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Anonymous3In prior post of this series I presented the realization that man and woman might be two different species altogether, so different are their behaviors, values and interests. I further identified the natural origin of these species.
Now we can look on how one of these species went to war with the other.
Women surround themselves with women. The hive is their natural habitat, and always been throughout natural history. Women where always talking with other women while men where outside hunting, building, discovering, working, fighting…
Men always surround themselves with men. They band together to do stuff, to build, to work, to hunt, to fight… While women talked with eachother.
Let us, not disregard the female hive. While women banded together they would exchange information, they would plot, they would learn new female tricks, they would create new alliances and enemies, they would shame eachother, they would argue, they would receive emotional attacks, they would perform emotional attacks.
This is the training ground for social warfare and women have been practicing it for millennium.Men, on the other hand, would limit their interactions to pragmatic and objective stuff. They talked essentially on how to do things and how to be good providers. When they fight it is a physical and brutal event, reserved for life and death situations. This is men’s power: the hard power.
But it is not the training ground for social warfare.Men understand a real war, but not social war. This war has no apparent victims, it does not draw blood immediately. It is a war waged in words and minds, aiming to the destruction of personality, selfesteem, and social positions. Women start fighting this war as children, and they never stop. The ability to fight with words and thoughts is their power: the soft power.
Because of these differences, men and women do not get along well in long term interactions. Men do not play the social games of women, they do not fight emotionally like women, they do not press emotional buttons like women, therefore they are boring to a woman. On the other hand, women do not have any interest in doing like a man, building like a man, discovering like a man or competing like a man, therefore they are boring to a man.
To each specie the interests of the other is childlike and uninteresting.
However, if we remember the origin of these species, men had specific instincts to provide, protect and mate frequently with women. And women had a need for the security and resources provided by men. They were interdependent, and even if they dont really get along well they must spend time together to fulfill their specific needs.
But once society reached a developed stage, with enough resources surplus, women lose their primary need for men while men still maintain their need for women. It is said: “dominates a relationship the one that cares less about it”. And women start their first offensive.
It always starts by security. Since women are weak and men are strong, it is necessary to have rules and police to impose these rules, so that women can feel safe from men. This removes the second need for men, and women are now totally free of men.
The first casualty in this offensive is always the male aggressiveness. Men that show this aggressiveness are deemed to dangerous to society and thrown into prison. Once men lose their hard power then women dominate with their soft power. And men have to adapt or they lose the access to women, an instinctive need that they still have.
The second offensive is public opinion. Were once speech was objective and the imperative of values rule, women introduce subjectivity and feelings. This is a battle that men always lose if they listen to women, because men have no training for the verbal wars and operate under constrains of objectivity, logic, truth and fairness. Women have no such constrains, they will always win an argument in a manipulative way.
The casualty of this offensive is the direction of society, because women dont actually have any clear heading. Their heading is the momentary push for short terms rewards. That is the result of a creature that was created to forage: they do not think on anything at a long run, they are pickers of the opportunity.
Men, on the other hand, need a clear direction to operate. They are hunters that need to know the plan. This subjective environment and lack of direction creates even weaker males, that are subjective themselves. These men are confused and feel that life has no meaning or purpose.
The third offensive is male spaces. Since men need to be around other men, and since women have taken by assault the public speech, it is now subversive (to women) for men to talk freely amongst themselves. It is necessary to police men with some hive representatives to keep them in line.
Once achieved their goal of infiltration in all male spaces, then the domination is complete.
Only female points of view are discussed.
Only female interests are valued,
Only policies to give resources to female are pursued.And females win the war.
You may think my analysis is incomplete. What about the family and the war on family?
This dynamic is exactly what goes on inside families. Once the first offensive is successful, then the husband loses the power inside his house. Women wield their soft power of verbal dominance and break the man.
Let us remind ourselves that men face conflicts as life and death situations. Women deal with social conflicts like a game. When men fight verbally with women, they still feel like they are in a real physical battle. This is a stressful situation for a man, emotionally and physically, while it is just a play for a woman.
After a clash, while the man is trying to recover from the adrenaline rush, she will quickly get back into the fight, because the interruption was only to gather more ammunition. No man can stand this attrition for long time.
Just like in a real war, when subjected to days of shelling, men develop a PTSD. Whenever a conflict with the woman starts these men protect themselves emotionally, just like a soldier curled into a ball during a bombing. And he endures the aggression without responding, because it makes no difference, only extends the suffering. The man is broken, he only tries to avoid conflict. It is a dynamic that every married man knows to well.Once the man is broken, the second offensive starts, and every discourse is subjective and manipulative. The husband sense of reality is reshaped to the wife’s point of view.
The third offensive is to cut out the husband from the influence other males. This isolation is necessary for the female to maintain the control of the narrative.
The family is only a microcosm of society. The same dynamic applies.
Females win the war. It is inevitable and the only possible outcome of an advanced civilization. It is also its end.
Next post: The escape from the bonds of nature.
Well said Manfred.
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Great post.
Females win the war. It is inevitable and the only possible outcome of an advanced civilization. It is also its end.
That is what has happened so far throughout history.
Anonymous18I agree with your post in its entirely Manfred.
The understanding of the female hindbrain has come via red pill/mgtow, but its too late.
Feminine exploitation of males has always been a woman’s primary goal. The dynamics of social changes and advancements change the rules by which she games such exploitation. But male identity and fate has been, is, and will likely always be determined by the collective feminine hive.
I hope you will highlight the crucial aspect of male dependence on female validation in your next post to break the cycle.
Cheers bro
Anonymous42They prepared us a nice warm plate of s~~~ to eat and we’re not biting!
The contract between man, citizen, family, and country is NULL&VOID thanks to the advancement of women over men and men disposable!
They had their shot, now they can go f~~~ themselves!
Anonymous43it’s going to take me a while to digest this. Excellent post amigo.
it’s going to take me a while to digest this. Excellent post amigo.
Absolutely. He’s certainly nailed it.
That said, I myself have gone so monk I’m in the Himalayas. Therefore, I’m immune from wimmins’ allures. F~~~ ’em.
"Always learn from the mistakes of others. You can never live long enough to make them all yourself."--Groucho Marx.
very well said. It made for interesting reading and seems to cover present day society. I think that a man doesn’t have to be emasculated by a woman. If he stands his ground and doesn’t fall for any s~~~ tests or puts up with her manipulation she will eventually submit and support the man instead of trying to emasculate him. Women want a man to take control and lead. One problem is too many men don’t know how to lead. Women want confidence in a man so she can be confident in him. Once that her confidence is established the man still has to maintain his confidence and lead. One example I think of is the man makes reservations at a restaurant, he tells his woman early enough in the day so she has time to prepare and tells her at the same time she can go or not. Depends on what she chooses will tell a man a lot. He tells her in such a manner that he doesn’t care if she goes or not such as “If you want to come, Great. If not, Great”. I think that if the woman cares at all about him she will show. So, basically, women want a confident man to lead and even make the major decisions. Of course it is only fair to see what she says but you make the decisions. That is way women are attracted to jerks and bad boys. Those guys are generally confident and don’t really care what the women want. Then when they are tired of the woman they will kick her to the curb. Anyway, fellas, take charge and lead if you ever want to have a relations~~~ to a woman. Of course, the best way, still, is to stay MGTOW.
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
There’s just only a way to win for men:
Artificial sex + artificial wombs.Every other option is pure foolishness: it’s either already defeated (all forms of tradcon approachs to the issue) or reality-fled (women supporting men? BWHAHAHAHAH! We know they aren’t going to do this!).
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Society has been broken for a long time, and only with the advent of the end of the cold war has made men realize the danger of allowing women to lead. We’re aware now, while our forefathers (greatest generation, babyboomers) were to busy with the outward threat, and never saw the growing threat at home.
As Eric says, the solution is a technical one, to replace the broken version with an artificial crutch. The only need for women, I am not even sure what is. As a man can support all the necessary genetics for offspring. So, men can live without women, while women cannot live without men.
Lets see who laughs last.
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
That’s also why I’m a strong supporter of surrogacy, especially for single men and gay couples: it normalizes the idea of men having children almost without involving a woman and by so it prepare society to the idea of men accessing to artificial womb without the need of woman.
In the long run a ban on surrogacy would be a ban on men accessing to artificial womb.It doesn’t matter in the slighest if they ban commercial surrogacy: altruistic surrogacy suffice to forward the idea – and that’s precisely why radfems oppose even altruistic surrogacy.
There’s even the chance that a combo ban on commercial surrogacy (on the ground of economical exploitation of women) + altruistic surrogacy being allowed (since there isn’t economical exploitation) would be the best combination, boosting the need and the development of artificial womb.Artificial sex is easier, much easier. We’re approaching its mass-adoption at lightning speed, with laws about “affirmative verbal consent” like that they’re to introduce in Sweden.
And every man who had at least some one-night-stands knows that, from a purely physical pleasure viewpoint, a fleshlight isn’t inferior to a vagina felt through a condom, the only thing that makes the access to the vagina of an unknown woman being considered much more is the sense of “conquering a prey”, validation – this is going to melt like snow under the sun due the above laws: because you can’t get much validation by verbally asking permission like a beggar. Sensibilities varies among different men, but it’s very likely that most will feel accessing to a vagina respecting such rules more like an humiliation than a validation, and even those who will still feel it as a validation will get much less validation due such rulesSUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
They may not win the war if man embraces technology and the true power of the darkside.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Manfred,
Thank you for writing such a thoughtful and philosophical post.
I agree with a lot of what you said.
I personally don’t think women will win in the end. Women, for instance, will never be successful in killing most or all men. In an armed conflict, it is no contest. Men will triumph.
Women rely on a relatively normal economy and society. Once war or an economic crisis hits, women lose.Like it or not, women rely on men for protection. If society disintegrates and gangs rome the streets, women will have to find men who will protect them. Otherwise, they will perish.
If the economy crashes, women will also have to turn to men for provision.
I see a time when women will fight other women for a man.
Do I personally plan to lose to a woman? Absolutely no way.
Thanks.Men and chimps are more similar genetically than man and woman, separated by the Y chromosome.
Men and women are actually a bit more similar as the Y chromosome has about 5% of its DNA sequences in common with the X chromosome. This would change the number to 98.4% the same.
If the 98.7% number for chimp-human similarity is right, then by this measure, men and women are less alike than are female chimps and women.
http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask38
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Men and chimps are more similar genetically than man and woman, separated by the Y chromosome.
Men and women are actually a bit more similar as the Y chromosome has about 5% of its DNA sequences in common with the X chromosome. This would change the number to 98.4% the same.
If the 98.7% number for chimp-human similarity is right, then by this measure, men and women are less alike than are female chimps and women.
I think Turd Flinging Monkey (on Youtube) would be thrilled to get the news…
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
Anonymous14You leave out the most important part Manfred; why the State always backs the Women, as it is in their interest to do so if it wishes to grow in size and power. So, what we end up with is State & Women vs. Men, the disposable of the two sexes seen as nothing more than a resource to Women and the State. The alliance is only natural as the Men are the sheep to be controlled, fleeced, used, and disposed of at their collective leisure.
Anonymous3Thank you everyone for your kind words of encouragement.
I think that a man doesn’t have to be emasculated by a woman. If he stands his ground and doesn’t fall for any s~~~ tests or puts up with her manipulation she will eventually submit and support the man instead of trying to emasculate him. Women want a man to take control and lead. One problem is too many men don’t know how to lead.
What you say is true and I have followed such path in my marriage by learning to lead and “deal” with women.
The trouble is that men actually have to learn because nowadays men have been too “emasculated” by society rules and their upbringing.
But you know what happened to me? I gave up, because the effort to “deal” with women must be constant. And in the end one asks himself: what for. And that is before the red pill.
It is like taming a horse, but instead of doing it once you have to do it all the time. Its exhausting, and it simply is not worth the effort.
Anonymous38Stunning post Manfred. I eagerly await the next instalment.
If you were a giant looking at the Earth as the size of a marble you would think the human species is perfectly healthy. As much suffering as we have been through, it is good to retain this perspective because as a man your only choice in life is sink or swim. Which is not to say you must swim in the same direction as everyone else (MGTOW). In fact to carry on the analogy MGTOW is creating a fork in the river and this ‘tributary’ is becoming wider every day.
Women being the limiting factor in reproduction have always been the prize, the most interesting thing for me is wondering how technology might change that.
Anonymous0There’s just only a way to win for men:
Artificial sex + artificial wombs.Stunning post Manfred. I eagerly await the next instalment.
Women being the limiting factor in reproduction have always been the prize, the most interesting thing for me is wondering how technology might change that.Thank you for your beautiful post, Manfred!
There is indeed scientific proof of quantitative and qualitative differences between people, which was a result of Soviet R&D experiments in brain investigation area. And the difference between men and women is really on species level. Needles to say, that every single women are less “human” than men, ’cause brain structure is different in principal construction. Some of them more, some of them less, but AWALT. It is pretty much obvious for sane men, but who have known about scientific proof of that? Not some MSM bulls~~~, not some myths and misconseptions, but real proof, which could be measured and reproduced… I want to add, that original discoverer of that facts refused to publish his data in full scale and that info was published only after his death by his apprentice, Sergey Savelyev
He is link to interview with him (in Russian, and it’s sad – English auto-translate is very inaccurate)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpX7bVeUVug
I’m agrred with mgtow_taoist question about changes. It is interesting for me too, would that changes of artificial womb implementation affect brain structure? Would that technology change petrified instincts of mammonth era? I think that in long run it definately will! And that is good!
Excellent post.
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