This had a long time coming!

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I’ve actually been posting on here for a few weeks by now, and after reading through the Introductions threads and all the stories, I realized I hadn’t even told my story yet. Some of you already know some of my story from other threads, but there’s always the new guys that are joining up who haven’t heard it yet.

I’ve gone full-MGTOW since 2005. My story about why I went MGTOW is related to several incidents in my life. Starting with my childhood background. My mother was(still is)a sick sadistic bitch with Borderline Personality Disorder and some form of Bi-Polar and Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde transformation. She has gone through four marriages in the grand total of 32 years. Her longest marriage has been 11 years and her shortest(which was her 4th)was only six months. She has a very abusive personality that is hard to see if you first meet her, but is obviously not too hard to believe considering the other stories in here.

She divorced my real dad in 1989 because his hope that their 3 kids can go to a private live-in academy for some REAL education was deemed by her as “evil and controlling, and trying to get rid of the children.” She remarried in 1990 to an Air Force sergeant, and over the course of 11 years, wiped him out mentally and financially. He was dead inside when they divorced in 2001, with a $40,000 debt, and having to pay her almost 70 percent of his take-home pay in alimony and child support. To this day, he hasn’t mentally recovered and is still financially struggling to stay on his feet.

She remarried in 2003 to a truck driver who owns 8 of his own trucks and has 7 drivers working for him. He was an okay-guy, kind of weird for my taste, but within 6 months, she had paranoid delusions about how her third catch has “Mafia connections” and that he was always trying to “do away” with her, and they were separated. Their divorce finally became official in 2013 because she was afraid to file for divorce due to her fear that his “Mafia hit men” might try to track her down and neutralize her. Her 4th marriage ended because they got in their first argument where HE won the argument by proving himself right and in her own words, “he is a mean asshole and I want out.” Lucky for him, he got out of the marriage without having to pay any alimony, and with her youngest already past 18, she gets no child support.

Being very manipulative and abusive, and having pushed me to the edge mentally with her bulls~~~ several years ago before I finally severed all contact with her, she is now living in extreme poverty with no job and NOBODY to care for her. None of her 7 kids wants anything to do with her, her family has disowned her, and as of last week, she is now in jail on a THEFT charge.

While serving as a combat engineer with the U.S. Army(I enlisted one day after high school graduation to get away from my mom), I got engaged to be married. I was still in my NAWALT phase, well aware that most women were bulls~~~ because of some horror stories with some girls when I came of age in my school days, but with a faint hope that this girl I met would be the right one for me and I was trying to keep my past traumatic experiences from repeating itself, hoping for a fresh start at life. I figured I could get married, deny my mom any right to see the family I was going to start, and put the past behind me. And then just days before the wedding, the bitch cheated on me. She did a damn fine job showing her affectionate and lovable side to me for the 9 months that we were dating and engaged, but I happened to see her making out with a civilian guy who obviously made more money than what a low-ranking enlisted man in the U.S. Army could make on a paycheck. When I confronted her, the tears and excuses came. She was “just stressed and under pressure” and wanted another chance.

I gave her a chance…the chance at staying the hell out of my life and I walked away from her forever. My heart was shattered and for the next few years, I had trouble even looking a woman in the eye. From this point on, I swore I would never get married and that my only duty in life was to myself. I shunned the propaganda teachings of my church, saying that my duty was to find a woman, marry her, and take care of her because “that is what faithful men of the Priesthood must do.” Not one of them ever had an answer to my question on what was in it for me. The only answer they could manage was “eternal happiness and good blessings.” I said, “No, what about right NOW? Why should I just find a woman who has been brainwashed by society to hate men, give her MY house, MY money, and hope that she doesn’t get bored and give me the ax when they have every incentive to do so at ANY time?” They couldn’t even give me an explanation, just the usual “Not all women are like that.” So by 2006, I stopped giving a damn what my church thinks and buried myself into my work.

After I left the army, I worked numerous jobs. Thought about going to college, but in 2007, the Internet gave me a huge serving of numerous horror stories about how men are being treated on college campuses nationwide by indoctrinated feminists and their defenders, and as we all know, the situation has not improved. From 2008 to 2012, I was more concerned with keeping a job and the paychecks coming due to the collapse of the economy and so many unemployed people who could easily replace me if my bosses wanted to. I tried casual online dating at times, but the whole online dating was a JOKE. In fact, seeing the numerous dating profiles of women and what they demand in a man only cemented my resolve as a MGTOW and made me realize I wasn’t missing anything. Women I met in person would keep me in their friend zone so long, I could have set up shop in there and run for public office. But after my failed engagement, which was a mere week and a half away from turning into just another bulls~~~ American marriage/divorce, I had stopped being emotionally involved with women, so I never took them seriously online. I laughed at their efforts to try and “start a life with me” when we haven’t even bothered to meet in person. A couple of the women I managed to meet who friend-zoned me afterward tried to get me interested again by saying I was the only man for them, and the only true nice one they ever knew, but I blocked all contact, laughed my ass off, and kept moving forward with my life.

I am now 5 months away from turning 30, work one job in construction, another job hauling freight on 3 overnight shifts a week for a Retail store, have my own small apartment, and with the exception of my sisters(all three of them being AMAZING and wonderful women, 2 of them being happily married and showering their husbands with affection and love long after the wedding day)and my nieces, I am completely woman-free in my life, and this site has been a HUGE help with it’s inspiration. I come on here every day to post and offer my 2 cents and it’s great to see other men waking up and making MGTOW as their compass in life.

I just wanted to say, even after I had been here for a couple of months, that this place is awesome and one of the best sites I have ever been to. And to offer my long-delayed introduction to those who don’t know of me yet.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

People like your mom made my life a living hell. A bipolar girl in my homeschool group went psycho one day and accused me of stalking her. As a result of my parents and their gullabeness they put me in athens bible school as a punishment.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I didn’t even do anything to provoke that mentally ill bitch to accuse me of that plus my parents hate me because I’m an atheist.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[…Spectator 1165]

MG 85: Good evening bro. I’ve been seeing your posts for awhile, and always enjoy reading you. thanks for sharing your story man. women are lunatics…we all have to learn that even when we want to believe differently because when they are being nice, it is always short lived before they strike like black widow spiders and cut off our b~~~~ while smiling into our faces.

i’m really glad you are here. this place has helped me a lot as well in spite of its shortcomings. thanks for your intro. hope you’ll go read mine sometime as well. cheers!

[Anonymous 42]

Hey toe-85, nice intro, says allot about you, and clarifies your prior posts, I mean s~~~; Justifies your prior posts, and validated ours. It’s too bad for your mother, I have no sympathy for people (men or women) who shoot arrows straight up in the air, then act all surprised when they get stuck in the eye. That life, grow up! Thanks for the intro, Thumbs ^^(:

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Just finished reading your intro last night, ListenUp. Really good story, by the way!!!

I also had a good story from the school-hell days when I was just discovering girls as attractive. For saying hi to one girl every morning by her locker, she turned me in as a “stalker.” When I got p~~~ed and avoided her like hell, all of a sudden, she finds me attractive and wants me to be her new best friend/boyfriend. Even her girlfriends came up and urged me to give her another chance.

Now I realize that women respond better to hostility than niceness and polite compliments. Just like when KeyMaster recently mentioned an experiment he did on a dating site where he got ZERO replies to 50 compliments he gave, and then 42 quick responses to 50 insults he sent. SAME F~~~ING S~~~. Women would rather want to be with the guy who hates them and avoids them like hell, not the one who says hi to them every morning as an attempt to be nice and friendly.

To keep a long story short, this girl corners me because she wants her second chance(and perhaps the shot at a more-sinister plan she had cooked up to humiliate me as a guy in the future)and is trying to soften my defenses with her apologies. Not knowing who to trust or who my real friends are, I wouldn’t give her the light of day, and I told her to f~~~ off before I happen to report HER for being a “stalker.” She was crying as I turned and left. Never knew a girl’s tears could be so satisfying.

I’ve had other friendships with other girls in junior high and high school, but this was the only one where I was just a “stalker” to the girl, and then automatic dating material once I avoided her like hell in retaliation. But I was more careful with women after this event, and just limited myself to casual school friendships. Hell, I lost touch with every single woman I knew from high school and I ran with the POPULAR crowd!

It was funny to go to my high school’s 5th reunion in 2009 and see that most of the women I once found as hot and attractive to be now 40-50 pounds heavier, saddled with kids and strollers, how their faces were beginning to sag from obesity issues, and yet I had rarely even changed in my looks since I was 18 years old. Blast from the past, right? The girls all said, “You haven’t even changed a bit! You look so great!”

Wish I could have said the same for them. It was enough to avoid going to my 10th reunion last year. I’m betting that most of the girls now are divorced, still saddled with kids, and be trying to get into my pants because my looks hadn’t changed that much in 10 years. But in 2014, I was too deeply sunk into MGTOW to give a damn about a high school reunion.

Yes, I’m quite the storyteller on here, aren’t I? Yeah, I got a lot of stories, many of them being journal entries or flashbacks from my childhood. Flashbacks that come back as nightmares. More than once, I’ve jolted awake in a cold sweat yelling, “F~~~ YOU, BITCH!” And despite having only 2-4 hours of sleep, I remain wide awake the entire rest of the night. Perhaps some of these stories can help other guys online to strengthen their resolve. Reading your stories have sure helped the same for ME.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

mgtow_85 wrote:

Women I met in person would keep me in their friend zone so long, I could have set up shop in there and run for public office.

Im rich, you know why? Cause I found Internet Gold 🙂

Great Intro !Looking forward to read more on here.

Stay true to positive thinking, good deeds and to yourself !

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[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Thanks, buddy! Read the intros. They are full of heartbreak, but also inspiration to others on to why this sort of thing should never happen again! A good piece of inspiration to avoid marriage…is to go to your local Walmart and see what Cupcake would be turning into, with all of them nagging at their husbands, and most of the men just being brought along because they are chauffeurs.

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

MGTOW_85, are you/were you, by chance, Mormon? I grew up in that religion and couldn’t help noticing some of the stuff you said about your churches views on gender roles and marriage sounds very similar to what I heard when I used to go.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

You NAILED it, KingOfTheSea!

Of course, I’m pretty much inactive now. That church is too damn family-oriented for my taste. There are a few nice people here and there every now and then, but for the most part, the rest are assholes and completely self-centered.

You ever try to go to a family ward as a bachelor? You stick out like a sore thumb. You go to church 30 minutes early, find your own spot, and then some couples come in 10 minutes late and EXPECT you to give up your entire seat to them and their crying brats as if they’re saying, “Thanks for saving our seat for us, loser. You can go find another spot now because we DESERVE this seat more than you do!”

I stopped being active because I would be scheduled for some appointments with my local bishop and he would deliberately schedule someone else to be coming at the same time. Double-booked every time I tried. I would wait it out and then end up being bypassed by other people scheduled after me, and I was the invisible man. I figured this was their way of telling me to go to hell, and that just because I don’t have a wedding ring on, I am nowhere on their list of priorities over people to see.

And I got tired of the “eternal blessings of marriage” lessons shoved down my throat. THIS from the same church that stopped talking to my family just because my parents divorced when I was 16 and they were doing it to show their disapproval! THIS from the same church that can’t give me ONE answer as to the benefits of marriage besides “eternal bliss.” I ask what about HERE AND NOW and they never have an answer, as if they’re perfectly willing to marry a woman who hates them, to endure 50 years of bitchy nagging, or taking a risk at the insanely-rising divorce rate in the Church just for “eternal bliss.” They get married because they feel like they “have to” and not because they truly want to. Not ONE guy I know has gotten married in my church because he actually WANTED to get married, but because he succumbed to the pressure that he HAS to in order to be accepted by the religious community, and to perhaps feel like he’s wanted at church.

I warned a friend of mine who got engaged once and even gave him the whole MGTOW bit, asking him if he truly knew what he was getting himself into. Hell, he had only known the girl for 3 months, now he was engaged, goes to BYU(a Mormon college, for you non-members to know!), he’s only in his second year of college, makes $550 a month at a part-time job, and he is in NO position to be taking on this kind of responsibility when he has too much already on his plate.

He said he knew about MGTOW, liked the whole bit about it, but…”I’m willing to take that risk so I can marry in the temple like my parents want me to.”

6 weeks after the wedding, his new wife, a fellow college student, gets pregnant, and quits going to BYU. After that, I lost all contact with my friend. Perhaps because his wife wanted it that way.

I’m a church member in name only. I haven’t even prayed in God knows how long. I just don’t feel the urge to pray anymore. One ex-member described the Mormon church as “one of the last bastions of good marriages before feminism seeped in around the mid-1990’s and destroyed it.” By the way, go onto an LDS Singles group on Facebook. Those women are CONSTANTLY angry about being single and they bash men repeatedly just because they’re not being “rescued by their prince” fast enough. And they wonder why they can’t find someone to marry them.

Plus, THESE are women from what is supposed to be God’s “true church” and were supposed to be better behaved from the rest of the general population.

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

I know that feeling, MGTOW_85. In some ways, I’m grateful I was raised in Mormonism because it’s made me a lot more responsible than others my age. Actually, going out on my mission was my first MGTOW moment: I realized I was only out there because I had low self-esteem and thought getting would make me happy, and the only way to do that in the church is to go on a mission. I said to myself, “You know what, KingOfTheSea? You’re a damn cool guy, and if a woman can’t see that past the fact you didn’t have a full mission, then she’s not worth your time.” Unfortunately, it took a little longer than that to embrace MGTOW as a whole. I get what you mean, though; going to church as a missionary who came home early was the worst. I think the part that annoys me the most weren’t the people who’d just ignore me or glare at me, but the people who would act like nothing was wrong, but would still treat me like a criminal or something if I needed something or wanted to just talk to them personally.

Actually, I think Mormon girls may be one of the worst in terms of their entitlement and expecting men to do their dirty work. I mean, they’re pretty much taught their whole lives that their man is supposed to work for them while they stay home and run a blog on gluten-free vegan cooking or some s~~~ like that. Someone on another thread said something about how feminism has taught that women can have all the benefits of being a man without any of the responsibilities or obligations of being a man. The funny part is that they all have that pseudo-feminism around them and think they’re being forward thinking because they treat their husbands like the scum of the earth. I don’t know…if I were going to marry someone who was convinced they were going to be a queen one day, I’d bother to make sure they treated me like a king.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Tow-85  Thanks for the incite into LDS church My blue pill brother is hooked up with a girl from that denom. He’s not half the man he used to be in my eyes. He can’t listen to an older brother. I just pray he bails before his sanity bails on him. I  assume Mormon women have that motive operandi   to isolate there men from any influence that may be disruptive of her intentions. She knows I will call her out on her damsel ploys. Last time they were here she tried to give me a chore to do. My response almost had her crying.

I can remember coming back to my hometown and my brother would suggest we go to the local bar for some beer, pool and goon dancing. I want that clown of a kid brother back. Not this pussy whipped guy he is now. Anyways welcome aboard.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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