The wheel has turned now in my favor :)

[Anonymous 5]

Good morning fellow MGTOWS , its been an exciting last 4 months. I was at a friends house when out of the blue I recieved a text, at first I ignored it but then decided to give it a look. When I realized who it was from I about hit the ceiling.

My daughter, after 19 years of not a single word contacted me. The message was brief but stated she had been trying for 4 years to get ahold of me through another means. I checked and sure enough there was her e-mail.

We now have a very good relationship, we communicate every day in one way or another, we talk in person at least once a week.

The very same week she contacted me I went to see her. She lives much closer than she had before. 400 miles versus 2000.

During our conversations she has relayed how her mother and grandmother had been saying for years how nasty and bad a man I was , that is until her mother had a brain stem stroke. Then the ex changed her tone and tune about me. Told her that “he’s not and never was a bad man”. A close brush with death has a way of making motality a bit more real for someone who has lied for most of their adult life.

My daughter said this to me” Dad what mom was saying about you just didnt fit”. I had to ask my daughter if she remembered me doing anything that her mother had accused me of doing. Her response was an immediate “no”!!! I had to ask that question because my ex had been telling my family members that I had molested my little girl. Of which had never taken place.

My daughter then added “Dad what I remember about you is your smile”. I knew my ex was sick in her mind , that was the only thing that couldv’e possibly been.

A few years ago she had been diagnosed with clinical depression, malignant hypertension, obesity, diabetes and probably many more dibilitating things, mentaly and physically.

I had to get the truth to my daughter about the many lies she had been told, one of them being that “he never paid one cent of child support ” it was then that I handed my daughter a printout from the child support agency showing all the money I had paid , even durring the time that statement was made by my ex’s lawyer in court. I made sure that the law firm who handled her case had a copy of that same printout. I hand delivered that. Come to find out that the lawyer had died.

I then presented my daughter with all of the restraining orders her mother had filed against me, and that even though she was 2000 miles away they came like clock work. Those restraining orders prevented me from sending gifts, cards, birthday presents, letters, phone calls, it specifically stated “No Contact”.

This was not an easy thing to do because when i gave my son this information he never responded and went into hiding believeing that I was this monster of a lying father. I guess sometimes the truth is a bitter pill to swallow, especially if it destroys the narrative and reasons one holds onto a grudge. I was afraid my daughter would likewise do as my son, but she hasn’t. She knows and has known the truth about her mother for a very long time. I left thinking that there would be no more problems because it was always said that I was the reason for my ex’s bad attitudes and behaviors. So i thought she would never do to the children what she did to me.

But as her deep seated mental problems were all hers, my leaving didnt change anything with this one exception , life for my children got a hell of a lot worse for them. And the ex made it a point to be just that way.

My daughter told me about an incident between her mother and her grandmother. She was returning home from school and when she got to her home she heard yelling and screaming betwen her mother and grandmother. when she got inside the door she saw her grandmother on the floor with a bloodied nose. my daughter then saw my son come in the home grab a kitchen knife and threatened to kill his mother with that knife. So the dysfunction continued even after I was done and gone. My daughter now has no contact with her mother who lives in a convelesent home, she has no possesions to speak of and no home. The ex estranged from her mother, son, daughter, and also her brother.

Karma is a bitch. I am a grandfather also of a one year old boy.

Alot has happened to my daughter that she has had to stuff all of her emotions down about me. she told me how she would yell scream and cry for her “Daddy” she wanted to see me but her mother refused to allow any type of visitation, no calling, nothing. And this went on for years. When I showed my daughter that she had been named in the restraining orders after she became of age , she was p~~~ed off to no end.

I explained everything to her and left nothing unexposed. Took a big risk in doing just that afraid that she might turn and run away if i had said something extremely offensive against her mother.

But instead of running, the things i have told her only confirmed what she knew already and that is that her mother was and is bats~~~ crazy.

I told my daughter that I wasnt perfect and i had my issues, but my responses to her mother was reactive and self preservation. I know what made the difference in my daughters life was this one thing I did before I left her mother. I left when my daughter was old enough to understand that I really loved her, I showed her I did, I stood up to her mother when her mother was abusive to her in my daughters presence.

I knew that her mother had shoved the wedge between our relationship and tried to excise my daughter out of my life. I had hoped that my kids would come around sometime in my life to get the answers they needed. Unfortunately both of my children were and are the victims of their mothers mental illnesses. My son i believe feels a great deal of guilt over certain situations that took place. But i hold him no harm , just like my daughter , he is not responsible for the excision his mother did, and the means by which she chose to do just that. Now its time to love on my baby girl into a healthy place within her mind and person. And hopefully my son will come round so I can also give to him the same kind of healing in his relationship with me. But as far as his relationship with his mother well I am going to let him and my daughter figure that out.

My fellow MGTOW brothers who have been put through the custody wringer with your children. Dont ever give up on them, they need you, they want to understand you and love and be loved by you.

But hopefully it will not take as long as it did for my child to come to you for your love.

Sure it p~~~es me off that I have missed soo much of my daughters life, but now the restraining orders are of no use , even though one is still in effect until next year. I dont believe there will be anymore and when that day comes and goes. I will no longer have my civil rights stomped upon. !!

I have my daughter back in my life, I am now halfways healed inside. All I need now is for my son to extend his olive branch and come and listen to truth. There is nothing he need to ask forgiveness for, it wasnt his fault for what his mother did !!!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Winning.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Top gun post. Integrity and patience = peace and health.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Thank you for sharing this this awesome news. Hopefully it will provide encouragement and strength to others who have/are experiencing similar things.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

🤔

Did I understood this?

Your daughter has a kid? Is she married? Is she working?
Who is the father?

I don’t wanna be a disconsiderated monster… BUT I AM, I TRUST NO ONE.

Im happy for you if things are ok. But my alien in me tell me not to trust any female.

Be careful brother. I hope at least I planted a seed of doubt on you.

I might be a monster, but at least I got my six covered.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 7]

The world turns in mysterious ways.

This is great news to hear, and I hope some peace has finally come into your life.

All the best to you!

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Mr. Spock wrote:

Thank you for sharing this this awesome news. Hopefully it will provide encouragement and strength to others who have/are experiencing similar things.

Amen. Most sheeple believe the poor single mom / deadbeat dad narrative is correct 99.9% of the time. But then you come here and you hear some version of that story over and over and over again. I start to wonder if it isn’t 99.9% mom is a lying whore who took advantage of every legal avenue possible to extract the father from HER children’s lives.

Thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully your daughter will talk to your son and let him know that you aren’t the monster their mother made you out to be.

Order the good wine

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

WOW nevets61, I thank you for that post, GULP!

I would have felt so sad for you having read it, and what and your children have been through, but I can only feel GENUINE JOY for you now.

I hope and kinda suspect your Son, will come around.

Its nice to hear a good ending, for a change, well done and ENJOY your new found family around you.

NOW YOU THE MAN!!

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

nevets61… epic post and phenomenal ending. Thanks for taking the time to share a little of the light you found at the end of the tunnel. We need more to hear more experiences like that. I expect to hear more tales like this emerge from the fray as the society that has been woven by the feminist movement begins to collapse in on itself, and grand truths start to reveal themselves.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[Anonymous 43]

im crying. happy for you. you give me hope for a renewed relationship with my kids. c~~~s lies don’t fit is what will save me. thank you brother for sharing

your ex and my c~~~ will share a seat on the bus to hell, we both paid the fare

[Anonymous 1]

Man, I can’t hardly come up with words to respond. I’m glad to hear you have an opportunity for reconciliation with your daughter. Some of the Men’s stories on this site are just incredible; it’s humbling in many ways, I’ve gotten off incredibly easy in comparison.

I’m happy for you.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

I’m glad for your win. I hope your son comes around maybe his sister will convince him you’re ok.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 1]

This is a wonderful story, thanks for sharing it.

I’m so glad you and your daughter have found peace.

Baring it all must have been hard – but you did the right thing, imho.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

I’m happy for you Netvets 61, but let me ask you this, couldn’t you she was nuts before you married her?

[2icebittenParticipant 147]

Great story, congratulations. Fantastic that your daughter was open minded enough to see the truth. I wish there were better laws protecting individuals against false accusations. Being denied your own family and guilty until proven innocent. Worst fears come true. What a true P.O.S. your ex is. Karma…. may she have a long life in her current condition.
Did you have to do prison time because of the false accusations?

My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor, and some style. - Maya Angelou

[MonkParticipant 16975]

Anonymous wrote:

My daughter said this to me” Dad what mom was saying about you just didnt fit”. I had to ask my daughter if she remembered me doing anything that her mother had accused me of doing. Her response was an immediate “no”!!! I had to ask that question because my ex had been telling my family members that I had molested my little girl. Of which had never taken place.

It’s not over yet. Your ex (and perhaps even your deluded son), may still pursue you with these allegations.

See if you can get your daughter to make a formal legal statement that the abuse allegations were lies.

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

That’s an awesome thing to hear Nevets! I grew up hearing terrible things about my father from my mom. Things I found out later were not true. Turns out *she* was the bad one! He was working 3 jobs to make ends meet. She was throwing away the bills before he saw them, spending like crazy. All kinds of BPD craziness out of my mother. Found out later it was all lies. Stopped talking to her…didn’t talk to her for over 30 years. She died recently, I didn’t even go to funeral. My father died long ago, in ’76. Never got to really get to know him. She stole that from both of us. If there is a Hell, I hope she is there. Good luck with your daughter Bro!

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[bullfincheParticipant 1]

Thanks for this. I’m going through a battle with my ex now. My daughter is 9 and it sucks that she is in the crosshairs of this battle, but I’m fighting her mother with everything I have and then some.

Education begins the gentleman, but reading, travel, good company and reflection must finish him. -Locke

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Wow what a story. Very encouraging. I wish you well brother! Glad that you have your daughter back.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Anonymous 5]

Hello Carnage 🙂
It has been quite a few months that I have gotten to spend with my daughter, and yes she has a son. And that situation was the results of another man. Who is out of her life now with the exception of shared custody and support.
I hear your concerns and am very aware of them , and we would not be wise if we didnt have them , right?
As far as the allegations they never went into the court system and i was never charged , and also the one time my ex took my little girl to the hospital hoping to find something. The doctor told her that there was no evidence of any wrong doing. If my little girl had said that she remembered that i had done something I would be alarmed to say the least. But i gave my ex a very firm warning and it went exactly like this ” if you accuse me of doing somwething I havent done, and I go to jail for it, if I survive jail time and i get out , I will come and kill you”. And i was serious !!!!
My daughter hasnt asked me for anything, and as her father well if anything happens to me she gets everything anyways lol. I’m not to worried about that. the important thing for me to know is that I know what happened and what didnt happened. And so does my little girl. I dont think she would want to spend the rest of her life feeling guilty about what would happen if a lie she told put her Dad in jail. She is very up front and honest. And if she wanted something from me, I would give it to her , that is within reason, and I have no problem calling her out on the carpet if needs be.
She made this comment to me, “Dad I know I had better respect you, because if i dont youll put a boot in my ass”. I chuckled inside , but thats the truth. Weather figuratively or not I would.

Carnage dont worry about being what, or who you are. I appreciate the reality of things, and even the raw things. So i thank you for that!!!!!

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