The Rebel, Albert Camus, quote on love.

[Anonymous 7]

“The desire for possession is only another form of the desire to endure; it is this that comprises the impotent delirium of love. No human being, even the most passionately loved and passionately loving, is ever in our possession. On the pitiless earth where lovers are often separated in death and are always born divided, the total possession of another human being and absolute communion throughout an entire lifetime are impossible dreams. The desire for possession is insatiable, to such a point that it can survive even love itself. To love, therefore, is to sterilize the person one loves. ”

A bit of nihilistic mgtow.

Most people including myself when have truly felt love for a girl, possession consumes that love. Even if you are blue pill, if you do not believe in an after life, this could destroy a huge aspect of why people get married to chase the idea of possession.

Thoughts

My favorite two philosophies are stoicism and nihilism, what about you guys?

[HitmanParticipant]

Great quote. .
I like some aspects of the Buddhist philosophy. .
Not attaching to things including people. .
“Love” can become toxic when you get too attached to the one who you “love “..
Temporary pleasures are really what it’s about for me now. .no more “love “..
Been there and it sucks. .
Went back and it still sucked..
Went for some more and it still sucked…
Enough for a lifetime. .
Love stinks.

[experiencedParticipant]

Better men will look at it another way, but my take on it is to never allow oneself to become a woman’s possession.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[FreedomParticipant 295]

We have an instinct to mate. On top of that we have pack instincts that drive us to form strong social bonds. This program of our brain drives us to fixate on each other, all so that we make babies and care for them long enough to stand on their own.

Love is nothing more than the neurological mechanisms that make this happen.

I am all about philosophy, and I will concede that many philosophers have analyzed things from too abstract a perspective, believing themselves to actually be the high-level abstractions we use to represent ourselves.

Nihilism is called a doctrine of meaninglessness. But I see it as the observation. A tree doesn’t mean anything. Neither does the moon. They are just there. We impose meaning on to them through the power of our imagination. All meaning, all significance, is the product of conscious creation.

Which is a fancy way of saying that we made it all up. This is only depressing if you are too scared of doing it yourself…too dependent on someone else to come along and tell you what everything means.

In my opinion, the best way to cope is to stare directly into the abyss, and laugh at it.

The void is funny!

It is wise to fear dangerous commitments.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

The first paragraph resonated with me, this forum has given me so much food for thought.

I look back and it’s like looking at another world, we really are conditioned from birth to be drones and providers for women we don’t really like…

Keep it up guys, some amazing insights, views and plans.

What is consistent is how women ‘take ‘ from men always..

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Anonymous wrote:

“The desire for possession is only another form of the desire to endure; it is this that comprises the impotent delirium of love. No human being, even the most passionately loved and passionately loving, is ever in our possession. On the pitiless earth where lovers are often separated in death and are always born divided, the total possession of another human being and absolute communion throughout an entire lifetime are impossible dreams. The desire for possession is insatiable, to such a point that it can survive even love itself. To love, therefore, is to sterilize the person one loves. ”

A bit of nihilistic mgtow.

Most people including myself when have truly felt love for a girl, possession consumes that love. Even if you are blue pill, if you do not believe in an after life, this could destroy a huge aspect of why people get married to chase the idea of possession.

Thoughts

My favorite two philosophies are stoicism and nihilism, what about you guys?

Loving a woman is knowing your going to tap it shortly.

[RoyDalParticipant]

What we call “love” is nothing but a biological urge to propagate the species. The rest is all a veneer glued on it by mainstream society.
I realize I am paraphrasing Camus here but just couldn’t resist.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ZoidbergParticipant 965]

I re-read Anthony de Mello from time to time. One of my favorite quotes:

“So if you stop to think, you would see that there’s nothing to be very proud of after all. What does this do to your relationship with people? What are you complaining about? A young man came to complain that his girlfriend had let him down, that she had played false. What are you complaining about? Did you expect any better? Expect the worst, you’re dealing with selfish people. You’re the idiot—you glorified her, didn’t you? You thought she was a princess, you thought people were nice. They’re not! They’re not nice. They’re as bad as you are—bad, you understand? They’re asleep like you. And what do you think they are going to seek? Their own self-interest, exactly like you. No difference. Can you imagine how liberating it is that you’ll never be disillusioned again, never be disappointed again? You’ll never feel let down again. Never feel rejected. Want to wake up? You want happiness? You want freedom? Here it is: Drop your false ideas. See through people. If you see through yourself, you will see through everyone. Then you will love them. Otherwise you spend the whole time grappling with your wrong notions of them, with your illusions that are constantly crashing against reality.” —Anthony de Mello, Awareness

The Way to Love is also an excellent book of his. Look at this gem:

“Here is a mistake most people make in their relationship with others. They try to build a steady nesting place in the ever-moving stream of life. Think of someone whose love you desire, do you want to be important to this person, to be special and make a difference to his or her life? Do you want this person to care for you and be concerned about you in a special way? If you do, open your eyes and see that you are foolishly inviting others to reserve you for themselves, to restrict your freedom for their benefit, to control your behavior, your growth and development so that it will suit their interest. It is as if the other person said to you, if you want to be special to me you must meet my conditions. Because the moment you cease to live up to my expectation you will cease to be special. You wanted to be special to someone, didn’t you? So you must pay the price in lost freedom. You must dance to the other person’s tune just as you demand that the other person dance to yours if they want to be special to you. Pause now to ask yourself if it is worth paying so much for so little.”

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