The price

[WallyParticipant]

Please forgive me, this may or may not be a long post depending on how far I get. I have had too much to drink tonight and it often Leds to too much thought. I have never met any of you yet I feel a kinship and a togetherness with all of you that I don’t have with the people that I am around on a daily basis despit my love for each of them yet I have never felt more separated from them.

I remember watching a Stardusk video when I first found MGTOW called the “the price of the lie” and it really hit home tonight, but I am probably not interpreting it correctly in my present state. The night began with me sitting across from a female friend and coworker who I love deeply, she is protective of me and I her. She was with me the most when I was on the brink of dying and a close bond formed but we both know we can not be together because it would ruin our friendship. I admit I have a kryptonite and it is her. She left at some point, I had mixed feelings about her leaving.

Most of the people at the party I have known for 15 years and love them greatly but felt so separated from them. I am about to pay off my house and often get teased about my crappy car and told it doesn’t fit my lifestyle and what they supposedly picture me driving, plus my clothes were “odd” tonight. I wore a sweater over untucked shirt but was comfortable. I talked to a gentleman about marriage and told him I won’t be going that route and he said but if you do… And I let the conversation go on as he had some excellent advice about rent homes, yet again felt more distant and apart from him. His girlfriend who I am also close too said “everyone thinks you should get a different car that should tell you something, get a chick magnet” I don’t take offense, I really don’t.

Sometimes I feel like it takes a certain strength to go Your own way, I hope I have that strength. At times the road can be a lonely one. Is the price we pay for going our own way a complete separation from our friends who live in a different world ? I have mentioned before my Dad encouraged me to go my own way before he even knew what that term meant and I know it is the path I must follow. I love my friends and family, yet I feel there is a divide and separation between them and me now and I am having difficulty processing it.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[The LudophileParticipant 187]

Wally, welcome, brother. I would like to address your closing question directly and without ambiguity. You asked

Is the price we pay for going our own way a complete separation from our friends who live in a different world ?

The answer is “Yes”. That is the “Own Way” portion of Men Going Their Own Way. Importantly, it means that the path you follow is yours. There are some of us who may be close to the same path, exchanging greetings as we continue. But ultimately the point is that the MGTOW path is separated from the rest of society.

You already sense this to be true. You have stated how distant you feel from everyone else. This feeling of isolation and loneliness will never subside, but will increase as long as Going Your Own Way is your goal. There is a price to pay for this freedom.

As part of a social species, you will experience detachment as a negative and stressful force. But I promise that you will become numb to it and, in time, embrace the freedom Your Own Way provides. It is not an easy choice to depart from the normalcy of your friends and family. I, too, have experienced this melancholy and have only recently been able to channel it into something greater. Stay busy. Stay ambitious. Don’t let anyone tell you what you should and should not be doing/feeling/wanting (including this, I suppose).

Stick with it. Time will grow your strength. Your freedom is worth a little social awkwardness.

"There is no bad weather; only wrong clothes." ~ Scandinavian saying "I'm happy to see that the U.S. is abandoning the savagery and lies of religion more and more each year. I'm sad to see that politics and feelings are taking religions' place." ~ Me "Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. And, above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty." ~ OldBill

[HitmanParticipant]

what is the price we pay for our freedom?
look at what you GAIN before you assign cost. ..
independence.
not needing approval for what you do from others.
self-worth that comes from achievements you do.
confidence as time shows you that you can handle anything .
strength,deep strength you build inside.
financial stability from not spending money needlessly ..
comradery with the men here who will give the best advice available.
SO…what’s that worth to you my friend ?

[MecklotParticipant 608]

Wally wrote:

His girlfriend who I am also close too said “everyone thinks you should get a different car that should tell you something, get a chick magnet”

Hypergamous bulls~~~ alert! Wally, this is one of the many reasons why going your own way is the right way. Only look and pursue ventures that benefit you, and only you.

Listen to her, and you will be stuck with a bitch that you have to wake up and answer to everyday for the rest of your miserable life!

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

There is no “price” in going your own way!

You only gain freedom from gynocentric bulls~~~!

You’re free from all the debt the blue pill world gives you. You’re free from nagging girlfriends, wives, and other women. You’re free from manginas and white knights. You’re free to do as you please and to tell anyone who doesn’t like it to “f~~~ off!”

If anything, taking the red pill means you’re paid in the lump sum of freedom to do whatever the f~~~ you want! You’re free from all the gynocentric bulls~~~!” And it doesn’t cost you a dime!

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Who told you that ‘their’ way is the right way?

You have been sold a lie. As you slept the rules were changed. The contract was doctored … and your signature forged.

YOU ARE THE PRIZE not them.

You are stronger, more intelligent, higher earning, independent and mgtow.

YOU ARE THE FKING PRIZE.

They are lost without you … us.

When the s~~~ hits the fan …. it is you/us that they turn towards for help.

UNTIL THEY ADMIT THEY’RE WRONG … YOU … WE … US WALK AWAY.

There is no traditional world with mgtow.

There is no going back with mgtow.

There is no forgetting with mgtow.

Until they understand that a new … REAL … equality is in place … mgtow walk away.

There is NOTHING wrong with you. You feel like this because you’ve been sold a pup.

YOU ARE A FKING GOD AMONG FOOLS.

Waste not one more breath on them.

RISE UP AND BECOME FKING AWESOME.

The fools will come worship at your feet.

RISE UP MY BROTHER AND WALK ASIDE GREAT MEN ON THE PATH.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8289]

Hey Wally,

I think the price we pay to be MGTOWs is worth it in the long run. Keep doing what you’re doing. You should be proud of yourself for getting out of debt and managing your money wisely. If you save & invest, you may be able to buy a whole fleet of “chick magnets” instead of just one.

It seems to me that we MGTOWs have this dilemma to deal with:

On the one hand we’re going to be shamed or embarrassed by people who take the blue pill—thus feeling a sense of alienation as a result.

On the other hand, taking the red pill will open our eyes to THE REAL WORLD so we can protect our well-being (especially our financial well-being) while preparing ourselves to deal with the s~~~ty society that’s slowly metastasizing in front of us.

Believe me, sometimes I feel like swallowing the blue pill and pretending that everything is going to be fine in the future, but I just can’t remain in a state of denial forever. The evidence of marital doom is overwhelming considering the selfish society we live in. The red pill may have a bitter aftertaste, but I think it’s better than the sugar-coated blue pill if you end up feeling lonely in a bad marriage.

Perhaps, as more men get sick of the status quo, we’ll form MGTOW social clubs in private buildings. Until then, I think it’s best to keep taking the red pill and sharing your thoughts here. As Sandman says: a red pill a day keeps the psycho feminists away (or something akin to that).

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU, AND I HOPE YOUR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE WILL COME TO FRUITION.

—FunInTheSun

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Wally:

Seven decades of freedom here will affirm every one of the suggestions above. Those guys advising you have been through the fire and they are not about to BS you. Drive whatever vehicle pleases YOU and that you can afford without any debt. You will not be lonely when you realize that you don’t need the approval of others or need to manipulate them to get anything.

You’re free from all the debt the blue pill world gives you. You’re free from nagging girlfriends, wives, and other women. You’re free from manginas and white knights. You’re free to do as you please and to tell anyone who doesn’t like it to “f~~~ off!”

Fearless MGTOW has summed up the PAYOFF in one paragraph above.

[WallyParticipant]

Gentlemen, Each of you has offered exactly what I needed to hear, it’s what I love about this community. Thanks, to all of you.

FearlessMGHOW wrote:

There is no “price” in going your own way!

You only gain freedom from gynocentric bulls~~~!

You’re free from all the debt the blue pill world gives you. You’re free from nagging girlfriends, wives, and other women. You’re free from manginas and white knights. You’re free to do as you please and to tell anyone who doesn’t like it to “f~~~ off!”

If anything, taking the red pill means you’re paid in the lump sum of freedom to do whatever the f~~~ you want! You’re free from all the gynocentric bulls~~~!” And it doesn’t cost you a dime!

Exactly

I did try to have fun with it showing them what I was thinking of getting

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[RoyDalParticipant]

The human herd rejects men who refuse to conform, and it even turns on them with spite and malice. Get used to it. It is a high price to pay, but it is nothing compared to the price of obedience to groupthink.

Go your own way. The herd be damned!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[WallyParticipant]

Thanks RoyDal, I always appreciate what you have to say, there is a high price to pay but I see that it’s worth it.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

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