The Tables Have Turned- At Least As Far As I Am Concerned

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

I have recently made a decision. I will NOT give any woman the pleasure of experiencing me…….unless there is something tangible in it for me. Whether it’s a free dinner or a gift of some sort (Bass Pro Shops would be nice).

Why should I give myself to any woman for free? I am still a sexy guy, in the best shape of my entire life. I might as well capitalize on my looks while I still can. In 10 years, I won’t be able to anymore.

No more free rides, ladies. Literally.

 

 

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[EnlightenedMGTOWParticipant 291]

Vagina is still a commodity in itself and personally think it still holds some value. I will spend up to $20 to bang a hot womanif it means investing a single evening and up to $20 in drinks at a bar. I never ask a woman out to dinner and the only place I will meet a woman  is a bar 1 on 1.

I’m the guy she meets at the bar for a few drinks and who f~~~s her brains out at the end of the night after the ol’ simp has taken her out to a nice fancy dinner.

Always try to go back to her place so you can make a quick escape and two, make sure to never give her any information that will allow her to find you.

All in all,  a hot woman’s pussy is worth $20+ a maximum of 4 hours of my time.

I’m sure other men will have vastly different opinions.

Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:

I have recently made a decision. I will NOT give any woman the pleasure of experiencing me…….unless there is something tangible in it for me. Whether it’s a free dinner or a gift of some sort (Bass Pro Shops would be nice). Why should I give myself to any woman for free? I am still a sexy guy, in the best shape of my entire life. I might as well capitalize on my looks while I still can. In 10 years, I won’t be able to anymore. No more free rides, ladies. Literally.

Is there anyone you attempt to have relationship experiences with, unless there is something in it for you?  I just ask that, because if the answer is no, then it is funny you would of gone with separate rules for women, but that is life.  My take is any man worth his salt needs to evaluate how he spends his time, and not waste on things not worth their time.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

No, I actually do not, and have never made a habit out of seeking relationships that would only result in me getting something out of it. But with women? Yes, they DO get separate rules from now on. That is because, men do not want sex from me. Well, I am sure there are gay guys that do, but I am not gay. Women, if they want sex with me, then fine, but there has to be something tangible in it for me. Or else why should I give them the pleasure?

 

 

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I have an idea to start demanding a bitch to cook me a dinner. This should be a great frame to work, since it turns the tables right away and weeds out all the parasites

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[AFTParticipant 2726]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Is there anyone you attempt to have relationship experiences with, unless there is something in it for you?

DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:

No, I actually do not, and have never made a habit out of seeking relationships that would only result in me getting something out of it.

It’s not a financial or material gain, however, analyzing the relationships I have, there is  implicitly a “benefit”, a camaraderie that develops us,  I wouldn’t continue a one way friendship with a leech that just sucked the life out of me offering no reciprocal benefit.  Even if the benefit was seeing a guy develop and helping him understand to ultimately bond into a mutual respect where we help each other see things in a different light.  Much like these forums, I am amazed at how much understanding and knowledge I learn communicating here.

Unfortunately, there is little to learn from women, and much of that knowledge revolves around the depths of their narcissism.  I don’t need to pay for dinners and drinks, and spend hours to work out they are selfish, empty, void of value, apart from that desire to fulfill the physical intimacy my biological imperative dictates.

It’s far better to spend those resources improving myself, for my benefit, any female intimacy that is generated as an indirect consequence is merely a side benefit to the bigger picture, never the central theme.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[cyclesomaticParticipant 137]

DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:

I have recently made a decision. I will NOT give any woman the pleasure of experiencing me…….unless there is something tangible in it for me. Whether it’s a free dinner or a gift of some sort (Bass Pro Shops would be nice). Why should I give myself to any woman for free? I am still a sexy guy, in the best shape of my entire life. I might as well capitalize on my looks while I still can. In 10 years, I won’t be able to anymore. No more free rides, ladies. Literally.

 

When I read your posts, the words have Jeff Bridges’ voice.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I can never get past getting off my ass to even bother trying.

If I’m out and about I may see the odd opportunity …. but lately … if I’m out and about …. it’s because I’m doing something or going somewhere …. so I pass.

It’s sort of like driving a train. I look out see something interesting near the track …. but is it worth stopping this important load for? ….. rarely.

However …. I’m also holding out for a unicorn 😆

[BlackEagleParticipant 54]

cyclesomatic wrote:

DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:

I have recently made a decision. I will NOT give any woman the pleasure of experiencing me…….unless there is something tangible in it for me. Whether it’s a free dinner or a gift of some sort (Bass Pro Shops would be nice). Why should I give myself to any woman for free? I am still a sexy guy, in the best shape of my entire life. I might as well capitalize on my looks while I still can. In 10 years, I won’t be able to anymore. No more free rides, ladies. Literally.

When I read your posts, the words have Jeff Bridges’ voice.

hhahaaha i do that to but i have The Big Lebowski as a narrator

OP i had a general rule for women before my last relations~~~  No more then 10 bucks. and i got laid with 10 bucks.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Russky wrote:

I have an idea to start demanding a bitch to cook me a dinner.

I will still “date” – but it’s a maybe. “Dating” is a casual drink thing at the most. There will be no implied interest in “pursuing a relationship” or any of that romance / seduction horse s~~~. If it escalates to sex (and it’s free) I would partake, but I can take it or leave it. Vagina is no longer a prize for me, but I have turned the tables and dick is her reward. Just that little flip of the script makes a world of difference.

It’s not “what do I have to do for vagina?”….. it has become: “does she deserve any dick?”.
Women are so lazy, most of the time I find myself answering “no”.

You know the “go make me a sammich” thing? I used to think it was a sexist joke, but I now see it as a TRUE unit of measure. For example, if you take a girl out for a drink or three, you’re dropping +$50. F~~~ the $150 dinner. Those days are over. But even still, $50 means you need to work and earn 10X that to be able to throw away $50 on c~~~tails – after taxes and life expenses.

You have to earn over $500 to be able to afford to throw away $50 on drinks.
That $50 is 10% of your income you could bank instead. Women don’t understand that.

Women think “how long to I have to work to earn $50?”.
MEN think “how long to I have to work to SAVE $50“.
Big f~~~ing difference.

So…. if I take a chick out for drinks or sushi, I expect – at the very least – a goddam sammich on demand. A sandwich is asking her for f~~~ing NOTHING. It’s $5 in ingredients and 5 minutes of her time. If she doesn’t JUMP and happily make a sammich with a smile, she’s f~~~ing history now – and I will explain this to her face. The way women expect to be taken out, wined and dined – but are totally unwilling to throw a bunch of dried noodles in a pot of boiling water for you – is a f~~~ing abomination and they should be ashamed of themselves.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

F~~~ing A.

As Bar Bar says to men out there, you are the prize.

Listen to the series in its entirety, as he says it word for word at some point, I just didn’t have time tonight to find the money shot. But what is more important is that all men listen to the entire series.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Value for value, it sounds good to me.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

@keymaster

That’s the exact reasoning that pushed me away from dating.

The example I always come back to is a girl I was involved with long before I wised up, when we’d go drinking her poison was Cosmopolitan c~~~tails, which at £6 a time and added to my regular Jack and Coke at £3.50 meant I was shelling out £9.50 a round.

The UK nation median average salary is £27,200 a year, approximately £14 an hour or ~£9.60 once you take out tax and national insurance, so someone on the average salary has to work for an hour to share one drink with this woman, I wasn’t on the average at that point and even now earning more it still wouldn’t be a worthy return on my time and effort.

At first I tried pushing for equality, but that didn’t work out to well so now they get nothing.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

AFT wrote:

It’s far better to spend those resources improving myself, for my benefit, any female intimacy that is generated as an indirect consequence is merely a side benefit to the bigger picture, never the central theme.

Spend 100$ on books and read them (not talking about books like 50 s~~~s of grey, obviously), see how much you’ll have learned. Then spend 100$ on a woman and see what you get out of it. Kinda puts things in perspective I may say 😉

ILiveAgain wrote:

I can never get past getting off my ass to even bother trying.

Haha same for me, when I see a good-looking chick, my closest reaction to giving a f~~~ is : “What if I asked her for a date? Nah f~~~ it, I have better things to do.”

AFT wrote:

Unfortunately, there is little to learn from women, and much of that knowledge revolves around the depths of their narcissism.

The only thing you’ll ever learn about is them, or other people they feel like trash-talking. It’s always “me me me me me me me me” or “There’s this girl in my class, she’s such a bitch blah blah blah”, sometimes even both. Sorry ladies, but mgtows have no time for this kind of bs.

And Camus has much more interesting things to tell me than you do anway, so gtfo 😉

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Anonymous 25]

When it comes to women it’s WIIFM – What’s In It For Me

 

[BeerParticipant 11832]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Is there anyone you attempt to have relationship experiences with, unless there is something in it for you?

I think for most people, we look for you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours type relationships.  Its not about keeping score and making sure you come out ahead…but we look for relationships that we perceive as adding to our lives.  If someone is a total leech, you are better off just cutting them off.

Like for example…a woman who wants to use you as an emotional tampon, wants to take her bad days out on you, wants you to pay every time you go out, and as already been brought up in this thread something simple in return like making you a sandwich is too much for her to reciprocate with…why do you want her around?  Its not the fact that you are making physical, emotional, and financial investments into a relationship that makes it bad, its the fact that you are making 95% of the investments into the relationship and getting little if any benefit from it….you are better off getting a prostitute or just hanging out with male friends…both of those relationships will be less of an investment on your behalf and have a much better return on your investment.

You really can’t quantify all aspects of a relationship but ideal relationships are symbiotic…there is mutual benefit to all involved.  If you are involved with a parasite…whether it be a man or a woman…just cut it off and move along with your life…its not worth your time or resources when you could be focused on other symbiotic relationships.

 

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

Keymaster wrote:

It’s not “what do I have to do for vagina?”….. it has become: “does she deserve any dick?”. Women are so lazy, most of the time I find myself answering “no”.

That is exactly it man! It’s a different way of thinking and going about things. Instead of “how can I get her to do me”, it SHOULD BE “I wonder if she deserves a chance at doing me.”

 

 

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[BONEParticipant 448]

Man it’s getting to the point to where I’m walking past 9’s and 10’s like they’re f~~~ing mailboxes, when people ask me why I’m still a virgin at 23 I simply tell them with a fat s~~~ eating grin, “no women has deserved the privilege of taking that pureness away from me”. I’ve started to value myself and my virginity to such an high extent, like KeyMaster said, when I’m interacting with a woman I’m thinking “does she deserve my pure dick?” and my answer is “hell the f~~~ no”.

Now I ain’t gone sit here and bulls~~~ y’all and say I’m not saving my virginity for “the one” knowing damn well that doesn’t exist, but another part of me just wants to get it out of my system but at the same time like I said above I value myself way too much to just “get it out my system”.

When you have something that most men my age don’t have you’re not gonna just wanna get rid of it like it’s nothing, at this point of my life I have a better chance of beating battletoads than giving up something I hold very near and dear to me to some random ass skank.

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