They're never satisfied

[Bronco164Participant 41]

Hello my fellow male creatures,

Being only 20 years old, I have a fairly small amount of experience in the dating world, however I feel I am mature enough to maintain a stable relationship should the opportunity present itself – at least, this is what I believed before everything happened…

My story starts as my naive, 18 year old virgin self. It was new years day of 2015, and I made my resolution to get laid and lose my v-card. My only goal that whole year was to have sex – not have a relationship and care for some girl, but to just f~~~ them. Oh boy did I change that idea quick…

I met this girl, lets give her an alias “Jasmine”. She was pretty, not super attractive, but enough to satisfy my standards. We got off pretty well, and I was content that she would be the girl to take my virginity (I was right). After flirting for about a month, I somehow managed myself into a situation where she and I were in someone else’s dorm room (who wasn’t there) alone. I think you guys can infer what happened that night.

Anyways, the next day she shoots me a text asking me to bring her food to the library where she was studying. I figured ‘well she did let me have fun last night, the least I could do is bring her a sandwich’. But that was only the beginning. And after about two more months of quasi-dating-like behavior between the two of us (and lots of sex), I realized I was falling for her. And eventually, she fell for me too. Little did I know how detrimental this would be to my life in the future. My first true love – how naive. Now, before you say anything, I have had relationships before – obviously none that got anywhere past a hand job – but I did have a couple!

Being in love for the first time is like trying ecstasy or the first time. It’s a new feeling and a huge rush of excitement, but also a lot of confusion. But the type of confusion where you don’t care that it doesn’t make any sense because it feels so great. And this love lasted for oh, about 4 months before she decided school was more important at the time and said she needed a break. I was understanding at first, but ended up crying in her arms and begging for her back. And since I was also her first love, she didn’t know what the hell she was doing either. She ended up pulling the “I need a break to focus on school” card one more time, and I pulled the same crybaby card to get her back once more as well. Then, she finally just straight up said she needed to only focus on school, and that I’d have to wait several years before we could be together.

Essentially, she was – for the most part – truly trying to only focus on school. Which is why it didn’t hurt as badly since I knew she wasn’t going around fooling with other guys. And I knew this because she was always in the library, from like 7am to 9pm every day only to leave the study room to go to class. She went mad crazy about her education – a very sexy quality. Also, we were still, I guess, friends with benefits. However, and this is the part that irks me: she still wanted me on the backburner.

She expected me to wait on her to be ready. Now, that would’ve been quite the love story – a guy who waits the entirety of college just to marry the girl he first fell in love with – but I felt like there was so much out there to experience rather than waiting several years for one person, which is true. Yet, when I told her I began dating someone else since she didn’t want to be with me currently, she freaked out. She tried to persuade me to get back together with her and she even agreed to be a “couple”. But I was content on dating new girl.

Turns out new girl was a f~~~ing scum bag of a girlfriend who decided she enjoys taking rides on the disco-stick (which by the way wasn’t mine). I didn’t know about this until after she dumped me because we “just weren’t meant to be”. Anyways, I dated her for about 4 months, then I ended up messaging Jasmine that new girl and I broke up, and her entire tone changed. She went from clingy “take me back” ex girlfriend to like she didn’t give a s~~~ about me anymore. I managed to salvage a friendship but I still wanted more. She has assured me that she is still focused on school and does not want anything to do with me romantically.

Okay so lets break this down:

1. Jasmine and I fall in love.
2. Jasmine needs a break *twice*
3. Jasmine decided she needs an even longer, two year+ break.
4. I start dating someone else and she freaks out, becomes clingy and promises me everything I could ever desire.
5. I neglect her and she continues with her pleading and meandering.
6. New bitch and I break up and I tell Jasmine, but she changes her mood towards me.
7. I mention I’d like to get back together and she says that, once again, “school is more important”.

At this point, I did a ton of research on what I could do to change her mind. But after a good friend of mine showed me MGTOW, I was convinced that women simply do not operate on the same functional level as men when it comes to desires in a relationship. You cannot use logic. You cannot convince a woman when she’s wrong – her emotions are a tidal wave that will wash up anything you try to build up. I have come to the conclusion that the wooing of women is just a game of survival of the fittest. Despite our capability of intellectual thought, and our ability to overcome our instinctual habits, it seems the one thing that hasn’t changed and most likely never will change is the way a male and female determine who their mate will be. It is a biased, inherent mechanism that allows it’s host to determine if a male/female is or is not a suitable mate based on an outdated, instinctual algorithm produced by the beginnings of human’s evolutionary stages for procreation.

The saying “love is a game” is true. Especially in today’s world where social media provides us with our instant gratification from egotistical, unnecessary internet posts. The process of wooing a girl to fall in “love” with you is simply a check list a woman requires to mark off one-by-one her false ideological view of what a man should look like, behave like, and what he possesses. There is no such thing as true love that will come from a female. Only survival. She ultimately has the deciding factor in determining if you’re worthy enough for her – as if she is a gold-plated sack of diamonds who deserves only the best.

This is the problem with women and especially women that label themselves as feminists. It does not matter how unattractive or unsuccessful they are – if they believe in the idea of feminism or were raised that girls should have everything handed to them, they put themselves on a pedestal above men. It does not matter their status. A woman who is maybe a 5 will only go for guys who are 8’s. A woman who lives in a run down apartment and who is a barista a Starbucks will only go for wealthy bankers and executives. Now, you do have the occasional outliers who claim to love a guy for him – not his money. But let’s be honest here, that guy probably has a gigantic wang. Which means the chances of finding a woman out there who will love you for *you*, not your money or attractiveness / wang size, and truly means it – that’s damn near nonexistent.

For now, I’ll only be interested in women for their sexual relief they can give us men. Until women realize how ridiculous they are when trying to find “Mr. Right” and change their ways, will I change my mind and reconsider going back into dating.

You get what you put in. Unless, of course, you’re dealing with a narcissist…

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

male creatures?

First of all we are MEN.

You have a lot to learn. But I am glad you are here.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Bronco164Participant 41]

I agree. I am young and do have much to learn but am willing to go through the process of learning. We are MEN. And I’m certain I will not always think the way I think as of right now, but for right now I do have a distaste for the way women behave – and for good reason. Anyways, thanks for the reply.

You get what you put in. Unless, of course, you’re dealing with a narcissist…

[~BSParticipant 3266]

that psycho s~~~ you dealt with “jasmine”? That’s the status quo for women nowadays. Seems like as the decades pass they regress further and further.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I have good news and bad news. The good news is that you had sense enough to find us…the bad news is you were lied to. I bet you dollars to doughnuts she was f~~~ing multiple guys during these breaks—you were her back up guy–nothing more.

You learned a valuable lesson–women are serial liars and you mean nothing to them–at least until they hit the wall then you are a wallet with legs.

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

Because you were wanted, she wanted you, once you were not wanted, she did not want you. That never goes away. If you do not keep s~~~ testing, the relations~~~ dies. Whenever you need to get laid just tell Jasmine you got a new bitch.

Let the good times roll

[Mister StealthParticipant 362]

Welcome to the other side brother. Time to focus on what makes you happy

Steel sharpens steel

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

I got bad news, all women are just a variation of “Jasmine”.
Some better some worst, but I had yet to see a woman that can make married life better then bachelor life.

A woman cannot love you as you love her. Evolution has made her love your utility. The government give her every incentive to follow her instinct instead of rise above them.

If you marry for the sex, married life sex cannot beat bachelor sex life. You can have as many women as your wallet allow as a bachelor and you can always upgrade to a younger model.

A woman cannot hold more interesting conversations then your male friends.

A woman cannot make a better friend then your dog.

A housekeeper is cheaper then a wife / girlfriend.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome young brother . Pussy is like a dangerous dog . You f~~~ pussy . Pussy f~~~s back . I get ya young and want to bang away . Just use protection bro and read these threads . You might pop in here in between pussy and thats cool . We have a few young bro’s here . Actually one of our young bro’s 007 hasn’t been on for a shile so he has probably picked up another trashy little whore and pop back in telling us of how f~~~ed over he has been . Shd was f~~~ing this and then she was sucking this guys dick . We hear it all . You guys are young and full of cum . We are here with advice and stories . Read and take our collective knowledge . Young 007 probably has really f~~~ed up and got a whore pregnant . Can’t wait for him to pop in . It will be real f~~~ing entertaining i am sure .

Welcome to the brother hood

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Welcome @bronco164 and thanks for dropping such an intro!

Bronco164 wrote:

And this love lasted for oh, about 4 months before she decided school was more important at the time and said she needed a break. I was understanding at first, but ended up crying in her arms and begging for her back. And since I was also her first love, she didn’t know what the hell she was doing either. She ended up pulling the “I need a break to focus on school” card one more time, and I pulled the same crybaby card to get her back once more as well. Then, she finally just straight up said she needed to only focus on school, and that I’d have to wait several years before we could be together.

I admit that paragraph was cringeworthy and difficult to read. It physcially hurt me in my b~~~~. No reflection on you of course.

But this is when you maintain.
–>> ONE CHANCE. PER CHICK. PER LIFETIME. NO EXCEPTIONS.

It’s OK to be vulnerable and show your interest, affection, and willingness to love someone else… but if she doesn’t want it, another woman WILL. Three times is way too overkill.

Bronco164 wrote:

Yet, when I told her I began dating someone else since she didn’t want to be with me currently, she freaked out

Well that’s just about as goddam predictable as it gets.

She previously had no respect for you. You laid yourself down for her – three times when just 1 is enough – which is like telling her you have no other options. But the second she sees you have other options…. she’s now interested in competing with other women for you. It’s the way they are.

Do you see how this has very little to do with YOU?

So…. since she will now come running after you simply because you have more options, then you have learned her approval is as worthless as her disapproval. And vice versa.

( Q.E.D She didn’t reject “you”. )

Bronco164 wrote:

Okay so lets break this down:

1. Jasmine and I fall in love.
2. Jasmine needs a break *twice*
3. Jasmine decided she needs an even longer, two year+ break.
4. I start dating someone else and she freaks out, becomes clingy and promises me everything I could ever desire.
5. I neglect her and she continues with her pleading and meandering.
6. New bitch and I break up and I tell Jasmine, but she changes her mood towards me.
7. I mention I’d like to get back together and she says that, once again, “school is more important”.

Yes.

Note 6 + 7. In the same way you don’t want to be her second choice, she doesn’t either.

You don’t come across like you’re only 20 (more like +36) because of your fluency on “feminism” which I was oblivious to at that time. But at 20, you don’t need to concern yourself with being any woman’s “Mr. Right”.

Instead of becoming the man she wants…
be the man YOU always wanted to BE.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

BlakeGuy wrote:

Because you were wanted, she wanted you, once you were not wanted, she did not want you. That never goes away.

Keymaster wrote:

But the second she sees you have other options…. she’s now interested in competing with other women for you. It’s the way they are.

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Pay very close attention to the above, young man.

Women make their attraction decisions based on “social proofing” [e.g. if other women find him attractive, I, too, find him attractive.], on emotional roulette [binge / purge cycles], and on which side of the litter box their kitty took a dump on alternate, odd numbered Tuesdays [completely random].

This means your attractiveness to women is not your responsibility. It also means that you have as much of a chance of getting laid by a 10 as you do getting rejected by a 2. In other words, no woman is “out of your league.”

A woman’s acceptance and her rejection are both temporary and, therefore, equally worthless.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Anonymous 0]

Bronco164 wrote:

I was convinced that women simply do not operate on the same functional level as men when it comes to desires in a relationship. You cannot use logic.

ding, ding, ding, ding…”What do we have for him Chuck? Oh, it’s a NEW CAR, paid for with all the money he saved from learning about women at this young age”.

Seriously though, great intro. Your intro plus all the wise MGTOW responses will make a great read for many guys to read. You may have actually saved lives here.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Bronco
Beer’s in the fridge
Great intro!
Looking forward to hearing from you.

[Bronco164Participant 41]

My 21st will be in a few days, but I’m already crackin open a corona!

By the way, I like the bike. What is it? Honda Shadow?

You get what you put in. Unless, of course, you’re dealing with a narcissist…

[Y_Participant 4591]

PistolPete wrote:

You learned a valuable lesson–women are serial liars and you mean nothing to them–at least until they hit the wall then you are a wallet with legs.

Young man-creature. (yuk yuk).
My good bro PP nailed it for you. The only winning option is not to play.

If you stay as a MGHOW it will be the hardest thing you will ever do – and the most rewarding beyond anything you could possibly expect. Why?

Real freedom is not for everyone. It must be bought and paid for with your life. For most men this price is too high.

You are young yet but you will get to know what I’m talking about.
I hope you make it. Peace and welcome.

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