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Every man desires to be great?
It’s simple, you just read that and wonder if its even true. Can you be satisfied by sitting on your couch pondering? Because you know that’s what is actually happening here. You feel paralyzed by what seems to be your unique life demands. They all seem to you very important. Are you not aware that none of it is to blame, that you and her – a product of the world already so very screwed before the term ‘you’ was even a thought. We can all blame each other for this, for eternity and or you can choose to grow differently going UP. Our forefathers taught discipline and with the promise that with it will teach the way of humility and more importantly to be humble. The world today are filled with robots. We are being robbed of our relationships and most importantly love. We are blindly moving a direction we’ve identified as “The WAY” and we are so very miss guided and so very wrong. That is why I can’t submit to go on this journey. It can be done, but not at the expense of my fellow person/woman/powerofthesuninsidehuman for I strongly believe that we were f~~~ed before all of this for me came to be.
"You live you die. You smoke you buy."
Anonymous6I agree with your assessment. But you gotta put up an intro first. All the other guys are gonna come in here and say the same thing, so make sure you go and introduce yourself to everybody 1st
tuna?
your own way, is your own way. you most certainly can still be a compassionate and connected human being while still going your own way. either you’re a troll or have a severe misunderstanding of the intent of what is being presented here.
This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.
Anonymous18very miss guided
6 inches below the navel
We are blindly moving a direction we’ve identified as “The WAY” and we are so very miss guided and so very wrong.
Going your own way is about having your eyes OPEN – not “blindly” closed like you pretend. The preachy “we” stuff when including others in that “we”…. is a big mistake here.
If you are here because you believe you’re part of a “we” that is “misguided”, then you are here for the WRONG reasons.
That is why I can’t submit to go on this journey
Why are you pretending than anyone asked you to?
There’s the door.
You’re free to leave.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You heard it boys, back to the plantation!
Just open your hearts and give kindly master providence over you life. The whippings won’t be too bad this time. Unless you are a hard learner and need them.
Re-connect to the Matrix and enjoy your fake steak.Seriously, back to foxholes, gentleman. OP cannot stand the thought of shell shocked men finding some peace in their lives, on their own terms, without trying some more with women and love.
I agree with your assessment. But you gotta put up an intro first. All the other guys are gonna come in here and say the same thing, so make sure you go and introduce yourself to everybody 1st
I will but I can also introduce myself here. I am Ihsan and I am from the Philippines. I just joined a site and also ended up the forums by mistake. I had never had any intentions of seeing the “light” or posting here but I had to after each post became something I wanted to read. Yes, people join communities just to read your posts. I’ve had plenty of time here to just reflect, and its helped me get over some pain during a relationship. I’ve read plenty, and I am seeing a trend. You american boys are weak and at the “seeing” of it finally. You are panicking too quickly when you should just relax and stop being sensitive. Because other men, like hardworking steal and sell cigarettes men have other things in our minds than a woman punching me and making me feel less of a man?
Americans are silly@!!@ stop it.
"You live you die. You smoke you buy."
A dullard strung on the wire.
When the master’s gone you hang there with your eyes and your limbs so lifeless.How did they teach you to be just a happy puppet dancing on a string?
How do you manage to speak, your mouth a frozen grin?Tell me something, if the world is so insane,
is it making you sane again to let a woman tug at the thread that pulls up your empty wooden head?Your hollow head, your marble eyes, your wooden hands and your metal jaw pins
all wait in limbo for the woman who knows how to move you this way.-happy puppet
You don’t need to introduce yourself. We knew you before you even arrived.
Can you be satisfied by sitting on your couch pondering? Because you know that’s what is actually happening here. You feel paralyzed by what seems to be your unique life demands. They all seem to you very important. Are you not aware that none of it is to blame, that you and her – a product of the world already so very screwed before the term ‘you’ was even a thought.
If you think that MGTOW is nothing more than sad guys sitting around on the couch whining about women then you clearly know nothing about it. These fine gentlemen have lives, careers, goals. Your right about one thing society is f~~~ed and it messed up men and women. But sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending you can still make it work isn’t going to happen. You want to find out the hard way then go for it, but don’t come here talking down to men of wisdom… you may one day need men of wisdom on the path your going down.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!"....... and i'll look down and whisper "No."
I’m with you on not destroying others man. I’ve never seen it turn out good.
That being said. Yes, things may not be what you had originally percieved to believe. But every day, every second is an opportunity. And in that there is hope. You can be the change. For better or for worse. Keep your head up bro, and stay sharp.
Best wishes
-BoostedThe truth will set you free.
A dullard strung on the wire.
When the master’s gone you hang there with your eyes and your limbs so lifeless.How did they teach you to be just a happy puppet dancing on a string?
How do you manage to speak, your mouth a frozen grin?Tell me something, if the world is so insane,
is it making you sane again to let a woman tug at the thread that pulls up your empty wooden head?Your hollow head, your marble eyes, your wooden hands and your metal jaw pins
all wait in limbo for the woman who knows how to move you this way.-happy puppet
You don’t need to introduce yourself. We knew you before you even arrived.
I really don’t feel that way though. You assume I do but you know very very little about me. I found my salvation through believing in myself, not having anyone including women tell me how much I am worth. I act in a way that isn’t robotic but honest. If I want to turn the other cheek to someone I really love, I will. Not because I’m controlled by fear because I was systematically trained to defend my ego that way by a society that things kindergarten is a useful tool to keeping children locked in fear; but because I want to.. Because I like to make someone else happy. Whether it is a girl or a boy. Maybe it is just for a friend huh?
For instance, a stranger knocks and asks for food. He is dangerous looking or not I will open the door. If something terrible happens, I have weapons. I can disarm him. So no worries, I will ask him to come in, so i can feed him and so I can feel good about helping him.
But I see videos. I see each person saying they want to be great. They want to be great one day, and they blame everyone but themselves because they can not feel great. They don’t feel great because they are doing everything going the wrong way. The opposite direction. The me direction and that’s just not feasible. What works is the instant you start lending your hand out to someone, and showing that level of commitment regardless of the public stance on you and your level of “humanity” or “respect” or any of those words that serve to make you feel “renown”. BECAUSE when a stranger finally does introduce himself and is dangerous, that is all that is separating you from all that renown and certain death.
I’m with you on not destroying others man. I’ve never seen it turn out good.
That being said. Yes, things may not be what you had originally percieved to believe. But every day, every second is an opportunity. And in that there is hope. You can be the change. For better or for worse. Keep your head up bro, and stay sharp.
Best wishes
-BoostedThis is everything I wanted to say in the OP. :)!!
"You live you die. You smoke you buy."
You assume I do but you know very very little about me
That’s an interesting statement from someone who pretends to have everyone else in the room all figured out.
They don’t feel great because they are doing everything going the wrong way. The opposite direction. The me direction and that’s just not feasible.
Who’s “assuming” now?
“I don’t have time for a wife and an airplane”.
– Wilbur Wright.Your big mistake here is assuming that men who live for themselves don’t have other passions and dedications that are actually BIGGER and more important than themselves. That’s what’s required to become “great”.
Ask Wilbur. He knows.
You can ask Tesla too. . . .“Be alone, that is the secret of invention.
Be alone, that is when ideas are born.”Both “great” men who went their own way . . . . and were still dedicated to something bigger and more important than themselves. So one wonders if you have any concept of the point you’re trying to make. Perhaps you’re the one who’s “miss guided”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Can you be satisfied by sitting on your couch pondering? Because you know that’s what is actually happening here. You feel paralyzed by what seems to be your unique life demands. They all seem to you very important. Are you not aware that none of it is to blame, that you and her – a product of the world already so very screwed before the term ‘you’ was even a thought.
If you think that MGTOW is nothing more than sad guys sitting around on the couch whining about women then you clearly know nothing about it. These fine gentlemen have lives, careers, goals. Your right about one thing society is f~~~ed and it messed up men and women. But sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending you can still make it work isn’t going to happen. You want to find out the hard way then go for it, but don’t come here talking down to men of wisdom… you may one day need men of wisdom on the path your going down.
I actually respect a lot of the people here. It is the first and only community I want to be posting in because most of the people here I feel are heading towards the “wise” path – the “gray” or the Luke skywalker look thing.. Listen, I get it. But it makes what I said more serious. Let go of the pride. I did not post to be-little. You are being too sensitive brother!
"You live you die. You smoke you buy."
You already stated that this site helped you to deal with pain during a relationship.
That’s all this place is about, for you.
I’m glad that we helped you.
If this place wouldn’t have existed, you won’t have been helped.
Now you should return to your usual way of life: have another relationship, invest all yourself in it, good luck.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
You assume I do but you know very very little about me
That’s an interesting statement from someone who pretends to have everyone else in the room all figured out.
They don’t feel great because they are doing everything going the wrong way. The opposite direction. The me direction and that’s just not feasible.
Who’s “assuming” now?
“I don’t have time for a wife and an airplane”.
– Wilbur Wright.Your big mistake here is assuming that men who live for themselves don’t have other passions and dedications that are actually BIGGER and more important than themselves. That’s what’s required to become “great”.
Ask Wilbur. He knows.
You can ask Tesla too. . . .“Be alone, that is the secret of invention.
Be alone, that is when ideas are born.”Both “great” men who went their own way . . . . and were still dedicated to something bigger and more important than themselves.
Yes I do not believe that most men here live for something bigger and greater than themselves. That’s exactly my point. Will you list me things you live for that are bigger, greater things? Please don’t post university, or college or politics, careers or anything to do with winning the world series of poker..
We all know that is a lie. Want to reach for something higher than you – try risking the sum of your worth and multiply it by two. Do that and you get a lil’ baby. See that’s the trick of life. You get to a point, look back – see it as a threat then only to have you see further to look back and see it as life.
And that goal turned into something else too. You finally achieved it and it still didn’t compare to that time when you were driving around looking forward to going to grand ma ma’s and telling her you finally reached your goal. Grand ma ma had died already and if she hasn’t she became very old and forgot who you were. In the end, you still remember but the sad thing is, that the goal or achievement was only for you to remember not anybodies.
The lesson is to never risk twice what is your worth. Meaning living for this greatness thing you’re talking about and defending it is only an illusion. You will lose it anyway, and would’ve been better if you maintained a true middle path.
"You live you die. You smoke you buy."
Yes I do not believe that most men here live for something bigger and greater than themselves.
Who gives a s~~~ what you “believe”???
If they work and pay taxes, they do already. Their labor is already going to support single mommies everywhere, and the very fabric of society and system that treats men like second class citizens.
So you don’t mind if men enjoy the REST of their labor for themselves do you?
Excellent.
We all know that is a lie.
You’re lying to yourself if you think “a baby” is some kind of an accomplishment. The only requirenent for that to happen is to have unprotected sex. It’s f~~~ing pathetic. Survival and mating is the pinnacle of success for animals in the wild. That’s the BEST they are ever gonna do. But it’s NOT the pinnacle of success for humans/men.
Squirting in a female is hardly a loftier goal.
You’re DEFINITELY in the WRONG FORUM bringing that utterly thoughtless s~~~ in here.
That is why I can’t submit to go on this journey
Then LEAVE.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Every man desires to be great?
It’s simple, you just read that and wonder if its even true. Can you be satisfied by sitting on your couch pondering? Because you know that’s what is actually happening here. You feel paralyzed by what seems to be your unique life demands. They all seem to you very important. Are you not aware that none of it is to blame, that you and her – a product of the world already so very screwed before the term ‘you’ was even a thought. We can all blame each other for this, for eternity and or you can choose to grow differently going UP. Our forefathers taught discipline and with the promise that with it will teach the way of humility and more importantly to be humble. The world today are filled with robots. We are being robbed of our relationships and most importantly love. We are blindly moving a direction we’ve identified as “The WAY” and we are so very miss guided and so very wrong. That is why I can’t submit to go on this journey. It can be done, but not at the expense of my fellow person/woman/powerofthesuninsidehuman for I strongly believe that we were f~~~ed before all of this for me came to be.
We? Please speak for yourself. You do not lead anyone here least of all Me. I take orders from no one.
I am not a product of the World around me, otherwise I would be consumed and spat out by Society. I am a product of my own decisions.
Love is non-existant. Go back further in time and you will find that Men often warned against falling in love. From the stories of Sampson who was betrayed by Delilah to the Story of Agamemnon it is well documented that Women are Sirens and Traitors at all points in history. Men create, Women destroy all for the sake of “Getting a better genetic deal” they are loyal to the Species not the individual.
I am not paralyzed at all. The Paralyzed Men are the ones who spew the propaganda of society and never question it. They simply accept it as truth and move on. I don’t sit on my couch all day so let me walk you through a day in the life of a MGHOW to educate you.
First I get up at 5:25 in the morning and eat a single slice of bread with Peanut butter. It’s fukking freezing every morning but I do it anyways. For the entire day I’m starving, but I’m on a 1500 calorie diet and down 20 pounds so far, more than any landwhale can claim.
Then I go to the gym and lift for an hour and a half. This sucks as it’s 5 in the morning and my body is sore as fukk. I lift very heavily out of my weight class bc otherwise I get no results.
Then I come home with barely any time left, shower, and go to work. My supervisor who is a Woman constantly yells at for me for stuff she did wrong, stuff her supervisor did wrong, and stuff I apparently did wrong. Then she goes through it and realizes I didn’t do anything wrong and says I am one of the better workers at the firm. Then she asks me to fix the stuff that she and her supervisor did wrong. All the while I remain calm and composed while stopping my fist from slamming against the wall.
Then after work, I come home, cook my entire family dinner, and help put my poor grandfather to sleep. He lives with us and is 92 years old. Unfortunately he was hit by a car and is partially paralyzed to the point where he can barely walk 5 steps. He has to wear a diaper bc he can’t always make it to the bathroom. As the strongest member of my family picking him up and cleaning up generally falls to me. And whoo boy you would not believe the smells I have discovered.
And then finally after all of this, I relax for about half an hour, take two Melotonin, and try to fall asleep. Meanwhile throughout the day I check up on this site as well as several others watching ppl get massacred by trucks in the streets, innocent men get carried off in chains, and our politicians who can actually do something about it lie and steal and cheat then somehow blame us for all of the problems of the world.
And despite all of that the most I or anyone does here is come and talk about it on this site.
You don’t know a damned thing about discipline. Don’t go to places guns blazing and trying to lead others. Go lead yourself off a cliff.
LEADERS LEAD BY EXAMPLE, NOT SHAMING TACTICS
He who is Brave is Free - Seneca
P~~~ Off you fukking Tuna, you won’t find any slaves here.
He who is Brave is Free - Seneca
Yes I do not believe that most men here live for something bigger and greater than themselves.
Who gives a s~~~ what you “believe”???
If they work and pay taxes, they do already. Their labor is already going to support single mommies everywhere, and the very fabric of society and system that treats them like second class citizens.
So you don’t mind if men enjoy the REST of their labor for themselves do you?
I think you missed a detail, KM: WE pay taxes, that’s why we feel right with our conscience.
HE probably doesn’t pay taxes.Have you ever heard what happen to tax evasors when they divorce? It’s scary and yet funny, because if they don’t want to pay “enough” then the wife report them, then there’s a conflict between the state and “the wife’s holy rights”.
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Anonymous0Why doesn’t the more entertaining kind of crazy come out to play when I’m sleeping?
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