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    Penumbra
    Penumbra
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    So this is my road to MGTOW. I will tell it from different perspectives, according to how I viewed the world at that time. So let me tell you why I now think the about the same about women as I did when I was ten years old. Let’s go!

    In my childhood years, when I was between 8 and 12 years old, I didn’t care for girls at all. Boys were always the fun ones to be around and together we did all the crazy things. The girls just stood by the side and watched. It was quite clear to me that I didn’t have any interests in common with the girls. Some of the other boys were apparently considered popular and they were made into “boyfriends”. What a 10 year old girl could possibly have that interests a 10 year old boy was as unknown to me then – as it is to this day. But I had video games to play – so I did – and life went on.

    Later, when I became a teenager, I started to get interested in girls. I previously tried to get a girl in my class but I dragged the whole thing out and failed miserably. I had no idea what I was doing until one day I stumbled upon some PUA material online. It was not exactly PUA stuff because it focused more getting a better “inner game”, to be more confident and to take things with girls to “the next level”. I didn’t care for the manipulative “getting-the-girl-at-the-club-tricks”.
    I was skeptical at first but I thought “Hey, let’s try it at least!” so I started to read and listen to audiobooks at mornings, nights and even during work time. I was determined to succeed where I had previously failed with my first crush!

    Imagine my surprise when it actually started to work! With my newly adapted mindset I was flirtier and frankly, more arrogant than before. I got much more attention and results from girls around me… and I quickly got my first girlfriend. Now, I know that getting a girlfriend at the age of 16 isn’t the most impressive feat of all time – but for the first time in my life I had pursued something I genuinely wanted and through hard work on myself, I had got it. But things were about to change.

    Things were going fine for about three months until she started to become uninteresting. It actually felt like she was starting to “settle down” and I became f~~~ing scared and ended it right there. I started going after other girls but I never got into a relationship with any of them. Some of them I got into bed with, some not. But then I realized something. I realized that all the confidence and the good feelings were just a part of me. Girls had no part in it anymore because I had proven to myself that I was no longer a virgin and that I too can get a girlfriend. Chasing or “fishing” for women did not make me a happier person. Now what? And what was the point of having a relationship, when I could find a sexier and sluttier girl in the wondrous world of Pornhub?

    When I and my friends became 18 the whole going to the bar craze started in our circle. This was honestly the most overrated thing I had ever encountered and I still consider it as such. At this point I tell you that I live in Finland. Some of you may know that Finnish people are very shy and not talkative at all to strangers. Combine this fact with the passive, entitled, doesn’t-contribute-s~~~ attitude of today’s young women. And imagine this playing out at a bar or club, where women are literary considered to be of more worth than men. Who in their right minds would ever want to pursue women in these kinds of places? And so, the curtain started to fall.

    Now, the more I read and the more I look around me the less appealing women start to look. One example that comes to mind; I have for several years arranged summer parties at my summer house in the archipelago. It is always the men who end up paying for the fuel cost of driving the group there, doing the woodwork to keep the sauna going and even making the food. The women have not even been fun or engaging guests. Non-social and always checking their phones if anyone “more interesting” has posted anything on social media. F~~~ that s~~~.

    There are two people that I have considered my best friends that have gotten girlfriends and later not been “allowed” to hang out with me anymore. Girls that clearly are paranoid, manipulative and selfish. And they straight up lie so that their boyfriend doesn’t get any “bad influences” from me. But what can you really do when your friends don’t listen to your advice and arguments because they are blinded by pussy and think you yourself are just jealous. Their whole world revolves around women.
    It’s really horrible to see a good friend go down this way.

    Dating is now officially off the table and marriage was never there to begin with. I will continue with the self-teaching and self-improving that I did in my “PUA-days” but from now on I will do it for my own sake and happiness since women are not worth engaging with. Too many problems can (and do) arise and the payoff is laughable. Society itself seems so have lost all its common sense. Feelings have replaced rational thought. This year I found MGTOW accidentally on YouTube. But it resonated with me instantly and I soon found this amazing site.
    You guys put into words that what gnaws in the backs of men their whole lifetimes. Thank you.

    It has been a 15 year long road, consisting of putting small pieces together, but now I have arrived to the conclusion I knew right from the start. What could a woman possibly have that interests a man?

    Every man dies. Not every man lives.

    #165674
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    Dark Kenshi
    Dark Kenshi
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    Welcome back to the Shire, Bilbo (Penumbra)!

    We’ve been waiting for you! Now, grab a seat, share some stories with us, we have some travel pipes that we would like to share with you, while we talk, eat, drink, and share our notes.

    For the night is long, and the darkness is thick, but light never fades in our Shire.

    Welcome aboard!

    And no, they don’t have anything to offer that you can’t get or do by yourself.

    All that they have up to now (and will not have anymore in a few years) is the power of the womb and the vagina. Besides that, they are worthless!

    Keep focusing on your stuff! This will lead you somewhere, to the place where you want to be, because being able to DECIDE what to do with your life and with your time (and everything that goes along these two things), are the true freedom.

    Enjoy it! Your life is back in your hands now, and you can decide what to do with it!

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

    #165697
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    K
    Hitman
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    welcome brother , great intro ! ..enjoy !

    #165701
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    Anonymous
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    Hei Penumbra.
    Seems like you have your head set on your shoulders correctly.
    I’m judging from your story that you have avoided a lot of s~~~ that today’s women deal out
    and at the same time learned a lot about them. That is a good thing.

    Now that you have found MGTOW, it will broaden your knowledge even more on female
    nature and their bulls~~~.
    Welcome.

    #165719
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    Anonymous
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    Welcome Brother
    Brilliant intro, Penumbra. You write well.
    We have a lot of fun here and we are not all woman haters as the Feminazi would have people believe; a lot of us have been divorce raped and just don’t trust them.
    Read, Post. Learn. What one man shares another learns.

    #165724
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    Wally
    Wally
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    Welcome and excellent introduction! I remember several months ago being in a room with 25 other guys at a church and I was the only single man in the room and we were having a discussion about women and marriage. It was an eye opener and while the discussion was open and honest( sex was almost non existent for them) I couldn’t help but notice each and every single one of them had that look of “why the hell did I get married?” Go thy own way.

    "what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

    #165946
    RoyDal
    RoyDal
    Participant

    Welcome!

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #166011
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    Anonymous
    42

    Society itself seems so have lost all its common sense. Feelings have replaced rational thought.

    Hey Penumbra, Feminism-in-a-nutsHell ^^^^^^^

    To put it bluntly, The prognosis women have determined for men over the past 50+ years; Boys are broken girls, and more important, “men are broken women”, but we know that’s not true!
    The FACTS DICTATE that Girls are broken girls, and women are broken women, and MGTOW is the only way to navigate this sea of lies….

    #166026
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    MattNYC
    MattNYC
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    Hey Penumbra – glad you shared your intro & welcome!

    Two things really struck me about what you said, both related:

    Chasing or “fishing” for women did not make me a happier person. Now what?

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    What could a woman possibly have that interests a man?

    It seems strange that we’ve conditioned so much to have our own end-all-be-all to get a girlfriend/wife or whatever, like that’s the “endgame” of a man’s life. F~~~ that – live for yourself.

    Welcome!!

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