The straw that broke the camel's back [An Introduction]

[ComradeNeonParticipant 15]

Hello to everyone reading and thanks for having me here.

An ancient Greek bit of wisdom goes pathein, mathein . To suffer is to learn. I don’t know how true that is for everyone. But reflecting on the past few years and the sum of events that lead me here, I can say it is true at least for myself. So it goes.

An early nineties born millennial, essentially brainwashed from day 0 about a woman’s role, position, rights and nature in society. You know, ”Treat them equally but with in a special way” and various doublethink oxymorons like these.

For the most part I would abide by these rules, and even held down a couple of relationships, though never more than 6-12 months a time. Whether I broke up with them or got dumped, I would always blame my own flaws. I just couldn’t like her. I’m too jealous. I was too creepy. I just saw her as a friend.
Never ended well.

The first cable to be removed from the blue pill matrix came 2 years ago. I lost my job, car and the ability to live alone as I’d blown my money on drugs, games and other stupid crap. Being the entitled PC ultra-liberal mangina at the time -I make no case to hide it- I decided to move back with my parents. On the plus I had to quit drugs, drink only on social occasions and focus on my university courses, gratuitously payed by them. The sensation of losing independence however cost me dearly. I wallowed in self pity for a while, but now it is apparent to me I must do everything to regain my independent life back. For now I have a low wage job to pay my share in utilities and household needs, while simultaneously blazing through courses and applying for full time jobs abroad, come June.

With retaking my life comes retaking my social status. I purged my old druggie friends and thought I’d hang around people in my academic circles. [Laugh track]
One year ago, I met Y. Y is a seemingly conservative, down to earth girl from the faculty.
Still in mangina mode, my moves get shutdown and I’m reduced to an emotional tampon, to spout endless relationship-problem drivel at.
‘So maybe friendship can exist between the sexes’, I think. ‘I’m kinda past her. I’ll talk to her when I have something on my mind, she will too, and it will be good.’ [Laugh track #2]
This, naturally, fails completely. Every time I come to her with my issues, I’d get a nod, a ‘cheer up’. Nothing more. And then she’s back to talking about herself and her issues.
At this point I begin to see a pattern. Every female I am acquainted to seems to exhibit similar attributes. I’m not quite as ‘close’ as with Y, but even in the small talk, you can tell. It’s about her giving you the privilege to listen.
‘But no’ I say, ‘Not all women are like that. I’m probably reading to much into this’.

And here is the straw that broke the camel’s back.

3 months ago. Y calls. She has something ‘important’ she wants to talk about. By this point I usually begrudgingly pick up her calls since I know it’s just going to be the same old. I do however agree for a meetup, since I’ll be in town at the time she will be too. 18;30. Sure, I have to skip this course, but it’s an introductory lesson so fine.
18;30 rolls around. No one.
18;45. I call. No response. I call again, phone’s dead.
19;00. Still nothing. I’m getting very irritated. People who are arriving late for the course are asking me why I’m outside. ‘I’m waiting on a friend’ [laugh track #3]
19;30. I connect to the internet from my phone and look Y up on Facebook. Online.

Me – ‘Hey, where are you?’
Y – ‘I just woke up’
Y – ‘Wow, I overslept’
Y – ‘I worry about me’
I am tempted to unload the entirety of my rage, but no. I decide to leave a cold response to let it be known.
Me – ‘Ok. Don’t come down, I’m leaving in 5’
Y – ‘Yeah I’ve got to do things here myself’
Y – ‘I need to make a cake cause I’m meeting with my old teacher from ….
I’m not even reading the whole thing, just looking for one phrase. It begins with ‘Sorry..’ and ends with whatever apology. Anything will do. An admittance of f~~~ing up. That’s all.
Y – ‘Oh and tomorrow I have to meet Carly from the camping trip [stupid emoji]
Y – ‘Woe is me’
Y – [something about stupid daily life]
Y – [something about stupid daily life]
Y – [She sends 5 lines of these and ends with ‘See you next week maybe?’]

No apology.
Resisting the urge to throw my phone to the wall, I turn it off, not answering, and head back to my place. There’s a point in anger where even smashing something seems futile. That’s the point where I was.

Shutting her and some of her friends down completely from everything the following weeks, I begin to research ‘toxic people’ and other pop (and non-pop) psychology stuff out of curiosity. Link to link, I come across MGTOW. Intrigued, I begin to read and watch as many videos as possible. All the while, I’m noticing that what MGTOW is saying reflects exactly in what I see about women in Media, at University, in my daily life, everywhere.

So, here I am. I’m not the most learned, but it has become obvious to me that MGTOW has something for me and I’m willing to learn, to listen. You may think I’m just a jaded idiot who’s chosen to be here out of spiteful reaction, and honestly, I wouldn’t be able to tell you with certainty the you are wrong. I’ve only recently come around to these realizations and started to apply them, which I suppose makes me a level 0 to 1. But what I lack in experience, I want to make up in participation, reading, and understanding. You trip over your shoes as a kid, you learn to tie them. With this attitude, I wish to not repeat my past mistakes, and this seems to be the way. To go my own way, and be my own man, dependent on nothing and no one.

Thank you for bearing with me and this long introduction. I hope to see you around.

"Whoever will be free must make himself free. Freedom is no fairy gift to fall into a man's lap." - Max Stirner

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

Socrates, a philosopher that played a major part in the beginning of western philosophy once said: “The unexamined life is not worth living”. I see that you yourself are reexamining your life, and it looks like you made good progress so far. I am happy that you shared your intro to us all.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home and thanks for sharing.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 42]

Welcome ComradeNeon, I read your intro. I’m certain the truth about female nature has bee awoken in you, there no going back once you swallow the red pill, the truth has that effect, it chews and nibbles at your conscience uprooting the brainwashing of deceit at the same time.
The truth’s not pretty, but then again being s~~~ tested and eventually extracted of your resources isn’t pretty either, but knowing the truth and acting on it accordingly will prevent a lifetime of misery and suffering. You’re making all the necessary moves that lead to independence, keep consuming the truth and the answers will majestically appear out of thin air. We can’t see clearly until we wash the sand of deciet from our eyes. Welcome to the eyewash!

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome ComradeNeon,

There was a saying in old time American Western films: We don’t care who or what you were before, partner. It is who and what you are NOW that counts. All of have pasts and regrets. Just remember this: you are among friends here. I look forward to your posts.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

You seem bright enough for a young man , be thankful you’re not an old fool like me just beginning to figure all of this out.

[AttonParticipant]

I wish to not repeat my past mistakes

You can learn a lot about the mistakes of other men, in blue pill hell and the other intros here. From what you have shared I have confidence that you will not repeat your mistakes, or even the mistakes of other men for that matter.
Welcome

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Congratulations on turning your life around, and in unplugging from the matrix. It’s not the easiest road to travel, but there are pots of gold along the way. And you’re taking the trip with good company.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Welcome. Don’t worry about that level stuff; we aren’t concerned with that around here. Mgtow is a difficult thing to describe and it means different things to different men. The one thing that brings us together is our recognition of the way things really are (red pill) and the rejection of marriage. Some of us avoid women as much as possible, others still enjoy their company but know how to tread carefully with that. Some of us like to go monk mode and focus on self improvement, others don’t have an interest in that. The variations of Mgtow are many and hopefully the discussions in this forum can help you figure out how you go your own way.

[Anonymous 24]

Etrangere wrote:

You seem bright enough for a young man , be thankful you’re not an old fool like me just beginning to figure all of this out.

I second this insight.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[VerityPhantomSpectator 263]

Welcome my friend, I myself am new here and what you went through I must have went through at least 20 different times. Keep pushing yourself to be better and never give up, I realized something as of late. And that is we men can tolerate a lot more pain than any female can! And pain makes you strong. What doesn’t break you, builds you… Keep grinding and don’t ever give your resources away to anyone. When every true MGTOW realizes their potential and unleashes it we in our own way become a small power, and if/when we ever decide to unite. We could very well become a world superpower.

[David199Participant 47]

Welcome. A candid introduction.

Get yourself a drink and relax, you’re with friends here.

Kind Regards

[OracleSummonParticipant 179]

Welcome to MGTOW, ComradeNeon, may you find this place like a second home.

Remember that the MGTOW path is a long one and you will need to cut people out of your life that threatens your long time goals.

It is not an easy path to walk, but it is the most fulfilling and the one that will bring true happiness.

May life bring you happiness, fulfillment, and fruitfulness all throughout your days.

[RigParticipant 52]

Welcome.

Try to get as much and diverse of MGTOW approaches as possible. When you’ll be familiar with every concept you will be able to forge “Your own way”.
Remember: it should be your own.

But for now, take pleasure in ‘the rage’. It’s necessary. As someone said “the red pill taste like s~~~”. And it should.

Cheers.

[experiencedParticipant]

Welcome to MGTOW.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 0]

Hey fellow Milennial!

Might I ask where you hail from?

And: Does it ever occur to you that we as Milennials were sold the dream of a better world just for it all to go to s~~~ when we hit adulthood?

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10913]

Welcome brother. You may be angry now but at least you haven’t been shredded my a marriage and crushed by the system. You have a luxury that some of us don’t have (as much of) and that’s time. I estimate your age to be around 25. I am 47 and I wish I was 25 again and since I can’t have that, I wish I would’ve had access to a website like this and the insight and wisdom of the individuals here. Obviously I can’t have that either.
Enjoy the forums. I look forward to running into you every now and then.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[505vikingoParticipant 521]

Think of this as a good lesson learned. My brother in law’s brother and a close friend of his are going through nasty divorces as we speak. Worst part is both guys are older, wiser, and should’ve know better. I hope you learn from yours and many of our past mistakes. Invest in yourself, enjoy a peaceful existence, and thrive on Brother. You will be fine!

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