The New China – US Trade War : A Matter of Survival

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    Ranger One
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    This is why the globalists want to take the guns from the people because the U.S. is on the verge of a class warfare revolution

    You are right as usual – I see gun control as THE key item that needs to be carried out before the real fun begins.

    The reason why I have the # of weapons I have (and will hide them in the face of “gun control”) is so I can help arm the dumbasses that will allow themselves to be disarmed.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #776300
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    Y_
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    The reason why I have the # of weapons I have (and will hide them in the face of “gun control”) is so I can help arm the dumbasses that will allow themselves to be disarmed.

    They who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.

    I do believe the time will come when your guns (or lack of them!) will make or break the US Constitution.

    #776305
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    Y_
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    At a annual $500 billion dollar trade deficit with China, the U.S. has nothing left to lose with a trade war with China.

    The problem as I see it – and I will cover this somewhere else – is that the US cannot have an export economy as long as it is the World Reserve Currency.

    The necessity of creating debt and passing this inflation off to the rest of the world to fund the Military Industrial Complex requires the US to have massive budget deficits.

    The US trade (and consequentially budget) deficit has nothing to do with any specific country. It is a product of US policy.

    #776310
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    Faust For Science
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    The problem mas I see it – and I will cover this somewhere else – is that the US cannot have an export economy as long as it is the World Reserve Currency.

    The fun part is without the greenback as the de facto world reserve currency the globalists cannot fund the welfare states they use as voter plantations.

    China is already making moves to have the Yuan become the new world currency.

    #776313
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    The fun part is without the greenback as the de facto world reserve currency the globalists cannot fund welfare states they use as voter plantations.

    China is already making moves to have the Yuan become the new world currency.

    Yes the Greenback paradox never ceases to amaze me even now.

    China has no intention of making their currency the World Reserve Currency – for a number of reasons we can go into in another post specifically for that.

    What they want is to get out of the dollar hegemony and as a bonus hasten the demise of the dollar.

    The replacement World Reserve Currency is already in-place.

    It is the blockchain variant of the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) aka World Money – printed by the IMF and issued to sovereign nation states to be used soley for international trade. It is most possibly backed by gold – it is not clear yet.

    When – not if – this happens the US Federal Reserve Note will be replaced by a new US Dollar standard for domestic use.

    The days of King Dollar will be finally over – I think with hardly a wimper.

    #776329
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    It'sallbs
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    It is the blockchain variant of the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) aka World Money – printed by the IMF and issued to sovereign nation states to be used soley for international trade. It is most possibly backed by gold – it is not clear yet.

    #

    Do you believe that is only the start and it will become the single world currency as the world goes cashless?

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #776332
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    Y_
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    Do you believe that is only the start and it will become the single world currency as the world goes cashless?

    You are a wise man my friend.
    Yes – this is the ultimate cashless society in action.
    Whether it is based on debt or on gold no one knows yet.
    If it is not on gold we are soooo screwed – again.

    I believe China and Russia will oppose the fiat system and champion the gold reserve standard.

    #776333
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    Faust For Science
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    China has no intention of making their currency the World Reserve Currency – for a number of reasons we can go into in another post specifically for that.

    China is backing their Yuan with gold and can case by case refuse to accept foreign currency from foreigners. Such as refusing hundreds of trillions of “printed” U.S. dollars.

    It is the blockchain variant of the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) aka World Money – printed by the IMF

    I disagree. It is likely the main sticking point is the IMF do not want to redeem the hundred of trillions of “printed” U.S. dollars that were given to the globalists. While the IMF board members are globalists, they do not want to assume that much of a toxic currency.

    Also, SDR only applies to member states of the IMF, and SDR cannot be given to individuals.

    The globalists printed themselves more money in U.S. currency than there is wealth in the world and they have no way to offload this currency.

    One of the few ways the globalists can try to offload their toxic currency is to turn the U.S. into an open debtors colony like they turned Greece into, but that will not work as long as the American people are armed to the teeth.

    It has reached a point any way used to collapse the system destroys their welfare state system of control while empowering the nationalists.

    #776336
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    Y_
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    I disagree. It is likely the main sticking point is the IMF do not want to redeem the hundred of trillions of “printed” U.S. dollars that were given to the globalists. While the IMF board members are globalists, they do not want to assume that much of a toxic currency.

    When a reset happens (like in 1944 at Bretton Woods) all the countries come together and set out a plan for the new standard.

    The reason for China and Russia in amassing gold is to get a front seat at the IMF table. The US will be a player and they know this – despite the crash of the US currency they have 8000 tonnes (questionable) of gold.

    The printed currencies of the world (not just the US FR note) cannot be disowned as collectively they represent wealth.

    In economics the total wealth at any time must be maintained or there will be a worldwide depression as currency is deflated.

    This happened before in the UK after WWI when Winston Churchill as Chancellor of the Exchequer decided to return to the gold standard discounting all the excess printed money during the war. The pound sterling was deflated. That was the start of the UK depression that lasted until Bretton Woods.

    it is interesting to note that the person who advised Churchill against deflating the pound and increasing the price of gold to allow for the printed money was none other than John Maynard Keynes.

    No – the printed money has to be accounted for or the world banking system would become illiquid overnight.

    The price of gold will be reset to keep the backed paper cash flows mildly inflationary. That’s why gold is being hoarded by Central banks and large sovereign wealth funds.

    Do not expect the imbalance of the wealth already stolen to be returned to the people by returning to the gold standard. It cannot. The wealth will gradually be redistributed as the new system takes hold to reward production not money printing.

    Got gold?

    #776338
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    Anonymous
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    Shipping containers are designed to be stacked on each other, not to be buried in the ground.

    Agreed, however, with their corrugated construction, reinforcement can be added to the outside with concrete and re-bar or timber bracing on the inside like a mine shaft, otherwise the roof and sides will likely cave in. I build and modify s~~~ way past specks! Beyond acquit reinforcement the important thing is waterproof and to dehumidify, and for a real fallout shelter, passive and manual filtered ventilation is a must! Two weeks underground waiting for atomic isotopes to decay isn’t forever! You’ll be allot better off than those who are radiated. Their skin will be black and blistered with hair falling out when you come out from under!

    #776339
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    It'sallbs
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    like they turned Greece

    Greece should never have joined the EURO.

    The dangers of a single currency were plain for everyone to see following the the 1992 recession in Britain caused by the ERM.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #776343
    Y_
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    Greece should never have joined the EURO.

    The dangers of a single currency were plain for everyone to see following the the 1992 recession in Britain caused by the ERM.

    This is what happens when you eat too many olives.

    #776344
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    Ranger One
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    like they turned Greece

    Greece should never have joined the EURO.

    The dangers of a single currency were plain for everyone to see following the the 1992 recession in Britain caused by the ERM.

    Well, s~~~.

    For that matter, any of the PIIGS.

    (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain)

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #776350
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    Ranger One
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    like they turned Greece

    Greece should never have joined the EURO.

    The dangers of a single currency were plain for everyone to see following the the 1992 recession in Britain caused by the ERM.

    I wonder how much money it costs a tourist to get laid in Greece? I might try me some Greek poon if I get out that way sometime.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #776351
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    It'sallbs
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    Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain)

    Ireland is an interesting one -look into AngloIrish bank.

    Ireland was also the only country given a vote on The Lisbon Treaty-denying 500 million people a vote.

    Ireland held a referendum on it and said no so they made them have another vote and bribed them until they said yes.

    The collapse of the housing bubble in Ireland was extreme.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #776355
    Y_
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    The collapse of the housing bubble in Ireland was extreme.

    I love the Irish really – it is sad they have had two economic fatalities within a century – the Potato Famine uprooted entire families to the New Wold and from which they have never fully recovered. And now this. Plus the immigrants. I hope they can hold out.

    #776444
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    Faust For Science
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    I disagree. It is likely the main sticking point is the IMF do not want to redeem the hundred of trillions of “printed” U.S. dollars that were given to the globalists. While the IMF board members are globalists, they do not want to assume that much of a toxic currency.

    When a reset happens (like in 1944 at Bretton Woods) all the countries come together and set out a plan for the new standard.

    The reason for China and Russia in amassing gold is to get a front seat at the IMF table. The US will be a player and they know this – despite the crash of the US currency they have 8000 tonnes (questionable) of gold.

    The printed currencies of the world (not just the US FR note) cannot be disowned as collectively they represent wealth.

    In economics the total wealth at any time must be maintained or there will be a worldwide depression as currency is deflated.

    This happened before in the UK after WWI when Winston Churchill as Chancellor of the Exchequer decided to return to the gold standard discounting all the excess printed money during the war. The pound sterling was deflated. That was the start of the UK depression that lasted until Bretton Woods.

    it is interesting to note that the person who advised Churchill against deflating the pound and increasing the price of gold to allow for the printed money was none other than John Maynard Keynes.

    No – the printed money has to be accounted for or the world banking system would become illiquid overnight.

    The price of gold will be reset to keep the backed paper cash flows mildly inflationary. That’s why gold is being hoarded by Central banks and large sovereign wealth funds.

    Do not expect the imbalance of the wealth already stolen to be returned to the people by returning to the gold standard. It cannot. The wealth will gradually be redistributed as the new system takes hold to reward production not money printing.

    Got gold?

    More like got firearms?

    First things the elitists will ban for the common people are firearms and ammo.

    Next the things the elitists will ban for the common people are gold, silver, previous metals and stones, wealth and property.

    The plan is likely to redeem the globalists held currency a hundred pennies to the dollar, but redeem the common people held currency one penny to the dollar.

    That will not work as long as the American people are armed.

    While the major urban U.S. populations have become disarms, passive fascist drones in everything but name, the rest of the U.S. population has become heavily armed workers communists in everything but name. And these armed people are one step from a workers revolution. The only reason they have no revolted is because the person the voted for, President Trump, is driving insane those they oppose.

    #776623
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    KevinStyles
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    Doesn’t china hold most of our debt? I mean all they ahve to do is call in all those debts and bankrupt the USA and our credit rating will take a huge s~~~ and our dollar will become like a Peso.

    #776720
    Y_
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    While the major urban U.S. populations have become disarms, passive fascist drones in everything but name, the rest of the U.S. population has become heavily armed workers communists in everything but name. And these armed people are one step from a workers revolution. The only reason they have no revolted is because the person the voted for, President Trump, is driving insane those they oppose.

    Agreed and agreed. Thank you.

    #776763
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    743 roadmaster
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    I suspect that China is already in talks looking to make a deal. South Korea did early on and is in prime trading position. The US being the land of profits.
    I also suspect that the smoke screen China is putting up now(tariffs on US items) is just that, Unlike China where the government gets a part of the action of people investing into China,…in the US it is all business. China can come in and make steel and aluminum here and have it counted as native. Who is going to say different when Bethlehem steel gets a new business partner.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

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