The relief of finding MGTOW.

[YinmarenParticipant 27]

I don’t really have any long stories to tell. I’ve never been married. I’ve been in a bunch of year+ long relationships, all of which s~~~ the bed for a variety of reasons (I’ve ended all but one of them, and the one I didn’t end I was getting ready to). I don’t have a ‘fear of commitment’. I have a low tolerance for garbage. Many of the same techniques that women have used on me have been documented very well here.

I don’t want to say I’ve always been a MGTOW because, for a long time, I wanted a family. The problem I always found was that women were, wholly, unable to have a relationship. The constant drama and the insistence upon it. The cheating. The lying. The stealing. We’ve all been there. We all know it.

What made me realize that I was a MGTOW was reflection on past relationships and what my father went through when he got a divorce as well as how he is now. Essentially, my father, without knowing it, is a MGTOW. After divorcing my mother because she cheated on him, he married again. After she died from her drug addiction (drama, lies about back pain, mental health issues, etc), he said he was never going to get married again.

Now, in his mid 50’s, he’s picked up bass and is playing in two bands. He works, gets money, and follows his interests and hobbies. He visits his family who live in Florida regularly and has a ton of fun. He gets to be around his sisters grandkids (he loves kids) and can leave whenever he pleases. He’s not tied to any obligations and seems to be an incredibly happy guy.

And, after having to trudge through the modern woman, I’ve decided to follow in my fathers footsteps while skipping the three failed marriages.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I don’t have a ‘fear of commitment’

You just reminded me of that saying women espouse all the time: “men are afraid of commitment”. I’ve always known that was bulls~~~. Men commit fearlessly to all facets of life. Business ventures, breaking records set by other men, building, designing, creating, innovating. When I hear women say “Oh he’s afraid of commitment”…… NO. He’s only less willing to commit TO YOU.

“men are afraid of commitment” is an incomplete sentence.

I related to your intro directly because while you aspire to live the life your father IS living,… I’m living as my father didn’t have the luxury of living. When I was 17 I bought him a lottery ticket for Christmas as a stocking stuffer. The jackpot was $100 million,. I asked him all wide eyed… “what would you do if you won $100 milllion??”

I will never forget his answer:

“I would give you 10 million…
Your brother $10 million…
Your mom $10 million …
and I would f~~~ off to my home country”.

Thats exactly how he said it. I never forgot that.
My Dad was a MGHOW in his heart and wanted to be free, but stayed with us until he died.

“Men are afraid of commitment” my ass.
Welcome to MGTOW, Man.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Wow, Wow, Wow, Man Oh Man!

I found extensions to my own thinking in MGTOW! It’s an interface with others that have also rewired themselves to function normal under such adverse conditions.

Rotten women is all that I ever knew; are they all rotten? I don’t think so, but enough of them are spoiled and contaminated. Combined with legal legislation, their value has plummeted into worthlessness. They have become a high risk investment with outstanding data pointing to utter failure.

Men are naturally hardwired to logic, when all logic goes out the window they naturally spark to anger. Men have endured the endless attempt of this feminist society to rewire them into some sort of “Feman” Female man,,,, Does any of this ring a bell???  It’s become think like a woman or suffer their feminist mandated hell!

Hey guys, I’m a 53 year old man that has built his own empire in his own mind, a fortress of knowledge and tools in avoiding female manipulation and subsequent tyranny.

You young guys are fortunate to have us older guys clear the smoke of the woman’s moment. We were it’s first victims, we’re like the victims of mustard gas in the first world war; what’s that yellow cloud; I don’t know, I never seen anything like it before? MGTOW is your gas mask? Put it on to survive this new form of mustard gas!

Avoid all the grenades, mines, mortar shells, and artillery lobbed by the feminist movement. Those of us that have survived intact will never forget the carnage all around us.

 

[MENGINEERParticipant 583]

“He who knows the water best who has waded thru it”

Gaining knowledge from men that have swam thru the sticky swamp of marriage so we can avoid it!

Great story.

[…Spectator 1165]

@yinmaren: I think marriage is for extremely wealthy people and Catholics. I also wanted a family. I attempted it three times in my life and each time the women all ended up the same: 100% completely full of s~~~. The last one cost about 70 GRAND and 7 years later I am still paying off her cost at 23 % interest on a credit card. I am in the same age range as your dad and I can relate to his happiness. He is happy because he is finally “allowed” to breathe again and he’s done with the f~~~ing c~~~s that wrecked his life. You’ll have to make your own decisions. I think the first one you should make is to be financially independent and if you get into a relationship the women should bring a matching amount of resources to the table. Especially in 2015 since the value of a vagina is dropping faster than the price of oil.

[YinmarenParticipant 27]

Well, my outlook has changed dramatically over the last seven years. When I said I wanted a family, it was when I was 14-20. The idea was “All you have to do is not fight”, and my relationships with women at that point had actually been very good. Except for my step-mother who, before she decided to take her final pill c~~~tail (she wasn’t suicidal, she just continued to up the dosage from her cornucopia of meds that she went from doctor to doctor to get), she was actually becoming a decent person. Regrettably, my father knew it too.

For a good number of years, she ruined every holiday, every vacation, every special moment with her incredible neediness and pill addiction. When my father moved to Virginia, things started to look good. And, as they closed on their new house, things were going well. I went for a visit to Virginia to help them move in and, on one of the last days I was going to be there, she decided to start her pill crap again and took a few too many.

My dad was really, really, really destroyed by this.

It was at about that point that I realized I didn’t want a family anymore because, no matter how hard my father tried, no matter what he did, and no matter how good things got, every woman he’s ever been with HAD to ruin every-f~~~ing-thing around them. They wallowed in their own misery and dragged everyone down with them.

Eventually he got over it and is living the life he always wanted. He’s always wanted to play music and he’s doing it. So, I’m sort of following my own dreams and passions while I’ve got the time to do it.

Finding this website and movement has been very refreshing. Since my step-mom died I’ve pretty much held these ideals and thoughts in my head and it’s such a huge relief to find I’m not the only one. I had no idea that this was even a thing until I read The Sexodus. I also found Barbarosa a few years back and found his thoughts and ideals refreshing.

[…Spectator 1165]

@yinmaren: Cool reply and I am listening man. I found out over my lifetime that usually the hotter looking a bitch is, the more they spit s~~~ into holidays, other gatherings, daily life, and the workplace like a Don Quixote style Skunk. Damn….good phrase I just coined there. Putting self centered poison into every situation when the enemy is completely imaginary. What we are seeing now in society is that the VERY ugly, very fat, very stupid females are all claiming themselves to be 10’s when they are at best a 3 or 4. But since they have the internet too just like we do, they are all over spewing s~~~ at anything real or imaginary. Don Quixote Skunk ass punk ass bitchs. Where’s Ninja James right now? Pass me the blunt bro.

Anyway, my dad used to come to me too to discuss all the Feminazi s~~~ that was coming his way and I felt bad for him but I didn’t know how to help him at all other than to ListenUp! I think what the best thing for my own selfish reasons to see in the future is for you to come on here and say:

“Hey ListenUp! I learned to play guitar and sing and now me and my dad are banging all the hot girls that come to see us play. We keep video records, of course as a matter 0f self defense.” S~~~ yeah man, that would f~~~ing make my day. The biggest advantage you have got going forward in your life is that you are a smart motherf~~~er and the light bulb already went on, and now you found us. That was more than luck little brother, that was bound to happen.

[YinmarenParticipant 27]

Absolutely. The adage “Somewhere, somebody is tired of her s~~~” used to only apply to the 9’s and 10’s of the world. Now, you oink on down to the low tier and they think that their vagina is somehow sacred.

The good news is that I’m doing just that. I’m in the studio recording an album with my band, studying and working at my college, and having fun in my spare time. It’s a great life.

[GrefParticipant 203]

Hello and welcome!

Yinmaren said:

for a long time, I wanted a family. The problem I always found was that women were, wholly, unable to have a relationship. The constant drama and the insistence upon it. The cheating. The lying. The stealing.

That’s exactly how I feel man, you took the words right outta my mouth.

[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]

[mikaalParticipant 6]

one of my last relationships ended because of the whole “fear of commitment” issue. In truth though she gave into hypergamy and went with a guy with higher value.

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