The Way of "Walking Alone"

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    Dark Kenshi
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    Brothers,

    I don’t know if anyone of you know this author, or the books that he wrote.

    As the title suggest, one Japanese author (hell, they are ALWAYS ahead of us) in the middle of XVI century wrote this MGTOW masterpiece (and he himself being a MGTOW not only as definition, but by lifestyle too). His name was Miyamoto Musashi, known as Kensei (sword saint), or just simply the greatest samurai this world has ever known.

    He wrote this:

    – Do not turn your back on the various Ways of this world.
    – Do not scheme for physical pleasure.
    – Do not intend to rely on anything.
    – Consider yourself lightly; consider the world deeply.
    – Do not ever think in acquisitive terms.
    – Do not regret things about your own personal life.
    – Do not envy another’s good or evil.
    – Do not lament parting on any road whatsoever.
    – Do not complain or feel bitterly about yourself or others.
    – Have no heart for approaching the path of love.
    – Do not have preferences.
    – Do not harbor hopes for your own personal home.
    – Do not have a liking for delicious food for yourself.
    – Do not carry antiques handed down from generation to generation.
    – Do not fast so that it affects you physically.
    – Do not be fond of material things.
    – Do not begrudge death.
    – Do not be intent on possessing valuables or a fief in old age.
    – Respect the gods and Buddhas, but do not depend on them.
    – Though you give up your life, do not give up your honor.
    – Never depart from the Way of martial arts.

    Dedicated his life ONLY to master the martial arts, he never deviated from the path he set for himself, never took a woman (some say that he never had sex in his life) for spouse nor for girlfriend, never acquired properties other than the tools for his trade, never got a fief, “ghosted” his way to greatness and died as the greatest japanese swordsman of all times.

    That is the man I mirror my life on.

    I think that he is absolutely right about his words and choices, and what he did and wrote, resonate with MGTOW knowledge.

    What do you think about his books, and what do you think about this man?

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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    RoyDal
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    Twenty-One Precepts for His Disciples , by Musashi Miyamoto who wrote the famous Book of Five Rings.

    Here’s one for you to call: “Leave no traces.” by ___?

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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    Twenty-One Precepts for His Disciples , by Musashi Miyamoto who wrote the famous Book of Five Rings.
    Here’s one for you to call: “Leave no traces.” by ___?

    That is one that I don’t know, brother. I would guess it was Sun Tzu, but I am probably wrong.

    That is a quote I never heard before… But, do you mind to point me a direction to it?

    I googled and found many things, but nothing related to martial arts…

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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    RoyDal
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    I cheated. I paraphrased and lifted it from page 65 of this: http://selfdefinition.org/zen/Shunryu-Suzuki-Zen-Mind-Beginner's-Mind.pdf
    Suzuki-Roshi is paraphrasing this old master:

    One stroke has made me forget all my previous knowledge,
    No artificial discipline is at all needed;
    In every movement I uphold the ancient way,
    And never fall into the rut of mere quietism;
    Wherever I walk no traces are left,
    And my senses are not fettered by rules of conduct;
    Everywhere those who have attained to the truth,
    All declare this to be of highest order.
    — Hsiang-yen’s Gatha of Enlightenment

    Baso quoted Hsiang-yen in a famous haiku about a frog (Hi there, Kermit! How’s your puppet-ex-wife doin’?). Scroll down to “Commentary by Robert Aitken.” (Aitken is a present day Zen master.) http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/basho-frog.htm

    Edit: Baso cheated too. It was quotidian, not an actual quote. So it goes…

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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    For anyone interested in his life, here’s the a manga telling his story:
    http://www.mangareader.net/vagabond
    His actual name was Takezo, before he became a legend.

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    Dark Kenshi
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    For anyone interested in his life, here’s the a manga telling his story:http://www.mangareader.net/vagabondHis actual name was Takezo, before he became a legend.

    The manga is damn good, but many things was created by mangaka Inoue’s.

    I would citate the Hyoho Niten Ichi Ryu dojo in Japan, the one run by Yoshimoti Kiyoshi Soke, as they are the holder of Musashi sensei’s history (and legacy) back from the days when he was alive. (Here is the site: http://www.nitenichiryu.jp/ )

    Edit:
    His name was not only Takezo, but it was Shinmen Musashi no Kami Fujiwara no Genshin, son of Shinmen Munisai (Miyamoto Muninosuke), the only man to defeat Yoshioka Kenpo sensei. (Takezo is a controverted name. The official register is the name outside the parentesis)

    It is a little confusing because Japanese men were allowed to change their names three times in their lifes (I am not 100% certain that was three times…), they were given their childhood names by their fathers, then changed their names when they reached manhood, and later when they became a Ronin…

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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    I cheated. I paraphrased and lifted it from page 65 of this: http://selfdefinition.org/zen/Shunryu-Suzuki-Zen-Mind-Beginner's-Mind.pdfSuzuki-Roshi is paraphrasing this old master:
    One stroke has made me forget all my previous knowledge,No artificial discipline is at all needed;In every movement I uphold the ancient way,And never fall into the rut of mere quietism;Wherever I walk no traces are left,And my senses are not fettered by rules of conduct;Everywhere those who have attained to the truth,All declare this to be of highest order.— Hsiang-yen’s Gatha of Enlightenment
    Baso quoted Hsiang-yen in a famous haiku about a frog (Hi there, Kermit! How’s your puppet-ex-wife doin’?). Scroll down to “Commentary by Robert Aitken.” (Aitken is a present day Zen master.) http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/basho-frog.htm
    Edit: Baso cheated too. It was quotidian, not an actual quote. So it goes…

    That is one of the books I HAVE to read, and could not get a hold of a complete one yet…

    Everyone said to me that this book is amazing… And I could not read it.

    I have one from Suzuki Roshi sensei called “Branching Streams Flow In The Darkness”. It is a damn good book.

    I have another one by Takuan Roshi sensei, named “The Unfettered Mind”, written for two of the greatest swordsman in Japan, called Yagyu Munenori and Tadaaki Ano respectivelly.

    And of course, Go Rin no Sho (The Book of Five Rings) by Musashi Sensei and “The Art of War” from Sun Tzu Sifu…

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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    Sky-O
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    Fck Mushashi !!

    STAND ALONE !!!

    This song and the lyrics were not written by a Samurai but by a guy that dropped out of high school in Indiana, moved with his guitar to Florida at the age of 16, worked as a laborer with a roofing company and started a band while living in a storage unit, that spread his insight and philosophy worldwide in the last two decades. Hail Jon Schaffer!.

    And Stand Alone

    ‘Use your mind. Your own free will. In a time when everyone follows. . . . . Ignorance can kill. STAND ALONE!!’

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    Dark Kenshi
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    Sky-O, my brother!

    Nice one! Iced Earth is one of my favourite bands, man!

    Indeed “Stand Alone” is a f~~~ing good music, the lyrics and s~~~, they are awesome!

    And Jon… That badass motherf~~~er indeed is an awesome man. He did it, with nothing more than REALLY hard work and sheer amounts of willpower.

    Indeed, HAIL JON SCHAFFER!

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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    Seph N Haven
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    i actually popped in here because i’m in process of making content about him.
    Wanted to make sure someone hadn’t already made an in depth or even a review of the legendary man.

    When i was 8 years old my takahashi gave the book of 5 rings along with a biography of the man which included his Dokkōdō, for my birthday.
    Read them millions times, were only books i kept all the years i lived on the streets as a child/teenager.
    Book of the void has always been my favorite.

    Only part about his story that is iffy is that he adopted a total of 5 sons over his years.
    Many make accusations of him being either homosexual or bisexual and that these boys were more like his lovers than adopted sons.
    Nothing is substantial and more looks to be just people trying to slander the man’s name.

    Huge fan.

    If someone else is gonna make something on him i won’t, but if door is still open i’m on it.

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    Dark Kenshi
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    i actually popped in here because i’m in process of making content about him.Wanted to make sure someone hadn’t already made an in depth or even a review of the legendary man.
    When i was 8 years old my takahashi gave the book of 5 rings along with a biography of the man which included his Dokkōdō, for my birthday.Read them millions times, were only books i kept all the years i lived on the streets as a child/teenager.Book of the void has always been my favorite.
    Only part about his story that is iffy is that he adopted a total of 5 sons over his years.Many make accusations of him being either homosexual or bisexual and that these boys were more like his lovers than adopted sons.Nothing is substantial and more looks to be just people trying to slander the man’s name.
    Huge fan.
    If someone else is gonna make something on him i won’t, but if door is still open i’m on it.

    There is no problem, brother. Go ahead and do it.

    I never saw something about him here, so I think that it will be good to talk about one of the oldest MGTOW’s in history of mankind…

    Anyway, it will be nice to compare notes about him with another fellow student of him and his arts.

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

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