The Straight Men Who Want Nothing to Do with Women

[chirParticipant]

On the contrary Brian. I have a few female friends. I just do not have a relationship with them other than simple friendship. They have come to the conclusion that they have been “friend zoned”.

I treat women with basic respect I give any human passing in the street. I hold a door open for a man or a woman. If I am treated like dirt I simply walk away. Arguing or getting irritated is just not worth my time.

Many of the older MGTOW were simply called bachelors in the past. Most of us don’t hate women. Those that do simply haven’t pushed past the “red pill rage”. They will get there. Us older gents talk them down from the rage and point them toward all the possibilities.

We do enjoy holding up a mirror and mocking the constant misandry we have leveled at all men. Its a way to say to men here and those lurkers, “Women can be just as bad as men, so don’t leave them on that pedestal, kick it out and let them know we see them with equal eyes.”

It’s sad that there is a generation of boys growing up in this gynocentric western world who literally hate being male. I don’t see any way to change it in my lifetime, but perhaps there will be a new generation of men who are proud of being male someday.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Brian, if you do come back and read the comments, let me add this:

I read something when I was going through my divorce that was very profound to me: If you want something, you have to give it.

Meaning, if you want love, you have to give love. If you want respect, you have to give respect. If you want attention, you have to give attention. If you want to be cherished, you have to cherish the other person. It doesn’t guarantee you’ll get it back, but if you don’t give it, you will never get it.

It’s at that exact moment that I realized that my ex wife gave up on me 10 years before I gave up on her. She had completely stopped loving me, respecting me, giving me any attention years before I gave up on her. Her words to me at one point “I don’t care what happened to you today. I just need you to get home as soon as possible after work because I NEED HELP!!.” Love – no. Respect – nope. Cherish – ah, na. And yet back then I just kept giving more.

And here’s the thing. So many of the men that end up here tell some version of that exact same story. And it isn’t just one relationship for me or them. It’s over and over and over. So here we are.

As far as relationships go, it’s pretty simple. If I don’t receive back love, respect, or attention that I give to a woman, then I will not date her. So far that has excluded every woman I’ve ever dated. Will it in the future? I don’t know. But that is my minimum standard from now on. It’s not my fault if women aren’t willing to give in equal proportion to what they receive.

So if I really wanted to do a fair story on why MGTOW are here, I would mention the outer fringes of MGTOW at the beginning to say that if that’s all you’re reading then you’re missing the real story. All you have to do is go the Introduction section on the website and read about why men are here. And then if you still have no compassion for the people here, you will understand why we respond with a “No F~~~s Given.” Because they weren’t given to us even when we were giving them out. Our pockets are now out of f~~~s to give. We gave compassion and received none in return. In the words of John Rambo, you drew first blood.

Oh, yeah, and my dick is too small

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 22]

I’m willing to bet all their dicks are little.

She didn’t mention how little. Or how big they should be. I’m sure she would like to find out!

Any woman who looks like you is NEVER going to find out how big mine is.

[Anonymous 42]

I bet all their dicks are little

Not as little as cat dicks.

[narwhalParticipant]

Calling us straight men doesn’t really bother me. With exceptions that is true. I get what @KM is saying in that in that it can be assumed, doesn’t need to be said. However, it’s a header designed to draw attention. If it were just men who want nothing to do with women, the common assumption would be that these men are gay…thus, not very compelling. Including that sexuality isn’t the reason is compelling because now you want to know, ‘well why not?’.

As far as the article itself. I appreciate the effort the author put in by seeking interviews and doing his homework. I also think he’s a talented writer. I did not like this piece though. So many things are just wrong or not explaining accurately. It is quite understandable though due to nature of what MGTOW is, and how isn’t really one thing you can clearly define with satisfying detail.

I particularly did not like the inclusion of comments and opinions from non-MGTOW about what MGTOW is. There opinion is bias for obvious reasons, and they are from being in a position to really understand what MGTOW is.

I did like the article for unintended reasons though. I’ve academically understood that you can’t believe what you read on the internet, but this showed me how true this is and that’s not necessarily the author intention or fault. You cannot understand MGTOW after reading an article or two. You must absolutely put in the time and invest in it to really understand it. You must apply it to your real life experiences and see if it matches up. You can’t pull out a sound bite and assume you know what thoughts and experiences that came to that conclusion.

Ok. Then do it.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Anonymous wrote:

She didn’t mention how little. Or how big they should be. I’m sure she would like to find out!
Any woman who looks like you is NEVER going to find out how big mine is.

The only sexual comment I ever want to hear from a woman is “let go of my ears, I know what I’m doing”

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[AsceticmonkParticipant 852]

‘Smitty the Great One, another MGTOW, employed a slightly more combative analogy in his description to me: “MGTOW are the Viet Cong of the gender war. The men’s rights activists don’t like us because, while we agree with them on some things, we won’t be their cannon fodder in a war we know they can’t win. Pickup artists hate us because they can’t make money off us. Feminists hate us because we won’t fight them. And women hate us because we won’t give them what they want.”’

Love it.

[HitmanParticipant]

I have to apologize as I didn’t understand that the article was written by the o.p.
I find it strange that a member here would write that.
I chalked up the misperceptions to a writer unfamiliar with the site.
Now I’m f~~~ing amazed.
.
What was brian thinking about when he wrote that?

[Anonymous 54]

Im the most illiterate guy on here, an Ive been quoted. Nerevar HELP!!

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

I bet all their dicks are little

Not as little as cat dicks.

Nia just said me that she didn’t hate small dicks. 😀
I thanked her for backpedaling so quickly and also suggested her to eat fish, in order to cure her memory losses 😀

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Some of this article is good, but there are some opinions in this piece that stray completely into bats~~~ crazy territory.

On the plus side, it does read as if the author did a bit of research prior to writing the article instead of writing a cheap two bit hit piece.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

MonkeyMind wrote:

Some of this article is good, but there are some opinions in this piece that stray completely into bats~~~ crazy territory.

On the plus side, it does read as if the author did a bit of research prior to writing the article instead of writing a cheap two bit hit piece.

Agreed.
But it’s still way better than the average: usually those articles are written by feminists for the sole purpose of pushing forward the idea that MGTOW is an hate group with no reasons to exist and that should be banned.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

FrostByte wrote:

Mudwhistle wrote:

Lol one of the comments said “It’s because they have small dicks”

I saw that and thought I should bring it over as a perfect reason why woman should be shunned and avoided as worthless trash. You beat me to it! Kudos

Lol their other favorite shaming comment is the loser in the basement one. There are a wide spectrum of mgtow, but if you use your brain and think about it, the guys that gtow are doing so because THEY HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE OR HAVE ALREADY LOST THE MOST.

Many mgtow are highly successful in their careers or businesses and do not want to see their efforts stolen by entering into a bad contract where everything is rigged against you. And to add insult to injury, the other party doesn’t even offer anything meaningful while in the contract. You put in all the effort, while someone else does nothing, and berates you the whole time for being lazy.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Agreed.
But it’s still way better than the average: usually those articles are written by feminists for the sole purpose of pushing forward the idea that MGTOW is an hate group with no reasons to exist and that should be banned.

I don’t like the subtle drive to make us look like homophobs. Tell you what, give your sperm to a woman and when she comes after you for child support, tell the judge your gay. Betcha it wont give you any extra points.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

I don’t like the subtle drive to make us look like homophobs.

^^^^ I meant the article.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Anonymous 14]

Hitman wrote:

I have to apologize as I didn’t understand that the article was written by the o.p.
I find it strange that a member here would write that.
I chalked up the misperceptions to a writer unfamiliar with the site.
Now I’m f~~~ing amazed.
.
What was brian thinking about when he wrote that?

I think he joined simply to post his article and to view our reactions.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

She didn’t mention how little. Or how big they [dicks] should be. I’m sure she would like to find out!

Your basic bitch who speaks like that – and can only bring an IMAGINED penis to her argument – can’t even finish a 6-inch sub… but wants a 12-inch dick.

When she can throat the whole thing, both b~~~~ and AND tickle your taint with the tip of her tongue while singing Happy Birthday Mr. President…. THEN she can lie to herself and say its “small”.

Isn’t it pathetic how women will run from a 1-inch spider screaming about how “OMG HUUUUGE(!)” it is, but a man’s dick is “small”. Sorry ladies if you’re going to lie to yourselves, try and be more convincing. Nobody’s buying your s~~~ sandwich anymore.

Anonymous wrote:

Any woman who looks like you is NEVER going to find out how big mine is.

If a woman is looking at a “small penis” its time to drop the fork and hit the treadmill. It doesn’t say anything bout YOU…. it says everything about HER.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hitman wrote:

What was brian thinking about when he wrote that?

C~~~. Up his ass. his audience is more obsessed with penis size than FACTS.

Hey Brian, cute try but this is never gonna get you laid.
You can find dating sites elsewhere.

What…. is that not funny? Are you not laughing anymore. Would it be funnier and more-to-the-point if we discussed the gaping vaginas of the Hilary voters you appeal to? Why didn’t you say so?

Nathan R. Jessep wrote:

Seriously, I want you guys to start using ‘It’s not you, my dick is too small’ line when you break up with a girl.

That is more brilliant than you even thought it would be. 😉

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Every time you put a pole in a hole it’s not the pole getting smaller that makes the fit sloppy.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

The Daily Mail has now published an article. The author sounds bitter. It’s absolute crap for the most part and not even accurate:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3810707/We-sexless-choice-Meet-men-going-way-hate-women-vowed-NEVER-sleep-again.html#comments

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