The Paradox that is Marriage

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

My thoughts on the subject inevitably arise from my own experience and whilst being personal to me, they might resonate with others here.

Marriage when working well, i.e. a man and a woman working together for a common cause (their mutual benefit) is great but when it does not work (for individual benefit) then it is a living hell from which you cannot easily escape unscathed.

In my own case I had a great few years which were finally blessed with two healthy daughters who appear to have grown up to be nothing like their mother (although I will acknowledge that until they get into a serious relationship with a man this statement is merely a guess).

However as with nearly all marriages the external influences on my ex wife from her parents and man hating friends convinced her that I should be brought to heel like a disobedient dog. As most of us here have probably been guilty of, I put up with s~~~ from the woman just for the sake of a quiet life and by doing so, little by little I gave her the false impression that the word “Welcome” was somehow tattooed on my back. That was when it all turned to rat s~~~ and I left.

Now the paradoxical part of all of this is that I should have ended the marriage sooner than I did but by putting up with years of s~~~, I was able to father two daughters who I have hopefully raised to appreciate the value of a well balanced symbiotic relationship with a man. If I had departed from the marriage prior to the children being born then the world would have been deprived of two women who can (hopefully) actually see the value in a man and realise that a man and a woman are meant to complement each other rather than compete with each other.

A paradox indeed.

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome brother

[Anonymous 13]

I was able to endure it just long enough for my daughter to get to University. The sheer scale of abuse I took was off the f~~~ing charts.

The death penalty would be too good for that evil c~~~.

Never. F~~~ing. Again.

[UntamedParticipant]

I fall nearly in the same line as you, MadBiker. I, too, have daughters who are nothing like their mother. I attribute that to quality time spent developing unbreakable bonds. Only I don’t see a paradox there. The paradox would have been if we’d stayed which proves that marriage isn’t really what you and I and million others experienced. What we experienced is Manipulation on a grand scale that started before our time. We were asleep while feminists were plotting Men’s demise. We only woke up when the fire got too hot under our asses!
You call this Marriage?

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[bladeParticipant]

I have daughters . My 13 year old prefers my info on boys more than ex wonder c~~~ . Younger one is becomming the same and has always wanted to live with me . I had her on my own when she a toddler . Bond is strong . My 13 year old is p~~~ed at what happened . Getting older so she can see it was f~~~ed what mummy did and is still doing . I just sit and wait as s~~~ unfolds as far as ex goes . But those that have created this i will not go away and will be coming . Two and a half years since my last family court . Still been f~~~ed with to this day . Gagged by courts

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 13]

MadBiker wrote:

Marriage when working well, i.e. a man and a woman working together for a common cause (their mutual benefit) is great but when it does not work (for individual benefit) then it is a living hell from which you cannot easily escape unscathed.

I agree. In theory, when it’s working well it feels great and like you might have a partner for life. That first three to five years I got was long enough to feel safe and like you might go the distance. You become fully invested.

The trouble was the following twenty years after that where it did not work, and was a pure living hell. I stayed for my daughter.

I’ve been trying to get divorced for two years now. Another two years of my life gone and nothing but f~~~ing abject misery, financial destruction and hell on top of the last twenty miserable years of the marriage.

The whole thing is a f~~~ing nightmare, a sham and a disgusting abuse of men.

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

I feel you pain Spirit

I married in 1984 stayed for 16 years till the fighting became too much and I saw how it was affecting my daughters so I took the decision to leave for their emotional and metal health. That was 2000, I just managed to get divorced from her in 2016.

Thankfully, like you I managed to create a strong relationship with my kids and we are fine now.

I told my female lawyer in 2000 that my ex was on medication for depression, mixing them with 2 bottles of wine a night and she was not a good role model for my kids. However, she told me that attempting to get custody over the mother was pointless unless she was going to prison for a serious crime and even them she would automatically get them back if she got out.

After 35 years of work I am left with about 40k once I sell my house and pay off my mortgage. She has not worked more than 20 hours a week since 1990 and pocketed 240 k when she sold the marital home last year. At least i have the solace in knowing that when the pill popping and drinking catch up with her my kids will eventually get what hey are due from her.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

MadBiker wrote:

However as with nearly all marriages the external influences on my ex wife from her parents and man hating friends convinced her that I should be brought to heel like a disobedient dog. As most of us here have probably been guilty of, I put up with s~~~ from the woman just for the sake of a quiet life and by doing so, little by little I gave her the false impression that the word “Welcome” was somehow tattooed on my back. That was when it all turned to rat s~~~ and I left.

The paradox is that, when she is trying to get you to the alter, it’s you and her against the world. Once you say I Do, it’s her and world against you. The average woman doesn’t have the sack to tell other people to f~~~ off. She expects you to take her side no matter what the rest of the world is telling you, but she expects you to bend to the world no matter what you are telling her.

The dictionary wouldn’t need the word hypocrite in it if it weren’t for women.

Order the good wine

[AutoliteParticipant]

Marriage today is just an outdated concept. It just isn’t practical or workable any more in the modern world.

It was probably last okay when husbands went to sea for seven or eight years at a stretch and died at age 30 anyway…

[Anonymous 13]

Madbiker, we could be talking about the exact same woman c~~~.

The wine, the pill popping, the man hating friends who convince her you’re just another man who should be hated and abused.

F~~~ing snidey, sneaky, lying c~~~s the whole damn lot of them.

AWALT.

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

What kept me sane, my motorbike and my two close mates. Despite her insistence they are the only things i never gave up for her and they saved me.

[Anonymous 13]

MadBiker wrote:

What kept me sane, my motorbike and my two close mates. Despite her insistence they are the only things i never gave up for her and they saved me.

I was always going off for long days out on my bikes, they were my sanity throughout the hideous ordeal.

Nothing annoys me more when I see on an advert for bike or a car sale

‘wife forces sale’

What, she got a gun to your head? Tell her to f~~~ off and die. Controlling c~~~s.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Madbiker, we could be talking about the exact same woman c~~~.
The wine, the pill popping, the man hating friends who convince her you’re just another man who should be hated and abused.

A couple of years ago some friends of mine and my ex were having trouble. It looked like they were going to get divorced. Here’s the conversation:

It looks like they are going to get a divorce.
That sucks. That’s too bad.
It’s ok. They have plenty of money.

Really? What a bitch! As long there is plenty of money to split, who gives a s~~~ right? Oh yeah, and ONLY HE works. So it’s splitting HIS hard earned money.

Actually, I meant the fact that they can’t work it out. I wasn’t talking about money.
Oh yeah, that is too bad.

And for the record, my ex LOVED mixing wine with anti-depressants.

Sugar and spice gentlemen, sugar and spice….

Order the good wine

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

Seems like they all fell out from the same broken mould with their wine and prozac habits

[Anonymous 13]

MadBiker wrote:

Seems like they all fell out from the same broken mould with their wine and prozac habits

Prozac, wine, bad mouthing gossips who put you down behind your back. Lying, cheating and all round general c~~~ish behaviour. Utter c~~~s.

AWALT.

[bladeParticipant]

My ex had a secret codine habbit . Popped panadiene forte like f~~~ing lollies .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

I made a major decision about 2 years ago and I have found that this works for me. If I need the company of a woman I am quite happy to pay for it and by that I do not mean take a girl out for a meal on the off chance I might be rewarded by some average sex and or a sexual assault complaint being made against me. No I mean pay a professional girl for her time. Now I know that might not sit well with some folks but I have decided that from now on that’s my path. As far as I am concerned women now fall into the same category as a beer, when i want one i shall buy one and if I don’t I won’t. No giving them the power to decide if they will condescend to provide some sex or not, no emotional ties, just empty sacks and a smile.

[Anonymous 13]

blade wrote:

My ex had a secret codine habbit . Popped panadiene forte like f~~~ing lollies .

They all f~~~ing swallow 30/500 cocodamol pain killers like smarties.

Must be to try and mask the pain of the pretense they have to put on when with you.

Then they are fully addicted, and if they miss a few they turn into even bigger c~~~s.

They’re all just the same c~~~ program.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I was involved with a woman who was shopping pharmacies for oxycodone pills… she’d wear one out then move on to the next. I have no idea how many she’d gone through before she tried to involve me in it but finding out that she was addicted to pain killers was the last straw… the last of far too many, I might add.

Women live for pleasure and comfort. All they want is your protection and provision. Regardless of what they may say to the contrary, they can not take pain, suffering, austerity or compromise. Refuse to capitulate to a woman’s desires and you can expect her to move on to some other guy who is willing to give her what she wants.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Any guy considering marriage should check out the movie “Very Bad Things”. Best wedding picture ever made… 😀

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124198/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_43

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