The Sugar Problem — Stardusk

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

The Sugar Problem

I doubt many of you aren’t aware of Stardusk, but on the off chance some of you don’t follow him, and haven’t spent as much time being a body geek as I have, there is excellent info in this talk.

Fructose and carbohydrates are the enemy of men’s fitness. Decades of sugar and corn lobbies and subsidies have ruined western health.

I grew up on the food pyramid. Everything about American public health is wrong, especially in schools (for those of you who may have children) and in the “fitness” industry.

Take a listen for a primer on what sugar and carbohydrates do to your endocrine system, especially the delicate balance between leptin and insulin and the reaction with cortisol that exposes you to higher risk of metabolic syndrome.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

The “problem” has been identified for a LONG TIME.

The hard part is getting your average person to change their behavior.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Yep. We’ve known about the effects of high carb diets since before World War II. And yet here we are.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

I don’t mean to sound pessimistic, but I’m thinking that IT will just continue to get WORSE for the MAJORITY.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

I don’t mean to sound pessimistic, but I’m thinking that IT will just continue to get WORSE for the MAJORITY.

People are lazy, stupid, and want to be lied to. Wizard’s First Rule.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Blood AxeParticipant 1179]

Sugar addiction is a tuff one to Break. I see a lot of my little nephews and nieces taking in way to much sugar, just like Me as a young pup. I read the label on the little jars of baby food and one of the top ingredients is high fructose corn syrup, wtf. I guess they start em young with that s~~~. Well at 37 I’m paying for my ways with all kinds of skin irritations. I know now what sugar does. All I can do is try to regulate that s~~~, I still get cravings big time. Damn

Back off Barbie!

[Ja[H]xParticipant 193]

I’ve been fighting the sugar/carb addiction for years now, and it infuriates me. I ~know~ you can’t out train a bad diet, but still I find myself eating that s~~~.

~Insert witty comment here~

[Anonymous 38]

I’ve not seen this but am looking forward to later on my way home.

Not long ago I did a week of just eating fruit. The first 2 days sucked (headaches, nausea), after that it was ok. I felt weak and empty but I can say it was a sort of short spiritual journey. The stillness and observing emotions that arose when I was longing for food and whatever else. But it changed my attitude towards food completely. I no longer eat biscuits, crisps and chocolate like it’s no big deal. They are an occasional treat.

I have a mound of fruit on a bowl of porridge for breakfast. Lunch is home-made soup (totally natural) and nuts. Dinner is roast veg with fish or rice or pasta. Occasional meat (I’m no vegan or vegetarian).

I also discovered just how linked one’s diet is to low and depressive moods. What goes up, must come down.

Blood Axe wrote:

Sugar addiction is a tuff one to Break. I see a lot of my little nephews and nieces taking in way to much sugar, just like Me as a young pup. I read the label on the little jars of baby food and one of the top ingredients is high fructose corn syrup, wtf. I guess they start em young with that s~~~. Well at 37 I’m paying for my ways with all kinds of skin irritations. I know now what sugar does. All I can do is try to regulate that s~~~, I still get cravings big time. Damn

I have the same kind of nieces and nephews. I can’t blame them but my sister (37) should know better.

You can cure a lot of skin issues by fasting or juicing. Try a juice fast (fruit and veg juice) for 30 days. It’s extreme but the results will speak for themselves.

Otherwise just resolve to eat lots of fruit, veg and nothing artificial for one month. And see how different you feel.

I see a lot of people 40+ still with terrible diets. Time is running out for you, seriously. Plenty of people die in their 50s or develop diseases that last the rest of their lives, you can prevent a lot of this by eating right. Food is medicine.

[Blood AxeParticipant 1179]

Anonymous wrote:

You can cure a lot of skin issues by fasting or juicing. Try a juice fast (fruit and veg juice) for 30 days. It’s extreme but the results will speak for themselves.

Otherwise just resolve to eat lots of fruit, veg and nothing artificial for one month. And see how different you feel.

I see a lot of people 40+ still with terrible diets. Time is running out for you, seriously. Plenty of people die in their 50s or develop diseases that last the rest of their lives, you can prevent a lot of this by eating right. Food is medicine

Great advice mgtoaist
Food is medicine, gotta pound that into my brain every time I eat.

Back off Barbie!

[MaverickParticipant 811]

All carbs are not bad. There’s a difference between good carbs and bad carbs.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Since a young age, we were fed sugary food. One, it’s cheaper. Two, it tastes better. Three, and usually most important, it’s convenient for the parents. Most people do not have time to cook meals for their family.

If more people cooked their food and ate fruits, whole grains, nuts, etc., diabetes and obesity wouldn’t be an issue. We also have to switch out crap food for good food. Heck, I would think a Corona beer may be even healthier than a Coke. Switch out the soda pop for decaf/half caf tea. Switch out the processed snacks for fruits and nuts. Switch out McDonald’s / KFC meals with home cooked meals. With this done, we’d be going back to how people were eating prior to the 1970’s. Thus, we’d all be healthier and overall medical bills will drop.

There should be subsidies for HEALTHY Earth grown foods instead of the GMO crap. Yes, I like snacking too, but everything in moderation. Prob. is, the McDonalds’ of the world are huge multi-billion dollar companies with huge lobbyists. Chances are, even if you have a billionaire in the White House, nothing will change. We’re actually killing ourselves off.

All could be avoided.

[mgtowtomParticipant 44]

I was 250 and on high cholesterol meds and high blood pressure meds. My doctor hinted that I would probably end up a diabetic.

Despite his old school advice, I went on Atkins. Hard core Atkins, I followed it by the book. The first week or two was rough, I had to break my sugar addiction. I had headaches, was weary all the time, etc.

One year later, I was 190 and completely off cholesterol and blood pressure meds. My doctor still won’t admit that his nutrition advice was wrong. I tell him every time I see him that I’m still eating all the bacon, red meat, fat, sausage, etc. that I want and laugh at him.

I’ve been keeping it off for 7 years and maintaining on Atkins is easy. I eat all I want. Just no sugar or junk carbs.

The food pyramid is upside down, no doubt about it.

[MaverickParticipant 811]

mgtowtom wrote:

I was 250 and on high cholesterol meds and high blood pressure meds. My doctor hinted that I would probably end up a diabetic.

Despite his old school advice, I went on Atkins. Hard core Atkins, I followed it by the book. The first week or two was rough, I had to break my sugar addiction. I had headaches, was weary all the time, etc.

One year later, I was 190 and completely off cholesterol and blood pressure meds. My doctor still won’t admit that his nutrition advice was wrong. I tell him every time I see him that I’m still eating all the bacon, red meat, fat, sausage, etc. that I want and laugh at him.

I’ve been keeping it off for 7 years and maintaining on Atkins is easy. I eat all I want. Just no sugar or junk carbs.

The food pyramid is upside down, no doubt about it.

Atkins works for some people, not others. There’s no one size fits all diet.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Maverick wrote:

Atkins works for some people, not others. There’s no one size fits all diet.

I haven’t done Atkins specifically, but I follow a similar, somewhat modified protocol. I actually dropped about 50 pounds by running daily, cutting out soda and refined sugar, and actively controlling sodium intake. My current protocol isn’t calorie-based, it’s macro-based. 300g protein, 200g fat, and under 100g carbs. Still no refined sugars or sodas. That got me over the hump from 220 to 205, down from about 265 just a couple years ago.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Gravel PitParticipant]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

cutting out soda

I agree. Great thread.

1. No sugar drinks (soda, sweet tea orange juice, beer, Gatorade/PowerAde are all s~~~) Just drink coffee, water and tea. Don’t drink sugar.

2. Walk or ride a bike at least 1 mile a day, EVERYDAY. Takes less than 30 minutes, you can afford it.

In my opinion, these two simple things is half the battle! I highly doubt you will die of obesity if you NEVER drink sugar carbs and you stay even minutely active.

No one is saying don’t eat ice cream, or telling us to become marathon runners. We just need to start with approachable steps. It’s not hard.

You have to build a foundation for your house first, start small.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

cutting out soda

I agree. Great thread.

1. No sugar drinks (soda, sweet tea orange juice, beer, Gatorade/PowerAde are all s~~~) Just drink coffee, water and tea. Don’t drink sugar.

2. Walk or ride a bike at least 1 mile a day, EVERYDAY. Takes less than 30 minutes, you can afford it.

In my opinion, these two simple things is half the battle! I highly doubt you will die of obesity if you NEVER drink sugar carbs and you stay even minutely active.

No one is saying don’t eat ice cream, or telling us to become marathon runners. We just need to start with approachable steps. It’s not hard.

You have to build a foundation for your house first, start small.

The important thing is to survey where you are and progressively make sustainable changes. Walking a mile should take less than 20 minutes, but if you’re slower or fatter like I was, it’s okay if it takes longer. What matters is that when you walk, you’re taking long strides and pushing yourself. If you can easily talk, go a little faster.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

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