The Way of Silence

[StealthParticipant 5336]

Going through my own divorce, and observing that of others, the man is almost always blamed.

No matter how hysterical the accusations, if the man has remained silent and not jumped into the s~~~-flinging fest, I think people tend to view him with respect, or at least dignified curiosity.

By contrast, anything you say can and will be held against you in the social arena, no matter how true or principled.

In retrospect I think it is better to say as close to nothing as possible. It is, at least, one way to maintain your dignity.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22519]

I think the best rule is “Know your Audience”. Also “Loose Lips….”

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 42]

Stealth wrote:

In retrospect I think it is better to say as close to nothing as possible. It is, at least, one way to maintain your dignity.

I like silence if you start out silent and never interact on an emotional level. There’s no happiness for a man considering all the changes made and amended to law.

Governmental matrimony is a weapon in the hands of a women and a slave sentence to a man that’s removed and thrown in prison.

As a four year old boy would say; Signing the contract of marriage is a BIG NO FAIRZEES!

The law has been altered and abused by women, giving them no accountability and holding us responsible for their bad decisions and poor behavior. A man’s life hangs in the balance over the whimsical obnoxious selfish spoiled brat child!

Making the PHONE CALL is the same as a spoiled child screaming at the top of her lungs!

I don’t like the idea of having a screaming spoiled brat having legal dominion over me!

I hear those screams and cries no more!

MGTOW brought peace and tranquility to my life,

I’m not a bozo punching doll for all the spoiled brats to take turns knocking down!

Anyone that does, good luck in that legal romper room being bozo the clown!

[GregB0Participant]

Stealth wrote:

By contrast, anything you say can and will be held against you in the social arena, no matter how true or principled.

Absolutely correct, if you don’t say it they cannot remember it. If they cannot remember it, then they certainly cannot hold it against you.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Anonymous 13]

F~~~ SILENCE.

30 f~~~ing years of loyal,unwavering loyalty and servitude.

Doing everything in your power to keep the boat afloat and TRYING to mAke it work.

When all along there was a far bigger machine AT PLAY.

Taken for everything I worked for, taken for my retirement.

Silence? F~~~ you!

I’m going down screaming this whole injustice from the roof tops but that’s just me.

F~~~ coming quietly.

I heard that line once to many.

F~~~ this unjust s~~~ show.

[Remove me!Participant]

I completely agree, Stealth. I was drug through the mud during my divorce. The only reason I stayed silent and not argue back was because of our child. I knew we would both be judged by our child by what we say and do. Our child isn’t even 18 now and she sees right through it. She is already seeing the writing on the wall. And our “friends” that agreed I was a piece of s~~~ during the divorce have been proven wrong. They are all embarrassed.

HOWEVER, if we hadn’t had children, I might have slung mud myself. But looking back, it never helps anything. She hates me, and arguing with her will not change anything. She will still believe in her bulls~~~.

You can’t fix stupid!

Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.

[StealthParticipant 5336]

Anonymous wrote:

F~~~ SILENCE.

30 f~~~ing years of loyal,unwavering loyalty and servitude.

Doing everything in your power to keep the boat afloat and TRYING to mAke it work.

When all along there was a far bigger machine AT PLAY.

Taken for everything I worked for, taken for my retirement.

Silence? F~~~ you!

I’m going down screaming this whole injustice from the roof tops but that’s just me.

F~~~ coming quietly.

I heard that line once to many.

F~~~ this unjust s~~~ show.

This was my first position and still the way I see things. But when it comes to family and friends, nobody listens. They don’t care about justice.

Now Im going my own way and fighting for justice or revenge when possible. I wish I had said less to the people who knew us; in the end they just wadded it up, shat on it, and threw it back. Didnt do much good.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Stealth wrote:

Going through my own divorce, and observing that of others, the man is almost always blamed.

No matter how hysterical the accusations, if the man has remained silent and not jumped into the s~~~-flinging fest, I think people tend to view him with respect, or at least dignified curiosity.

Wise words. A man must demonstrate his emotional intelligence and common sense. Woman just yell.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MGTOW@50Participant 225]

Responding.

Yelling.

Even screaming from the rooftops.

Feels really good.

BUT

Does not require those who witness

To THINK.

To QUESTION.

To CONSIDER.

The wife will scream.

And yell.

And seek allies with lies.

BUT

When the dust settles,

The wife is remembered,

As a shill,

A fake,

A lunatic.

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

Silence and an outward appearance of calm. You are sitting at a poker table playing against her, the judge, and the lawyers. That was my mantra recently when I was deposed.

Answer only the question you were asked. Do not give any extra details or information. Just like with the police, anything you say can and will be used against you. Give your answers in a dispassionate monotone. You are without emotion and coldly giving responses. Make and hold eye contact with the lawyer when answering. Over time, they will realize that you are taking this very seriously and are not f*cking around. The lawyer may become embarrassed or uncomfortable and continuously break eye contact to look down at the table or anywhere else but you.

Her lawyer will ask you a series of questions to get you into a pattern of agreeing and then ask the trick question. Always pause and fully think about each question and your answer before giving it. It breaks up their tempo of trying to take advantage of human nature to be agreeable. If you slightly disagree with something, say “No.” and nothing else. This will take them aback as they expect you to agree with their line of questions. They usually aren’t prepared for this and a well reasoned explaination of how they are wrong, when the ask for it, will upset their strategy. Employed often and effectively, their offense becomes confused and eventually they, “Have no further questions.”

Know the law where you live. I did take special satisfaction in citing state law as to why I took a specific stance on an issue in my divorce. That line of questions ended after that.

In this situation, be silent, be confident, seek knowledge, and support. There’s always someone here who has been through it and can help.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[JakeParticipant 908]

yell it up it works say I wot be silent

[LonestarParticipant 333]

NoMore wrote:

Silence and an outward appearance of calm. You are sitting at a poker table playing against her, the judge, and the lawyers. That was my mantra recently when I was deposed.

Answer only the question you were asked. Do not give any extra details or information. Just like with the police, anything you say can and will be used against you. Give your answers in a dispassionate monotone. You are without emotion and coldly giving responses. Make and hold eye contact with the lawyer when answering. Over time, they will realize that you are taking this very seriously and are not f*cking around. The lawyer may become embarrassed or uncomfortable and continuously break eye contact to look down at the table or anywhere else but you.

Her lawyer will ask you a series of questions to get you into a pattern of agreeing and then ask the trick question. Always pause and fully think about each question and your answer before giving it. It breaks up their tempo of trying to take advantage of human nature to be agreeable. If you slightly disagree with something, say “No.” and nothing else. This will take them aback as they expect you to agree with their line of questions. They usually aren’t prepared for this and a well reasoned explaination of how they are wrong, when the ask for it, will upset their strategy. Employed often and effectively, their offense becomes confused and eventually they, “Have no further questions.”

Know the law where you live. I did take special satisfaction in citing state law as to why I took a specific stance on an issue in my divorce. That line of questions ended after that.

In this situation, be silent, be confident, seek knowledge, and support. There’s always someone here who has been through it and can help.

A co-worker recently told me, “If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them.” I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

Absolutely agree with this.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I remember being initially treated with pity by my Ex’s friends and family. The Ex was telling them how she was going to take me for everything I was worth. My demeanor was calm, even carefree. When the battle was joined in earnest, everyone saw how I was kicking her ass in court and how the Ex’s world was falling apart. I could sense a change in attitudes towards me. Respect maybe even a little fear.

So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key. Eagles

[MerlinParticipant 136]

Do your speaking in the court room and with your attorney. It does not mean that you sit on your hands. Gather intel, load the cannons and be ready to wreck her world with the laser guided nuke of truth when needed. Never forget women are as dangerous as vipers when they are in attack mode, but they are also easily trapped in their own BS.

[MerlinParticipant 136]

Record every phone call with her. Video every meeting. Have a witness. Cover your ass.

[Anonymous 1]

You don’t need to say anything.
In uk the divorce papers will read ‘on occasions too numerous to particularise……’
meaning ‘well I can’t specify what he did wrong and when, but I can say anything and not have to prove any of it’

[StealthParticipant 5336]

Anonymous wrote:

You don’t need to say anything.
In uk the divorce papers will read ‘on occasions too numerous to particularise……’
meaning ‘well I can’t specify what he did wrong and when, but I can say anything and not have to prove any of it’

Same in the U.S. There is no-fault divorce, and the courts don’t want to hear the s~~~. I am curious about the posts who talk about hitting her hard in court, and assume child custody was involved. In my case it was division of assets only, which is done blindly down the middle no matter the circumstance.

On the street, silence keeps you clean.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

I wouldn’t call it hitting her hard in court. I am defending myself.

Before I filed for divorce, I offered her half of everything, which would be well over 100k. She said no and listed her demands which was over three times what I offered. She wanted 150% of everything we owned. Basically, I could drive away in my car with my clothes and toothbrush, leave her the house, everything in it, and the bank accounts. I would still end up paying her another 50% of the value.

I am fighting for a fair deal in court. I may or may not get one, but remain confident. I don’t want to screw her over, as I thing a 50/50 split is fair. Unfortunately, she has watched too many shows where the wife takes everything and she thinks this is the norm. Sometimes it is the norm, after reading many members’ stories. I will remain confident.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[AttonParticipant]

Freedom matters more than the opinions of fools.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[LonestarParticipant 333]

Stealth wrote:

I am curious about the posts who talk about hitting her hard in court,

Not just court. Example: We didn’t get temporary orders from a judge, just a handshake agreement that I would get custody on certain weekends and pay X in child support. She tells me that I won’t get custody when we agreed because “We don’t have anything in writing”. I tell the lawyer this and he says
“Yes She’s correct, we don’t have anything in writing. Stop paying her“. She went crazy, but nothing she could do. If you have lots of assets then mediation isn’t quite so cut and dry, there’s room to negotiate. If she’s having immediate money problems and your’re not, then your’re negotiating from a position of strength. This thing can drag out forever, no problem for you. But for her, she needs a settlement NOW.
I can only say how I did it, may not work for everyone. But since I’ll never go through that hell again, that will be my one data point.

So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key. Eagles

[LonestarParticipant 333]

More examples: My Ex had a beta-orbiter that was helping her so I get a Private Investigator to do a little research on this guy, dug up some dirt. That info goes in the discovery file and the Ex knows it.

Same beta-orbiter borrowed the Ex’s truck to pull a trailer to a festival. I notice the trailer has expired licence plates and no lights. I tell some cop friends of mine working security there, long story short Beta-boy gets a ticket.
Yah, I’m a prick. 🙂

My theory is, if ya gotta fight do it right.

So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key. Eagles

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