There is a very horrible epidemic that is amongst us

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

And it might not even be yours.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

We all know that women want a free ride and they know that getting a guy to knock them up or otherwise force him to take responsibility for her is a major win for them.

It’s so common and obvious that it’s not even worth discussing. The solution is simple:

1) Accept that this is the way of the world.
2) Get a vasectomy to make sure you never get a woman pregnant.
3) Never touch or allow yourself to be alone a single mother.
4) Never spend time, effort or money on children that aren’t your own.

Worst case scenario, and I’m borrowing this one from Doug Stanhope, tell any woman who really pushes the topic of
kids that you’re “on a list”.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Stargazer wrote:

“on a list”.

That’s genius.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Its going to get worse because Vasalgel is coming,these slut tricks wont work because men will control their reproductive destiny.If men can get our sperm exits under control its a major game changer and now you are forced to think with the real head and not the lizard.Injections will last up to year so relax dont get married. feminist can try all this toxic take over men crap all they want but once men start to move on one accord its game over c~~~!!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

I wonder what percentage of men married as the c~~~ got pregnant on purpose ?

[Anonymous 5]

25 million scheming C~~~S!

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Enjoy The Decline wrote:

The point of all of this is that this sort of sick sh*t is more common than we all think. Your whole life is like a big land mine area that you have to cross. Why even play the game of courting a girl at all?? Your thoughts?

The asnwer is simple, you don’t.
If i have the choice i wont even talk to any of those evil c~~~s again.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

25 million scheming C~~~S!

They’ve GOT to scheme… otherwise they’d have to work to support themselves and women HATE working. They know they can get men to pay their way, it’s just a matter of picking the right man and using the right scheme.

And men continue to fall for it.

But they’ve sewn the seeds of their own undoing by making sex cheaper and easier to get than ever before and being blatantly grasping and disloyal. Men are waking up and it won’t be long before no self respecting man is willing to fund a parasitic woman any more.

So don’t waste your time hating them for what they are… they know what they are and they already hate themselves and each other more than we ever could.

[treznik87Participant 570]

Total Lee wrote:

This topic p~~~es me off to no end but men need to know it. The women who act like they want to have babies with you are your enemy. Your wife, your girlfriend it doesn’t matter. What you want means nothing to them and she hates you enough to tell everyone else, her mother and girlfriends, women she never met, strangers on the internet, but not you.

The man she lives with is the last person to know about her scheme.

THIS is exactly what happened to me. Everyone knew BUT ME. She easily revealed her plan the day she dumped me, but not before. And from her words I knew that this s~~~ was in her mind for quite some time but when I confronted her before -that I feel something is not like it used to be, she denied it: ‘I havent noticed that’. But 2 months later when she dumped me she said we have crisis for the last 6 months!¨

She quietly resented me for not reading her mind and suggested to move in with me after 1 year of relationS~~~. At the same time she was doing her best to avoid sex with me (up to several weeks in a row) and I was no where near her priority list. And i should made that suggestion BECAUSE she is gonna be 30 soon so its about time right?!
F~~~ YOU!
One time she was drunk she even said that she will have a child soon and its gonna be with me or someone else… Yes, she really loved me. BITCH.

I know for a fact (she told me she was talking about it with friends and parents) about it, BUT WHY NOT ME!!!! WTF! I cant even… it still makes me MAD as f~~~. Whats wrong with me for not reading her mind and make her my whole word when i was nothing but a tool to her? i still regret it. To not dump her first… but she was my 1st serious gf so… I wont be that hard on my self anymore. even when you are completely BLUE your body is telling you something is not right. The gut is trying to tell you get the f~~~ away… only if I listened… well the end result is the same – she is gone from my life and she wont have my baby… Someone else will be very lucky.

[narwhalParticipant]

Taking the whole ‘trick’ part of the equation, I do believe she means exactly what she says, except what she means by that isn’t what you think it means. That’s exactly how she feels right now. As has been said many times, you should always add right now whenever a woman talks about how she feels or what she will do in the future. Yes, even when talking about the future, she means right now . She feels like she won’t even ask for child support. That’s how she feels. The “won’t even ask for CS” part of that sentence is just an adverb to emphasize how strongly she feels about it.

Commitments mean virtually nothing to women. Commitments disregard feelings and that just can’t happen. Commitments need to be dropped when you they stopped getting you what you want. Commitments don’t take into account that the situation can change, her feelings change, or that she was just too ignorant at the time she made a commitment. All things that she cannot be help responsible for.

Aside….I could be wrong about this but it seems that if you ask a woman why she married a guy and is now divorcing, she will tell you how she felt about him back then. If you ask a guy the same question, he will tell you he thought she was.

Ok. Then do it.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

treznik87 wrote:

I know for a fact (she told me she was talking about it with friends and parents) about it, BUT WHY NOT ME!!!!

Like Lee said, you were the enemy. You don’t discuss your plan of attack with the enemy, only with the allies. If getting married, settling down, buying a house and starting a family was something that she wanted to do from a place of love, you would have been the first to know, as a necessary ally in that campaign.

But the reality is that all those things do not serve your relationship together in her mind, but rather serve her individual wants and desires. Even if you would have agreed to them she still does them out of her own selfishness. So to achieve them, she has to deceive you.

Women believe in their hearts that men do not want to be in love, have a home, find and hold onto a loyal wife and have children… so they learn how to entrap us into doing those things not because they’re good and right but simply because they can. And sixty years after Frank Sinatra told us about it, men continue to fall into that “tender trap”.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Stargazer wrote:

Women believe in their hearts that men do not want to be in love, have a home, find and hold onto a loyal wife and have children… so they learn how to entrap us into doing those things not because they’re good and right but simply because they can.

Sir…I couldn’t agree more with this. I’ve had girlfriends in the past that I flat out told early on in the relationship I’d like to get married and have kids…I mean…not with them at this very moment…but in general…it was on my radar to get married and have kids. What do they do? You think they’d play it cool for a while knowing they found a guy interesting in settling down and having a family, just go with the flow for a bit…let things progress, make sure I’m actually taking steps to make them a bigger part of my life and a higher priority, bring it up periodically in conversation to get a better idea about what I want and my timeline for things and how it aligns with hers so we could compromise to accommodate each other…but no…they go all bats~~~ crazy like its still a big giant game and they have to manipulate you to do exactly what they have planned for you.

I even fully understand everyone has their different timeline in life…which is what really bugged me with women like this. They don’t care what yours is. Its not like they’ll ever say early on I want kids in the next 3 years, let me know right now if you don’t I’ll go find someone that does, they’ll just use you to spend money on them and for sex while they are monkey branching to the next guy if their date is years down the road, or if their date is close they’ll just have a whoops baby. Either way, they just move along with their own plans and their agenda they have planned out for you, and she’ll be more than happy to blab about her plans with anyone other than you…the person she should be talking about it with. Once you become aware of this, you realize you aren’t a person to them…you are just a tool to give them what they want, and at any time they can easily discard you or lock you in their toolbox where you’ll remain trapped for 18 years and 9 months.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Beer wrote:

Once you become aware of this, you realize you aren’t a person to them… you are just a tool to give them what they want, and at any time they can easily discard you or lock you in their toolbox

Precisely.

I found myself at this point when I was engaged a few years back. Once I had proposed marriage, I thought I was embarking on a partnership where life plans and relationship goals would be discussed between us first but it was exactly the opposite. In the span of less than two weeks, the small private ceremony we had been talking about became some bloated circus that she was clearly planning with everyone BUT me.

I was close to the edge when it started but hearing that we were going to have to fly to another country for a second ceremony so that her grandparents could attend was just too much and I broke it off.

I bet she hadn’t planned on that!

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