The Shaming of Men

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Men are expected to show greatness by those around them. Perhaps this has a lot to do with the history of our ancestors: the men in tribes were responsible for hunting and defending women, children, and the elderly from wild beasts and hostile, enemy tribes. If they weren’t good hunters and fighters, the tribe would die out or get enslaved by another tribe. So I think that’s where the origin of shaming men began: if you were an untalented, weak man, you weren’t respected by anyone, and you probably didn’t get a wife to have sex with.

Maybe some people shame others for their own good and maybe some shame them because it’s amusing. I suppose men get shamed for not conforming to the wishes of their society because they are the ones who are most able to keep their societies functional. Men are needed to protect national borders from invaders, teach their children the values of their society, construct buildings and infrastructure for communities, resolve conflicts, save people during a crisis, and maintain the traditions of their elders. Here are the various kinds of shaming that men have dealt with at different stages in their lives:

1. Shamed for being a virgin.
2. Shamed for losing a fight—even if the opponent was bigger and stronger.
3. Shamed for crying in public when he experiences an overwhelming moment of stress.
4. Shamed for not getting a job or qualifying for a job.
5. Shamed for not having any money.
6. Shamed for not paying for everything when he takes a woman out on a date.
7. Shamed for not having great athletic abilities.
8. Shamed for not knowing how to dance.
9. Shamed for not having a girlfriend.
10. Shamed for not having good social skills—which is relevant to getting a girlfriend and getting laid.
11. Shamed for living in his “mother’s basement” (or still living with his parents as an adult).
12. Shamed for living with a girlfriend and “not making an honest woman out of her” by getting married.
13. Shamed for not knowing how to fix stuff and solve problems (a major expectation of men).
14. Shamed for not advancing his career and spending more time working so he can earn more money for his wife/kids.
15. Shamed for not spending enough time with his wife/kids.
16. Shamed for not being highly educated.
17. Shamed for not having a fancy job title.
18. Shamed for not making a large salary.
19 Shamed for being lazy.
20. Shamed for not doing household chores.
21. Shamed for not dating/f~~~ing a lot of women.
22. Shamed for __________________.

There’s one million ways to shame a man, and he can decide to appease his critics by desperately doing things to win their favor or he can just say he doesn’t give a s~~~. As time goes by, the shaming eventually stops when people realize they can’t manipulate a man who’s adamantly going to live his life his own way. They’ll just move on to the next victim.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[JakeParticipant 909]

I never had any shame for a such a long time never give a second thought on it, its their problem.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

0 f~~~s given, makes you shameless.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

YOU can only be “shamed” if YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO FEEL THAT WAY.

Walk away from societal “expectations” and the like….Their opinion means NOTHING!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[JVBParticipant]

Doesn’t work on me.

Peace is > piece.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Great post. Sometimes we forget how easily we used to be duped into feeling ashamed when we were pathetic little pussy beggars.

Remember what it was like? The constant groveling and seeking validation. For MGTOW, I’m eternally grateful. The Stardusk Compilation specifically, saved me from the confusion and suffering of it all. I will never forget the over whelming joy at finally having it broke down for me to understand. And I couldn’t believe how foolish Id been.

Some ‘get’ it, many are f~~~ing hopeless. I have a buddy who is twice my age, he’s near 60. He is a Mexican guy who has been unmarried and no kids his whole life. It’s striking how he understands that women are dangerous and he always stayed away. Indeed, much of this was common sense to him. HOWEVER, his is pretty left leaning Democrat (not all the way but far enough to be blind). He can’t comprehend evo-psych or hypergamy no matter how many f~~~ing times I explained it to him. He firmly believes we need to “man up” and give women all the equality and s~~~… refuses to see how giving them a bunch of rights is contrary to the natural order of biology and evolutionary honed traits. Its a recipe for all the social strife we see and failing birthrate.

No matter how elementary you break down the terms, no matter how plain speaking you make the approach, some people are Blue Pill to the Gills. There is no helping them. There are even men HERE like this. Who carry on a MGHOW lifestyle, yet still fail prey to egalitarian and traditional conservative illusions.

Man up? Hell no, MAN OUT

[Gravel PitParticipant]

One more thing about SHAME.

It doesn’t have a logical basis.

We live in a Deterministic, Causal universe. Only what can happen will happen. You do not have Freewill no matter how strongly you feel (subjectively) that you do. It’s simply a delusion. You are not “responsible” for your actions, only “accountable” for them.

Reflect on the difference between “responsibility” and “accountability” and you will see that SHAME is a ridiculous emotion that you never have to give pause to again…

[MonkParticipant 17004]

Gravel Pit wrote:

You are not “responsible” for your actions, only “accountable” for them.

If you are not responsible (you are a machine with no free will and therefore no options), then how can you be accountable?

How do you blame a machine for doing what it must do?

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

I’ve found recently that shaming is just another kind of s~~~ test, one that you fail with flying colors if you do not give a s~~~ about them.
Manginas and women alike find it odd that when they start with the shaming, you don’t respond to it in kind, or instead just continue to keep your arguments or what you were doing, or maybe sometimes you turn the game around and show how useless they are, and how pathetic they seem to be, for using shaming against you.

The look in their faces, or how deeper they start to go because you are truly unaffected by their words is astounding! They look lost, they say that “they wished they had such a big ego”, or they deem you as a “sick person” just because their shunts at you are ineffective. In fact, the ones who are weak and small are them, because the shaming affect them deeply, because THEY KNOW that they are EXACTLY like that. They have no self-consciousness.

Be proud of being shamed. When they try to shame you, it is because they RECOGNIZE that you are far better as a person, as a man, as a source of knowledge or work, than them.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Monk wrote:

If you are not responsible, then how can you be accountable?

Yea, I forgot, Im breaking my own rule. Im supposed to shut up about Biological Determinism. No one here cares. LOL

Sorry man. Didnt meant to ruffle feathers.

[Anonymous 1]

22. Shamed for being ashamed

Yup, I’ve been shamed for just about all the items on the list. Not Giving a F~~~ really helps out in the long term.

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