The Wedding Vow (Are You Serious?)

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

“I ________, take you ________, to be my wedded husband/wife. To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness or in health, to love and to cherish ’till death do us part. And hereto I pledge you my faithfulness.”

Well, this sounds very sweet and sincere when two people look each other in the eyes, smile, and repeat this vow in a public ceremony (a ceremony that mostly entertains women), but what do these words really mean?

Traditionally, marriage is a lifetime commitment. After a man has dated several women, he chooses his favorite one (hopefully she’s loyal to him as well as physically attractive) and decides to be faithful to her. That means he will only have sex with her and she will only have sex with him—-for the rest of their lives. And they will live together and maintain their relationship until they die. Now that’s a serious commitment! The problem with this scenario is: we (those of us who live in socially liberated societies and are accustomed to getting what we want) are generally too selfish to make such a lifetime commitment.

“For better, for worse:” It’s easy to stay bonded with a spouse if things are going great with your lives, but what if some unexpected events happen to make your lives worse? Stuff happens in life: people lose their jobs, they have financial problems, they have health problems, their sexual libido decreases, they get old and cranky, their kids drive them crazy, their relatives drive them crazy, or they just get tired of dealing with each other’s personalities on a daily basis. Whatever the reason: they made a vow to stay together no matter what. In order to have this kind of commitment, a married couple has to have some strong character traits. And there has to be something special about the wife/husband that would make each individual willing to walk through the valley of the shadow of death to maintain their relationship with each other.

I think we live in an age of “Hollywood Marriages.” These are the kind of marriages that are based on the good times people experience when they’re dating without the consideration of personality and lifestyle compatibility. The couple is in it for the good times, but as soon as the party is over (and real life happens), they quit.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Both parties have to work at maintaining a relationship. The problem is women of today are taught that everything will be given to them, and that a relationship is the man’s job to maintain by keeping the woman happy. When in truth for a relationship to endure both parties have work to maintain it. And I am not just talking about sex.

When the relationship begins to fall apart the woman blames the man and leaves the man.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FunInTheSun wrote:

what do these words really mean?

When a woman says it… nothing. When a man says it, he knows he’s got a s~~~ load to loose if he makes a bad choice here. A woman can make a TERRIBLE choice in husband, behave like a complete bitch, deny sex and affection and collect a pay out for being a s~~~ty wife.

No husband collected $5 for that.

FunInTheSun wrote:

The couple is in it for the good times, but as soon as the party is over (and real life happens), they quit.

About 30 years ago , a huge cultural novel and film “When Harry Met Sally” featured a scene where 3 women sit around at lunch. Very “SexandtheCity”. One of them says “at least you can say you were married”….. which really encapsulates the general female attitude on this.

“At least you can say you were married”.

Which says “even if you make a totally wrong choice, do it before your window of opportunity closes so you can AT LEAST SAY you had a wedding once“. An indicator of nothing of any real value.

Women have asked me “why are you not married?”
To which I reply “I don’t believe in divorce”.

Takes a while for her brain to process that one… but it’s a great response because they don’t react favorably to it. They are actually irritated by it. And WHY? Because it means she would have to STAY married if I am going to even consider talking about it.

The woman who doesn’t like that response is not looking to STAY married. She’s just looking to GET married… just so “she can say she was married”.

Saying “I don’t believe in divorce” rips that out of her head, grabs the imaginary bouquet out of her hands, and stomps on it…. completely destroying her idea that all she needs to do is have a wedding and then begin plotting her divorce for a payout.

It’s like saying “I WILL NEVER PAY YOU TO F~~~ OFF AND BE A S~~~TY WIFE SO FIND ANOTHER SUCKER.”

If a woman doesn’t react POSITIVELY to the statement “I don’t believe in divorce” run for the goddam hills as fast as you can away from her. Her vows will never mean jack s~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I is a sham contract between her, the government … and you.

You are marring her AND THE STATE.

Not only that but you are giving up YOUR rights and YOUR rights to be father to any kids.

It’s like going in to partnership with two other business people and signing a contract that says … if we go bust I will pay for the debts and legal fees while you two go on holiday …. that I’ll pay for.

WOULD YOU SIGN IT?

You would if you were female or government.

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

F~~~ marriage. I hate weddings but alas, still get invited to them. Aside from the pavlova and , they are a waste of a perfectly good Saturday. I just wish the vows were more realistic, like “I promise to love and be with you until we get sick of each other” –

#ManOut

[experiencedParticipant]

In my mind:
A Steven King type set-up.
“Ok, if you really want to get married we go to some severe foreign country and behind the walls of a severe mafia type building, both sign that whoever initiates a divorce will be _________________________________________________ severely.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Keymaster wrote:

Women have asked me “why are you not married?”
To which I reply “I don’t believe in divorce”.

BOOM! Headshot! 😀

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Women think that love is a feeling, but in reality it’s a choice, and one you make every day. When a person says they fell out of love, they stopped choosing to love the other person. Sometimes you make a bad choice on who to love and you SHOULD stop, but women don’t understand that and start making the relationship all about them and then get p~~~ed when you actually want to matter a little bit. So they FALL out of love, and then wonder what happened. If you’re reading girls, what happened was you were selfish and stopping caring about the guy.

I chose to keep loving my ex far after she chose to stop loving me. Why? Well, because I was an idiot, for my kids, because I thought as they got older I’d become more of a priority again, because vagina, because I made a commitment and my word means everything.

And what did that get me? A bitter ex who blames everything on me, less time with my kids, being torn apart financially. Today she will cash her alimony check and then bitch that it’s not enough. F~~~ her.

And women wonder where all the good men are.

Order the good wine

[ZoidbergParticipant 965]

A married woman has a thing for me. Once, when I reminded her again that she is married, one of her friends was present, and said: Marriage is just a thing. It does not mean anything. Both women agreed. Uhm, and what about that vow, I asked. It means nothing, they said.

Yup. Sign me up.

[vargpajParticipant 244]

Zoidberg wrote:

A married woman has a thing for me. Once, when I reminded her again that she is married, one of her friends was present, and said: Marriage is just a thing. It does not mean anything. Both women agreed. Uhm, and what about that vow, I asked. It means nothing, they said.

Yup. Sign me up.

next time you have a conversation like that you should record it and send it to her husband.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Keymaster wrote:

Women have asked me “why are you not married?”
To which I reply “I don’t believe in divorce”.

I like that response. I ought to use it.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[ZoidbergParticipant 965]

vargpaj wrote:

next time you have a conversation like that you should record it and send it to her husband.

I don’t want to get involved in any way. And her husband is no saint either. They deserve each other.

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