to get f~~~ed by an inked, hog-riding badboy. They just don’t want anyone to know. They even hide it in shame from themselves.
I like the list of mistakes in the article. Particularly because the article has nothing to do with “Dating” or a “Relationship”. It’s an illusion. This article is in fact about what she wants from a guy who she just wants to F~~~.
MISTAKE #1: Being Too Much of a “Nice Guy”
MISTAKE #2: Trying to “Convince Her to Like You”
MISTAKE #3: Looking to Her for Approval or Permission
MISTAKE #4: Trying to “Buy” Her Affection with Food and Gifts
MISTAKE #5: Sharing “How You Feel” Too Early in the Relationship with Her
MISTAKE #6: Not “Getting” How Attraction Works for Women
MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It Takes Money and Looks
MISTAKE #8: Giving Away All of Your Power to Women
MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing EXACTLY What to Do in Each Type of Situation with Women
MISTAKE #10: Not Getting HELPKnow why I know this article is about what she desires in a Bad-Boy F~~~ Buddy? Because that list is EXACTLY what she in fact will want in the blue-pill, ball-less, unwitting poor motherf~~~er that she’s in fact going to MARRY. Those will no longer be “MISTAKES”. Those will be DEMANDS. She will expect all of the above from a husband. And while you’re following this list as a husband? She’ll still either be fantasizing about f~~~ing her Bad Boy, or probably will in fact already be doing it.
In my opinion, just get laid brother. Be a bad boy. All the rest of this s~~~ is a prescription for being trained to be a cuckold husband.
Life is sooooooo wonderful for them because they successfully decoded a woman’s f~~~ed-up mind.
They can have that game, I won’t be around..
Anonymous1I will tell you this, I suck at dating too.
And the reason is simple: I rather spend my time doing ANYHTING ELSE, than trying to learn the so called “game”.Why?
Well, from the little I heard/read about it, it is basically men pretending to be what: a) they are not and/or b) no man should strive to be (a.k.a an asshole or a disposable tool). That being the case, I rather be me. If that is or is not what women want it is not of my concern and out of my control. People that would like to be around me are welcome, and those that don’t want to, are welcome to leave.That is my “game”, and let me tell, it has saved me a lot trouble considering what I have seen so far regarding womyn. 😀
Cheers.
….I seriously hate this game because it’s a situation where it’s extremely easy to lose and difficult to win.
And even if you “win” you still lose, because unless you’ve actually found a unicorn she can and most likely will turn on you at any point she chooses.
I will tell you this, I suck at dating too.
And the reason is simple: I rather spend my time doing ANYHTING ELSE, than trying to learn the so called “game”.Why?
Well, from the little I heard/read about it, it is basically men pretending to be what: a) they are not and/or b) no man should strive to be (a.k.a an asshole or a disposable tool). That being the case, I rather be me. If that is or is not what women want it is not of my concern and out of my control. People that would like to be around me are welcome, and those that don’t want to, are welcome to leave.That is my “game”, and let me tell, it has saved me a lot trouble considering what I have seen so far regarding womyn.
Cheers.
This right here, I am what I am, if that’s not good enough for you, your loss and I’ll just keep on keeping on
A commentator on an article that was linked here earlier said “I don’t understand why guys opt for porn and video games vs becoming Harley Mc Bad Boy”. Simple, women who will drop their panties for Harley McBadBoy are not the kind of women that I am attracted to, why in the flying hell would I waste my time and effort to portray myself as something I’m not to attract a woman that disgusts me?
It is wierd that men never consider the possibility that everyone else sucks at dating. I see no reason why you should force yourself to make a woman like you. If a woman does not like you then she does not like you, it will not kill you. If you want to have sex so bad then go on a sex vacation. Save some money that would have been wasted on dates and take a vacation to a country with prostitues and bang as many as you want.
Currently I find the whole dating scenario to be broken. If the man pays for the date then the woman has to do the appealing, strangely the man has to do both (probably because women are terrible at appealing). That is why you should forget anything that tells you what you should do or be, instead do want you want. How can you expect to have a decent relationship if you can not be yourself. There is no need to give up. Men should simply not play other people’s games and play their own, at least you can have fun and have control over fairness.
There are none.
They’re all f~~~ed up in the head by the time they reach 30 and before that age they’re just searching for a millionaire or want to ride the c~~~ carousel.
If you want to lose everything you have, including your friends and your sanity,,. go ahead and get married.Haha I realized this a few years ago and have put literally zero effort into dating since then. Once you get into your late 20s you realize a good chunk of women your age have kids, and kids or not they are all f~~~ed up beyond belief because of the 14 boyfriends + random hookups and rebounds they cycled through in the last 10 years. There is nothing better than a 28 year old woman who wants you to be her sixth live in boyfriend…just f~~~ing run, shes nuts!
Ya know what else sucks?…………….
Job interviews.I like to date, like I like job interviews (sarcasm), hence, I don’t date much.
I think the real secret is this.
-Be yourself, (Don’t be nervous, don’t force your personality)
-Be funny, but don’t try to be funny.
-Be decisive, don’t waffle.
-think of her like an old hag or a f~~~in’ c~~~ you’ll get sick of. (you won’t seem needy) Act like you don’t really like her THAT much.
-Don’t tell her you like her (negotiable)
-Stick up for yourself, if she starts walking all over you (unless she is an oriental girl fixing your back) tell her to get the f~~~ off.
-Don’t admit you have faults.
-don’t beg and say ‘please’ when you do, that’s pathetic
-Be perfect
-Be rich
(the last two stand alone, all you need is those two.)All I could think of for now, and please note, I am no dating expert and I don’t date much, but I like to be armed when I go to the front.
You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.
Technically I would suck at dating.
I just changed the rules to suit myself. She can do the all the work.
Women have to qualify to date me, not the other way around any more. They don’t meet my standard… f~~~ off
Women have to initiate and display OVERT interest. I don’t do the peac~~~ routine. They don’t like it? F~~~ off
She wants to f~~~? She has to vocalize it. If not? F~~~ off
I don’t play games, I don’t cheat, lie, or pull punches when I speak. Don’t like it? see aboveBelieve it or not I do actually get a lot of attention, right up until they disqualify themselves. Then it is the option above.
That’s just me thoughThere was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
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