There is no win

[GeraldParticipant 3620]

Men, early on we are taught to win. To compete, on a fair field and win, give it all, and win.

In a relationship we often (at least I do) try to win. We try to be the most valuable, the most successful, the best for our partner.

Let me tell you men.

There is no win.

There is a minimal upside to any relationship that I have been in, and thus no win. There is no victory celebration.

There is no win. Only the pain that comes from trying with no hope of success.

Go your own way. Avoid the trap, avoid the loss, don’t play the game.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

EVERY relationship is Temporary.

Every Relationship Ends, and normally ends Badly !!

After the first couple/few; Why bother with ANOTHER ??

Some men LEARN….

Unfortunately, MANY DON”T, and the pattern is REPEATED throughout LIFE !!

Nothing SADDER then a Man that has SURVIVED Divorce, and WILLINGLY JUMPS back into the Marital FIRE !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Gerald wrote:

We try to be the most valuable, the most successful, the best for our partner.

The more you do this…

Gerald wrote:

There is a minimal upside to any relationship that I have been in, and thus no win.

The more this becomes true. Not only is there minimal upside but the more successful/hard working/wealthy you are, not only does it decrease the upside of marriage, but it increases the downside.

Awakened wrote:

After the first couple/few; Why bother with ANOTHER ??

Very true. I learned this lesson in life. The most I ever wanted a girlfriend was when I was a teenager before I ever had a girlfriend. After I dated a fair amount of girls and had a few relations~~~s its just like meh…not worth the effort.

Dating and relations~~~s are a lot like stepping on a rake. Yeah I could put effort into going to the hardware store, buying a rake, bringing it home, putting it down upside down on to a flat, hard surface, then stepping on it just to smash myself in the head and think why the f~~~ would I do that…that was stupid…or I could not put effort into dating/stepping on a rake and not be left thinking why the f~~~ did I do that, that was stupid afterwards.

[Rolling Tin FistParticipant 484]

Awakened wrote:

Nothing SADDER then a Man that has SURVIVED Divorce, and WILLINGLY JUMPS back into the Marital FIRE !!

I had a friend that did this a few years back. Baby on the way with the new wife. One of the nicest guys I know and a fantastic dad. His ex was so fcuked up that he got kids pretty easily. Ex would leave kids when they were toddlers, home alone, to do coke and her ex.

The problem with having too much of a downside is that everything different can have the illusion of an upside, when in reality it only less sucky.

I really hope his new lady is a ? but I know those don’t exist.

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken

[ChangedParticipant 588]

All women know is to manipulate men to fight against each other, the only one who wins is the one who does not fight.

OMG guys, you really didint watch too much of YouTube videos from Turd Flinging Monkey ?

There is also a published paper (or video) about some female apes species who manipulate the male apes to get into fights, you gotta find that it will change your life.

Matriarchy taxes us. Patriarchy taxes us. No Fucks Given! If they give us pains, lets give them pains. Daily.

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