this is quite sad

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Mr Logic wrote:

System is f~~~ed. I’m already telling my son at the age of 11 to NOT get involved with women and DO NOT join the military. There really is nothing to fight for at this point outside of yourself and your close friends and family. Keep the circle small. I’m not letting him end up miserable because western civilization is cucked to f~~~ing hell. I just won’t have it.

DING!

This!

I call it the “Circles of Trust”. It is real small… my kids, my parents. Next circle would be the gf and friends. The next circle is people I’m associated with that I am essentially “allied” with. (e.g. needed co-worker, or neighbor on the same page). The next circle is my immediate community. The next circle would be Americans in general. The further out the circles are, the less I give a f~~~.

My 20-yr old is already on board with that philosophy… he is red-pilled through and through. I don’t expect him to make the mistake of sacrificing himself for others. I was going to say “sacrifice himself for those who don’t deserve it” but then I realized that no one deserves it.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 2]

Mr Logic wrote:

System is f~~~ed. I’m already telling my son at the age of 11 to NOT get involved with women and DO NOT join the military. There really is nothing to fight for at this point outside of yourself and your close friends and family. Keep the circle small. I’m not letting him end up miserable because western civilization is cucked to f~~~ing hell. I just won’t have it.

Amen. I cant understand why any man would want to join the military just so they can be used as a bullet catcher for a gynocentric government. Being a soldier is the shining definition of playing the role of the disposable male. Any man living in a western country that thinks his government gives a f~~~ about him should go talk to veterans that came back with PTSD and missing limbs to find out how much their government really cares. These men end up on the streets homeless while some skank whose only accomplishment in life is popping out 8 kids with 8 different fathers that she can’t even identify gets a big government check and free housing. It’s f~~~ing disgusting. I’d rather move to some foreign country like Nepal, or even rot in a damn jail cell than allow myself to be put in the line of fire to defend a gynocentric government.

[Anonymous 1]

Yup, I watched Vets like him get destroyed all through my childhood. That is why I would NEVER join the military, even if there was a draft.

This Vet, fought for the Gynocentric system that has destroyed so many lives including his own. The sad part is…he doesn’t even realize it.

[guiParticipant 825]

I feel the need to point out that if you really stop to think about it even the honor code of samurais and knights is a tool of control. It’s indocrination so their lords could have absolute control over them and, in the case of the samurais, order them to take their lives once they “dishonored” themselves so they would no longer be bothersome when they stopped being useful to their masters.

As noble as the ideals of knights and samurais may have been and even though I understand the admiration for those ideals, those men were servants and not masters.

That’s why even though I have my own set of morals and my own code I always pay attention to not let people use their definition of honor to enslave me.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

An uncle of mine while deployed in Korea during the Korean war killed himself when her got a “Dear John” letter .

The kunt left him for another .

SMH

Joining the military is a fools errand .

Risk you life and limb .

Dont expect any sincere help when or IF you come home .

🙁

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Remember MAYOR OF MGTOWN, he used to go out there and tangle with the homeless men. Heart wrenching s~~~ for sure.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

It’s funny to me, when people bash armed service yet those people have never served or experienced boot camp, or drill maneuvers or being in theater. They’ve never packed a green sea-bag, kissed their mother good bye, filled sangbags, patrolled for IEDs or slept face down in the sand.

So you can blast patriotism and scorn them for volunteering to die…. LOL… but you never had the b~~~~ to go on an adventure like that and have no f~~~ing idea what you’re talking about. F~~~ing coward. Hey Savage, you’re supposedly a doctor yes? How about being a f~~~ing combat medic you pussy, go save a man’s life instead of sitting cushy office chair patronizing armed service.

You may as well be poking fun at people who climb Mt. Everest or take a year out of their life to hike the Appalachian Trail. Whatever man.

The treasure in life isn’t wealth or musing about government/philosophy… no the wealth in life is experiences you can look back on. I wouldn’t trade my trials/memories in the armed service for a college diploma or a million dollars, no way. I’d also do it all over again.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Sorry Savage, maybe Im out of line to suggest that. You have many years on me and have likely seen a lot of death on the table. People join the service because they’re young men who want ADVENTURE and great brotherhood experiences. It’s incomparable to anything else. That is not something to mock, neither is patriotism but patriotism doesn’t have much to do with it, they want an adventure. So they’re fools for wanting see the world and get tough? Come on. Leave the politics aside for a minute.

[MenckenParticipant 693]

Just because it takes courage to fight does not mean the cause is moral. Lots of people bravely took up arms to fight for their rulers, kings, dictators, and politicians. Likewise, many dissenters here telling people not to enlist are veterans.

You want to courageously serve your country? Then go organize a tax protest, peaceful civil disobedience, and challenge their authority over you. Freedom from being ruled over is far more meaningful than special songs at football games or strips of cloth given to disposable soldiers.

Misogynist - A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

I see nothing in that video to indicate that dude served in the military at all. I have seen too many “Stolen Valor” type situations, especially among the homeless who do it to get sympathy/resources to take it at face value. I served…lost my leg in the sand box. I signed up to get away from my upbringing, and to “become a man”. I did. I served overseas because my Brothers-in-Arms were being sent overseas, and my country was attacked. They were my new family. I fought, and watched my Bro’s bleed and die, for my Brothers and maybe not for the “America” of late…but for the IDEA of An America: The idea that was, and hopefully can be again. I didn’t lose my leg and part of my humanity for any other reason. Those of you who choose to: you can criticize The Soldier all you want. In the end, you would have *nothing* if it were *not* for the Soldier. You don’t get ANY of your freedoms from the teachers, politicians or media pundits. You get it from the Soldiers. Or, in my case, the Marines. Frankly, I don’t know *anyone* from my circles who would be caught dead in that guy’s situation. Too many friends to rely on if needed and, frankly, too much pride. I wouldn’t let a woman put me in that situation. Ever notice how so many of these homeless “veterans” were ex-Green Berets or ex-Navy SEALs? They are full of s~~~! Most of them are just lying, useless chumps looking to get something for nothing. I have seen it too many times….

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[Anonymous 42]

Remember JJ?

[Anonymous 42]

The angry cat is tearing up the sofa!

[Anonymous 42]

The angry cat is down to the sofa springs!

[ThaddeusParticipant 71]

F~~~ you. You strap on a gun and go strutting around another man’s country you deserve to get shot or blown the f~~~ up. Stay in your own goddam country and make that better, and stay the f~~~ out of places that don’t belong to you.

"And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her."

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

BOO F~~~ING HOO
I understand now what happened to this site.
This topic started with empathy for another mans struggle and turned into a disrespectful bitching session with the veterans being the ones your bitching about.

grouping up of male humans with the same viewpoints and not a free thinker will speak up and say it..

Bet some of you have heard of Terrance Popp

Men and adult male human beings are not the same thing..

This is not sad its a disgrace and disrespectful to those struggling.

Humans are tribal like creatures who gather in groups and attack the weak and helpless. (or one alone)

I pray this site did fall in the hands of the Government. Would be the best thing for it.

The veterans are not attacking any one of you.
three generations of my family served and I still have family abroad.

I don’t have a thing against any one of you, but expect to be attacked or ignored every-time I check in and leave a comment. Most times I am not disappointed. I don’t believe its just red pill rage anymore because some have been here long enough to gain understanding, but still will not respect the opinions and beliefs of others.

L&R bitch bitch bitch

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

Bet some of you have heard of Terrance Popp

Be careful who YOU are being affilated with Harpo. You and I were at this website going back over 3 years. I was here under two different accounts at that point.

You now hang out at TIM, do you not believe that what Gargamel did here, that he wont do there as well?

His psychopathy knows no bounds and has no allegiances. He has no moral foundation. His aim isn’t, at bottom, to help men or befriend a suffering man, NO, his mission is to achieve power, 1+s, status, recognition and to basically be an megalomaniac; arrogant, selfish and unreasonable in every respect…

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

You now hang out at TIM, do you not believe that what Gargamel did here, that he wont do there as well?

He will do this same s~~~, everywhere he goes. Do you think a man like Terrance Pop would endorse the Cat? Would Tarrance stand behind what Gargamel is doing here? Absolutely not!

There is a common decency amongst MEN that Gargamel has not even the remotest sense of.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Well, he is not “out”…

Gravel Pit has just started 9 more threads to f~~~ with me. That makes 22 threads against my personality.

And I shut them down. If the admin doesn’t do his job, than I must.

I contributed 10000 real MGTOW posts and I am NOW responsible “for men committing suicide” as Gravel Pit claims.

I will shut him down. Even if it means that the database blows up.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Gravel Pit Wrote: You now hang out at TIM, do you not believe that what Gargamel did here, that he wont do there as well?

Irrelevant what I believe because I cannot nor would I ever attack you for what you believe..
I respect your right to have your own exclusive beliefs. You should do the same for me.
freedom of association. freedom to speak for ones self.

Don’t cry to me about Gargamel if you have a problem with him don’t spill your problem out on me..

Men who are going their own way do not need a group to validate their position.

I am not speaking for or about anyone but me.

Is this a threat?

Be careful who YOU are being affilated with Harpo.

I am affiliated exclusively and only with the spirit of one MAN.

You know I am A man of faith and my Bible says trust no man But put full faith and trust in your father in heaven..

I respect your right to believe anything you wish..
Nothing I wrote had anything to do with who or where I hang out.
I don’t regulate your hang outs or affiliations.
I respect your right to make your own choices with no implied threats.

Do the same for me please.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Be careful who YOU are being affilated with Harpo. You and I were at this website going back over 3 years. I was here under two different accounts at that point.

And got thrown out for trolling.

Starting 22 threads over a private dislike is a punt criteria.

People outside of here see this stalking taking place and avoid the website.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

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