The purpose of a child-free life

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

this one is for all you Mgtows who choose to life a child-free life.
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MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 24]

From a very young age I knew I was going to do everything I could to never have kids. Made it to my mid-forties and it looks like smooth sailing from here on in. Never wanted the burden of it all…

Freedom > Kids & Marriage

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Anonymous wrote:

From a very young age I knew I was going to do everything I could to never have kids.

i knew that i never want kids starting when i was a teenager

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

Heh. When I was 9 years old my mother asked me if I wanted to have any more children (she just had my brother). I told her that 2 (siblings) is already too many, I don’t want anymore and I don’t want children when I grow up.

That was me when I was 9 years old. Now I am 25 and my viewpoint has remained the same.

I honestly think that boys start out their lives as MGTOWs and puberty turns them into blue pill schmucks. MGTOW is all about finding that inner child that you suppressed in order to serve the feminine imperative (blue pillers know this as growing up and being a “real” man).

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

I used to want a child. But after learning the truth I have no confidence I can bring him up well in today’s environment.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Tao-SkyParticipant 129]

Many married people I know are disappointed in their child and some wish they could return them secretly. I can’t tell you how many poor f~~~s have been working for their family and some malfuncting creature at home for so long that they think getting s~~~ on is what life is all about – today’s kids may not even be there for their parents like I’ve been (live at home to take care of sick older parents).

My family line is ending with me. When I see some poor guy working his but off for a house, and crap his wife wants for kids she probably wanted too (all of which will be taken from him in due time).

I’m happily single with no kids and free. I’ve never been married, almost but I woke the f~~~ up just in time. It’s sad to see the prisons dudes have built for themselves- just walking into the salt mines for some untenable situation at home. These dudes will be the loneliest and sitting contemplating their fate at some point.

Guys with kids can at leest start training their offspring to be mgtow at an early age so they have a chance at happiness- they don’t have to suffer like we did at the hands of the feminine inferno…

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

When I was a teenager, I thought I would one day get married and have some kids. I didn’t really think too much about it until I became an adult and started going to community colleges. I felt such a great sense of frustration with the world at that time that I decided not to have kids. I’m giving myself the option of adopting a child from an impoverished country in the future because I like the idea of giving someone a new life. If I ever take that option, I’d have to have a s~~~load of money first. I have to take care of my life first.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Maybe years ago – having a kid was practical and even affordable but not now. A society in steep decline, a thug loving culture, trash western values spreading east like a even wildfire. Even if you do want a child – why subject it to that crap?
When I listen to one of the office women or mangina cooing over how cute and adorable their toddlers are, I want to show them a picture of the average teenager today. For any of the remaining simps who haven’t signed their freedom and Money away for 18 plus years – that should keep the condom and vasectomy industry hopping along just fine.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Gnostic wrote:

used to want a child. But after learning the truth I have no confidence I can bring him up well in today’s environment.

Agreed.

When a woman asks “don’t you want any kids?”, I realize she can’t think past her own nose. It’s a thoughtless question.

“It’s irrelevant if I want them or not. As a grown woman who can vote, you should know that by now.”.

Just let it simmer for a while.

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Very interesting poster (at top).

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Darth Sin wrote:

I honestly think that boys start out their lives as MGTOWs and puberty turns them into blue pill schmucks. MGTOW is all about finding that inner child that you suppressed in order to serve the feminine imperative (blue pillers know this as growing up and being a “real” man).

i agree with this completely.

puberty is biologically programming your brain to reproduce

puberty doesn’t give a s~~~ about your happiness.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

I’ve passed the age where it’s a good idea to have children. I’m going to be 36 in a few months. I’ve wanted to be father since I can remember honestly thinking about it. I’ve spent my life in the SF Bay Area so 99.99% of women here are completely unfit to be a reliable wife/mother. Only a man and wife/mother have a chance at raising a moderately well adjusted human into the next generation. This generation of everyday people is probably the worst out of the past 500 years. So I accept that I’m a product of a horribly corrupted society.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Have a child is easy, being a good parent I believe that is a hard work.
My parents did an excellent job, specially my mom, she spend a lot of time teaching me and my brother everything, I was able to write and do some calculations before even starting the first year of school.

But for todays families, I don’t think that it’s possible. If I get married, my wife probably will just give an ipad to the kid, and feed it when he/she came to her asking for food, so she will pick a junk food and just throw at the kid, as if the kid is a burden to her. So, better raise the kid alone than with a sick c~~~, but be able to work and raise a child is not something easy.

Single mom’s say proudly that they raise their children “right”, but to me, that is far from right, even far from acceptable. As a father, I would not drop my children on anyone’s house, just to go to a club or have sex with a random person, but single moms do it all the time. They have alimony, child support, and don’t even get near to do what is necessary for the kid, they just give the kid whatever he wants to stop bitching, and that make the kid grow up thinking that bitching is the key to have anything that you want.

I really don’t want to have kids, because for God sake, I won’t be able to do what they deserve to grew up like descent humans. I won’t be able to raise them in the same way I was raised and educated. I won’t bring to life a human being, just for my narcissism and put it to suffer. C~~~s do it because not of the kid, but because of themselves, if I became a father, I will put the kids first, and that will be the end of my freedom.

But don’t get me wrong, if a guy want a kid, have a way to be able to raise his kids properly, like working from home, so you can spend more time with your kids and teach them everything, having a good paying job so you will be able to pay to anything that the kid needs, from medical treatment to descent meals, etc… If is something that you really want, and are willing to do it right, you can be really sure that you will rise a little guy to be a champion.

But a single mom raising a child, like any single mom that I know, it’s a disaster, if the child get anywhere in life, will be because of their own effort, not just to get there, but to not end like her/his mother, miserable, bitching about everything, etc… The psychological aspect is really important, the kid mind is forged by it, their expectations, their behaviour.

And I ask you my wise brothers, how f~~~ed up you think that would be your mind, if your mom f~~~ 2 different guys every week, if she go crawling for them, while she forget you an entire day without food ? What role model you will have, if your mom depends on his alimony and child support to live ? Not having a work. What a girl you will be like, if her life expectations would be go to a club and f~~~ random guys, expect to get pregnant so she will have “free money” ?

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

I knew from a long time now that children probably is not at all in my future, I am not the type of personality to be bogged down by children. I know many couples that are in their 40’s now (happily married and some divorced) that said if they could go back they would not have children ever. In this day in age there is too much stress, things to do, costs to cover, and life to live to waste almost 20 years of it raising a child.

I am a person that has to 100% sure on any big decision I make before I go through with it. When I was in my very early 20’s I was at about 50% until I walked into a Walmart one day to see an hagard emasculated man with 3 screaming kids and a land whale of a wife barking orders as she shoved Mcdonald’s in her mustached mouth. I nearly puked all over myself…. my % raised to 98 at that point.

I am not sure why that % is not at 100 yet, it may be due to the fact that I am in my early 30’s and still have that little parental notion in the back of my head… but it is fading. However whenever I think about having kids It usually always goes like this: No money, no freedom, no sleep, drama and issues galore. S~~~ what would happen if the kid had some sort of mental disability where they could not take care of themselves, that is a life sentence.

I do not mean to knock the dads here that have kids but really it is not for me, now to find some way to shove that 98 to 100.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9550]

I have no patience for kids. I can’t stand them when I’m out and they scream, cry, throw tantrums, throw and hit things. I won’t live with chaos. I rather put my time, money towards my own satisfaction and well being.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[Catch And ReleaseParticipant 133]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

I have no patience for kids. I can’t stand them when I’m out and they scream, cry, throw tantrums, throw and hit things. I won’t live with chaos. I rather put my time, money towards my own satisfaction and well being.

I feel exactly the same way. And the absurd thing is there are people who call this “selfish”. It would be selfish to not want children, not have an interest in raising children, not be willing to dedicate 18 years of your life to support/raise a child but have children anyway. There’s enough of that in the world. The conscious decision to not have children is responsible, not selfish.

And then there are the people that say without kids, life has no meaning or purpose. You are the purpose to your own life, nobody else. I see so many people that have kids, and the kids are their life. They try to live within their means and by time the kids leave home they are in their mid 40’s or early 50’s. They have little put away for retirement, little in the way of common interests or hobbies. If they are lucky their house might be paid off in the next 5 to 10 years. Next thing you know they are divorced and even more broke than they were before. They work into their late 60’s or until their body gives out. Really, there is little to their existence than their children. Nothing else that brings any value to their life.

It is a sad cycle, and so many people fall into it. It’s not for me, I knew that long ago. Just simply making the decision to be MGTOW early, not wanting kids, it gave me direction. More than anything, it was important to me to not repeat the cycle. I learned from my parent’s mistakes. At 20 I knew what I wanted, knew what I needed to get by. Still didn’t know entirely how to get there, but that path is so much easier alone with nobody holding you back.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

excellent discussion guys!

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Lone Wolf83Participant 825]

SolidusX wrote:

I knew from a long time now that children probably is not at all in my future, I am not the type of personality to be bogged down by children. I know many couples that are in their 40’s now (happily married and some divorced) that said if they could go back they would not have children ever. In this day in age there is too much stress, things to do, costs to cover, and life to live to waste almost 20 years of it raising a child.

I am a person that has to 100% sure on any big decision I make before I go through with it. When I was in my very early 20’s I was at about 50% until I walked into a Walmart one day to see an hagard emasculated man with 3 screaming kids and a land whale of a wife barking orders as she shoved Mcdonald’s in her mustached mouth. I nearly puked all over myself…. my % raised to 98 at that point.

I am not sure why that % is not at 100 yet, it may be due to the fact that I am in my early 30’s and still have that little parental notion in the back of my head… but it is fading. However whenever I think about having kids It usually always goes like this: No money, no freedom, no sleep, drama and issues galore. S~~~ what would happen if the kid had some sort of mental disability where they could not take care of themselves, that is a life sentence.

I do not mean to knock the dads here that have kids but really it is not for me, now to find some way to shove that 98 to 100.

I also had a brief analysis of what I was about to do before I underwent my vasectomy procedure, but it just took a few seconds that I knew I was doing the right thing for me.

If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

Age 18 is just the beginning. The real money spent comes after that. I adore my three children. They are the crown jewel of my life. Now being widowed, I would be quite alone and vulnerable in the world without them. But damn they were a lot of work and kings ransom of money.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

It’s nice to be seen as too old and possess too low in SMV for anyone to even bother pushing me to get married and have kids.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[FaxmodemParticipant 1415]

I never wanted them anyway, so why would I have them. I had women tell me I am so selfish for not wanting them. But I tell them, what about the parents who have them, but don’t want anything to do with them. Is that selfish I asked them, They didn’t have a reply. I am much happier being a Uncle.

Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."

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