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    Now, this may step on some lines because I know some of you guys are religious and I apologize if something in this post does not make sense. Just ask and I shall explain to the best of my abilities.

    Now let’s go through the omnipotence paradox. For those if you who do not know about it goes like this:

    If God can do anything can he create a stone so heavy that he can’t lift it? But won’t that mean that he is not the almighty being? But if he can lift that stone doesn’t that mean the can’t do anything
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    What interests me and disappoints me a lot is that many of my fellow scientists is that they think that an almighty has to play by the rules. If God almighty he can chose the rules. An example would be that he uses his powers to impose a rule on himself and reality is that he can’t lift this stone for the next 60 seconds, but suddenly after 30 seconds he decides to break this rule.
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    I do not see this question this as a paradox which just continues into the eternity.

    I see it as 2 forces from the same being canceling out each other.
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    Now this is just my opinion, but how do you see this paradox as? What do you believe and an explanation would be appreciated.

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    One explanation for all of these questions by those within the religious community is .. “God is beyond our understanding.” They then, often add the text, “You do not realise now what I am doing, but later you will understand’ (John 13:7).”

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    “Omnipotence” is a very broad term.

    Some people define omnipotence knowing everything, but only being able to recall a given amount of information at any one point of time.

    Other people define omnipotence of knowing everything and perceiving everything all at one point in time.

    However you decide to define the word, omnipotence, keep in mind that due to the linear nature of time, someone cannot know everything and perceive everything at one point in time on this plane of existence.

    This debate on information would eventually lead to looking into the Two Dimensional Holographic Theory of Reality and the Computer Simulation Theory of Reality. Both of these theories are real theories that have been researched and the evidence for both these theories is compelling.

    Though, these two theories would take up pages just to explain and talk about. I do not feel like doing that right now.

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    When you find a magic lamp omnipotence is the first thing you wish for.

    If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

    #383343
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    If God can do anything can he create a stone so heavy that he can’t lift it? But won’t that mean that he is not the almighty being? But if he can lift that stone doesn’t that mean the can’t do anything

    EXTRAORDINARY claims REQUIRES EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE to SUPPORT said claim. In my opinion, The above “paradox” is just unsubstantiated blah, blah. To me, this is at most a little bit of mind candy if you choose to entertain yourself with it. No disrespect intended, but I really don’t get the point.

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    Hes God. He’d rent a back hoe.

    Omnipotence is only a problem when people apply it to themselves.

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    All these attributes of a deity are analyzed and refuted in Chapter 2 of George H. Smith’s Atheism: The Case Against God. Whenever you describe a deity, you run into contradictions. For example, The Hebrew God is alleged to have created the heavens and earth. This would be omniscience, or and all-knowing attribute. How can a deity know how to create a heaven and earth and then not know that Adam and Eve would disobey? In other words, they were framed to commit an original sin. If there was no original sin, then there is no need for sending Jesus to earth to save us from it. Likewise, why would this deity not know that Satan would rebel against it? On and on one can go in showing the contradictions once a description or attribute is give a deity. Stop being gullible and believing what was presented when you young and when you were not able question it without retribution.

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    I’m not the omnipotent but I am a omnipotent.

    The creation of a stone is one thing.

    The lifting of a stone is one thing.

    The pulling of a stone is one thing.

    Where the stone exists is one thing.

    Whatever thing you choose to do you do at its given time. You cannot lift until you create. You cannot pull until you lift, etc.

    We as men, create our stone. Only we can lift it. Only we can pull it.

    Only we can decide.

    We can also decide not to create a stone.

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