The Nature of Women that all men knew about before feminism.

[superMGTOWSpectator 15]

sidecar wrote:

Oppressing women is too much work. It’s soooo much easier just walking away and leaving them to feed themselves for a change. More fun too.

Agreed. It would be too much work and MGTOW is the best way to go, period

[superMGTOWSpectator 15]

sidecar wrote:

Yeah, I’m not really happy about the feminism bait either. I’m just hoping it’s coming from youthful naïvety instead of feminist trojan straw-manning.

“feminism bait”Please tell me what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous 5]

superMGTOW wrote:

“feminism bait”Please tell me what you’re talking about.

He’s talking about your cobwebbed vagina

And thanks for telling us about the ideologies preached by feminism.
It’s all very well put together, like all cult indoctrination.
It’s no wonder morons who can’t get the attention they think they’re entitled to buy all that nonsense about how “oppressesd” they are.

Just wait till you hit the wall in the real world without a man to support your “Sex in the City” thinking.
You’ll know what oppression is all about then.
Keep believing and regurgitating that s~~~,,,,,,,,,,,it’ll save countless guys who’ll think twice about any NAWALT routines they encounter.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

I didn’t go with youthful naivety because honestly… the youth and the knowledge don’t coincide. This individual knows WAY to much about female persecution throughout history, and has made ZERO mention of ANY male persecution.

So no, I don’t buy it. Maybe it’s a terrible coincidence for this user, but it reeks of trap.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

superMGTOW wrote:

Please tell me what you’re talking about.

All this “women must be oppressed”, “women must be controlled”, “societies are only successful when women are oppressed” stuff you keep going on and on and on about.

Women being allowed to stay at home and play with the children while the men go out and plow the fields for them and hunt the game for them and pay the taxes for them and die in the wars for them IS NOT OPPRESSION.

Only feminists and those who subscribe to their flawed mindset consider it oppression. And they are full of s~~~.

Successful societies have always been ones that properly balance rights and responsibilities. Balancing rights and responsibilities is not oppression. Oppressive societies are never successful. Not being able to have your cake and eat it too is NOT OPPRESSION, despite what feminists might believe. It’s just life.

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Exsliventxs wrote:

This individual knows WAY to much about female persecution throughout history,

What female persecution would that be? See my previous post.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

sidecar wrote:

What female persecution would that be? See my previous post.

Haha, well said. Maybe I should have put quotations around my statement.

“Female persecution” as if to imply irony. Make no mistake I completely agree, and it was this users lack of concern for the male point of view that exposed an issue.

It was women this and women that… nothing about men’s issues.

[superMGTOWSpectator 15]

sidecar wrote:

All this “women must be oppressed”, “women must be controlled”, “societies are only successful when women are oppressed” stuff you keep going on and on and on about. Women being allowed to stay at home and play with the children while the men go out and plow the fields for them and hunt the game for them and pay the taxes for them and die in the wars for them IS NOT OPPRESSION. Only feminists and those who subscribe to their flawed mindset consider it oppression. And they are full of s~~~. Successful societies have always been ones that properly balance rights and responsibilities. Balancing rights and responsibilities is not oppression. Oppressive societies are never successful. Not being able to have your cake and eat it too is NOT OPPRESSION, despite what feminists might believe. It’s just life.

I have already addressed the oppression part. Also, I think you’re still for women’s equality. I will quote Aristotle again:

“The male is by nature superior, and the female inferior. The male ruler and the female subject.”

“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.”

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superMGTOW wrote:

Also, I think you’re still for women’s equality.

And you aren’t?

Of course I’m all for equality. Who wouldn’t be? Equal rights AND EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES. That’s the part that feminism conveniently forgets about. For example if a woman has the sole right to choose whether a fetus is born or aborted, then she should have the sole responsibility to pay to raise that child. Not the man and certainly not the taxpayer. If men are held responsible to pay to raise the child, then men should have an EQUAL RIGHT to choose whether it gets aborted or born.

Do you see how that works?

Aristotle again:
“The male is by nature superior, and the female inferior. The male ruler and the female subject.”
“The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.”

And that’s just more feminist bait there. This strenuous insistence of yours that men are somehow inherently superior and women are somehow inherently inferior. It’s just not true, and shows that you are either largely ignorant of the basic nature of humanity, or you have a vested interest in pushing feminist straw men. Thus far I’ve been giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Things are not nearly as simple as superior / inferior. Men and women are DIFFERENT, and have different roles determined by biology. Making a superior / inferior comparison between men and women is like trying to claim apples are superior to oranges. The reason why women are less responsible, less trustworthy, less reliable, and so on, than men is simply because they are allowed to be.

A large part of MGTOW is simply not allowing that any more.

Also Aristotle? Please. You’d do better studying Feynman.

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sidecar wrote:

And you aren’t? Of course I’m all for equality. Who wouldn’t be? Equal rights AND EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES. That’s the part that feminism conveniently forgets about. For example if a woman has the sole right to choose whether a fetus is born or aborted, then she should have the sole responsibility to pay to raise that child. Not the man and certainly not the taxpayer. If men are held responsible to pay to raise the child, then men should have an EQUAL RIGHT to choose whether it gets aborted or born. Do you see how that works?

And that’s just more feminist bait there. This strenuous insistence of yours that men are somehow inherently superior and women are somehow inherently inferior. It’s just not true, and shows that you are either largely ignorant of the basic nature of humanity, or you have a vested interest in pushing feminist straw men. Thus far I’ve been giving you the benefit of the doubt. Things are not nearly as simple as superior / inferior. Men and women are DIFFERENT, and have different roles determined by biology. Making a superior / inferior comparison between men and women is like trying to claim apples are superior to oranges. The reason why women are less responsible, less trustworthy, less reliable, and so on, than men is simply because <em class=”d4pbbc-italic”>they are allowed to be. A large part of MGTOW is simply not allowing that any more. Also Aristotle? Please. You’d do better studying Feynman.

Of course I’m against woman being treated as man’s equal as should every man. Woman is man’s slave who will as told and this has always been her place. Women are naturally defective and inclined to be evil. Reason must prevail over emotion.

 

There is no doubt that women are superior to men when it comes to certain things like being wicked slyly. Humanity will pay the price for letting women out and giving them power. They must be put back and stripped of all power. Men should be in power for the sake of good and progress. Women in charge will bring about destruction.

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superMGTOW wrote:

Of course I’m against woman being treated as man’s equal as should every man. Woman is man’s slave who will as told and this has always been her place. Women are naturally defective and inclined to be evil. Reason must prevail over emotion.

You see that, right there, that cartoonishly simple and incorrect view of gender and history is why people here think you are either a child or a feminist trojan straw man. And the more that I see from you the more I think the latter is the case.

[superMGTOWSpectator 15]

sidecar wrote:

You see that, right there, that cartoonishly simple and incorrect view of gender and history is why people here think you are either a child or a feminist trojan straw man. And the more that I see from you the more I think the latter is the case.

The fact is that women have been second class citizens all over the world for almost all of history. They are to be submissive and follow man’s orders. “Gender equality” is unnatural and wrong because men and women are inherently unequal, with men being vastly superior.

 

EDIT: my bad. They weren’t even allowed to be citizens. They are just property.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

Manocalypse wrote:

Hmmmm I was thinking that this was skewed a wee bit too much towards this Patriarchy thing which some women mention from time to time… Oh and that Supermgtow handle. It’s like if Soul Man or KM fancied a bit of trolling on a feminist website and decided to call himself Megafeminist or something. Just sayin’…

HAHA!  Well, unfortunately for those wimmenz I have no time to waste on trolling them.  They are insignificant and my time is valuable.  I don’t invest my time where there is no R.O.I.  If it’s not making me money or a sammich then it’s not on my radar.  🙂

Proverbs 21:9 “Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.”

Can I get an amen!?!?

 

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

superMGTOW wrote:

The fact is that women have been second class citizens all over the world for almost all of history. They are to be submissive and follow man’s orders. “Gender equality” is unnatural and wrong because men and women are inherently unequal, with men being vastly superior.

See you keep saying things like that as if it’s actual history, and it isn’t.  It’s a cartoon view, not a fact.  Your repeating it over and over and over will not make it a fact.  Men have not been women’s masters throughout history.  In fact for the most part they’ve been servants to women’s reproductive utility.  The things you own end up owning you.  That’s most true when you think you own women.

It’s better to just walk away.

Now are you going to try to make a real argument in response or are you going to just repeat the same drivel once again?

[superMGTOWSpectator 15]

sidecar wrote:

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Men have been servants? I would get into this but your manner of speaking is deplorable.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

superMGTOW wrote:

Men have been servants? I would get into this but your manner of speaking is deplorable.

Oh yeah, not like you haven’t been condescending at all….

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Anonymous 1]

superMGTOW wrote:

Of course I’m against woman being treated as man’s equal as should every man. Woman is man’s slave who will as told and this has always been her place. Women are naturally defective and inclined to be evil.

I usually don’t do this, but f~~~ it.

Can I call woman on this one? It sounds like a woman. It smells like a woman. Only a woman would be that OBLIVIOUS…

I smell estrogen again.

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

@sidecar: Good call. I think superMGTOW is either a hardcore trad-con or is a feminist troll trying to bait any hardcore trad-cons among us.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[Anonymous 1]

superMGTOW wrote:

The fact is that women have been second class citizens all over the world for almost all of history. They are to be submissive and follow man’s orders. “Gender equality” is unnatural and wrong because men and women are inherently unequal, with men being vastly superior.

Holly s~~~! If not a woman, a troll. Am I wrong? This “guy” seems to be the stereotype of what feminist portrait what a man is.

“All women should submit, men should oppress women. That is the natural way things are. All hail patriarchy.”

I am really not buying this. I am hoping to see what Keymaster has to say about this, and if you guys (I mean, the REAL guys) think I am on the wrong, let me know.

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

EDIT: my bad. They weren’t even allowed to be citizens. They are just property.

 

That makes me lean towards feminist troll rather than hardcore trad-con.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

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