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I have a couple of friends that I have hung out with for 30 years. Both of them are have been married 15-20 of those years. Both have several kids. And their wives are sisters. We have a rather close knot group. I am single, never married and no kids. When I see how they are compared to the stories I hear on here and they way I see so many other guys live, I am reminded that I must not just solipsistically rely on my personal experience to determine how the world is.
We have ongoing text conversations every day on just about any topic you can imagine. We hang out and go fishing or do other stuff about once or twice a month. And of course, theirs fantasy football season. (Yes we are jock nerd losers)
Anyway, I kinda find them rather facinating, and I find myself observing them more and more as the years have gone by.
They are married and have kids, yes. And their lives are pretty much geared toward the guidance, provision and protection of that family. They are also pretty good at it, and I guess you could say they are “Good Family Men”. But other than that, they seem very very different than just about every single married guy I have ever encountered. This is where it gets a little weird.
They are the undisputed leaders of their households. Their wives have input of course, but the final decisions are theirs. They are dominant, but not domineering. Their wives have genuine affection and respect for them. Their children are well behaved and are awesome to be around. When I call them to go do something, they don’t have to “check with the boss”. They don’t give me s~~~ about being single and enjoy the occasion tit pic of some slut I bang. When I talk about my dating exploits, their wives laugh and shake their heads. They have never given them s~~~ for hanging out with me and have even hooked me up with a friend a couple of times.
They lack the beaten down slump shouldered, dead-eyed look of Ray Barone that so many married guys get.
Their marriages aren’t perfect of course and have endured their rough patches and growing pains, but the worst emotional turmoil I have seen in the last 5-7 years was:
“What’s wrong?”
“Oh, Christy is mad because I bought a new fishing rod and didn’t say anything.”
“Oh. What are ya gonna do about it?”
“I think I’m gonna go with the buzzbait”.They know why I never married, and they are aware of the “gun in the room” that she could use at any time. They have even acknowledged it. But they say the aren’t worried because they would be fine regardless.
To me this illustrates the importance of red pill knowledge. If I didn’t know better, I would be inclined to think, “Statistics be damned! If they can do it, I can do it!”
They seem genuinely happy in the lives they have carved for themselves, and they don’t envy or pity me the life I have carved for myself. I am just glad that I know better than to try to live like they do because we all here know the odds of me getting that are slim to nil, and the chance that this could blow up in their faces still exist. I think that is one of the reasons our friendship has lasted so long. I am instant dread fame to their wives. They see that their husbands have an example of how being single isn’t a depressing miserable existence for a man, and they keep their s~~~ together and please their men. They see in me that even if the s~~~ blew up, they would have me and be A-Ok. With them, I have a living Exception That Proves The Rule that keeps me in line.
I know it’s a rather long post, but I just wanted to throw this out there. While there’s plenty of AWALT to certain degrees and they certainly aren’t MGTOW or anything like what I would call purr red pill, I just think it’s funny how even with though they have a lot of similarities to your typical blue pill beta married shlub, they are nothing like that at all.
(Yes, I know it’s All A Fantasy And Will Blow Up In Divorce Rape, but I would like to hear some thoughts on why these guys aren’t miserable)
Because they are under control, and their wives need them, at the first moment they don’t need them anymore or show any weakness, sickness or whatever they are dead meat.
All those years of hating them will come out in one day.
And god help the fools.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
93% of marriages end in divorce. Maybe these guys are members of the other 7%? Obviously, they didn’t marry insecure Barbie dolls that need the latest thing on TV to show all their friends. Keep in mind, these are two guys of all the men you have known. They found the right women and that’s good. I never said it couldn’t be done. I just said that it couldn’t be done by me. I’m one of those three strikes guys.
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."
Such a statistical minority as to be an insignificant model.
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
Such a statistical minority as to be an insignificant model.
EXACTLY THIS! And that is what keeps me in line. If I was blue pilled, I would drive myself depressed and miserable trying to have what they have when it is statistically impossible. Without Red Pill knowledge, I would see their lives as something to strive for instead of the statistical anomaly that it is and leave it to them.
I shudder to think of all the misery I would’ve endured chasing unicorns and windmills.
I am just glad that I know better than to try to live like they do because we all here know the odds of me getting that are slim to nil, and the chance that this could blow up in their faces still exist.
You pretty much sum it up here. I know some married couples middle aged and beyond that seem quite happy together(although I’ll never know what goes on behind closed doors). The problem is for every couple I know that I think is happy I know 25 more that have been divorced or are “together” but miserable.
The odds of having a marriage that “works” are pretty slim, and the odds of having a marriage that makes my life better than just being single are even more slim…is it worth rolling the dice? If happiness was a 1-10 scale and maybe I’m an 8 now, I’ve got very little room for improvement but a lot of room for decline…its just not worth it knowing what the odds of moving in each direction are.
Anonymous1Marriage blows chunks.
Anonymous3Both of them are have been married 15-20 of those years. Both have several kids. And their wives are sisters.
Want to bet that the first one to divorce will be followed by the other?
You are witnessing a weird hive mentality effect. Especially since the wives are sisters, they reinforce eachother’s good behaviour. But that works for good and bad…
I have no doubt there are some quite happy marriages, I know one couple myself who genuinely seem to love and respect one another and have 2 nice boys they are raising. Nobody knows what the future holds but there it is. Of course, we all know things can turn on a dime and the state can destroy a man at any time if if his wife decides to turn on him. No guarantees.
That aside, I am not even interested in such a “nice” marriage. I don’t want to come home to any other person in my space. This may in fact be my greatest daily joy: knowing I will come home to a totally peaceful and empty space and my time is mine to do with as I please. I never get lonely; if anything, people annoy me after a short while and I keep boundaries with friends and family.
I have no doubt there are some quite happy marriages, I know one couple myself who genuinely seem to love and respect one another and have 2 nice boys they are raising. Nobody knows what the future holds but there it is. Of course, we all know things can turn on a dime and the state can destroy a man at any time if if his wife decides to turn on him. No guarantees.
That aside, I am not even interested in such a “nice” marriage. I don’t want to come home to any other person in my space. This may in fact be my greatest daily joy: knowing I will come home to a totally peaceful and empty space and my time is mine to do with as I please. I never get lonely; if anything, people annoy me after a short while and I keep boundaries with friends and family.
I know exactly what you mean. Things are going smooth? Great! Not going so well? Too bad.
Either good or bad, I only have to deal with me. And when things are bad, at least I never have those Dread Going Home moments. Home is my refuge. Home isn’t a refuge in even the best marriages if princess is mad that day.
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