The myth of Romance

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  • #751224
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    Narwhal
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    So I was bored last night and ended up watching a bit of this documentary series that was talking about the nature of myths. Myths like King Arthur, the Greek and Nordic myths, those sort of stories. The made a point that it is quite common for the myths to follow the same basic plot line.

    1 – Status quo
    2 – Event happens to break status quo
    3 – Hero is called to action.
    4 – Hero has to pass a series of trials.
    5 – Hero has to pass one last climatic test
    6 – A new status quo develops. The hero is forever changed.

    The show stated that it appear that there was something in the human psyche that longed for this type of story, that found it motivational. Hence most the stories that followed the formula were passed down through generations. It even pointed out that modern tales, like Star Wars, also follows the formula.

    In watching this it occurred to me, that this same story lines matches what accounts for romance these days.

    1 – status quo – normal single guy
    2 – event – guy meets girl
    3 – call to action – guy feels that he must ask girl out
    4 – series of trials – dating and engagement.
    5 – climatic test – marriage
    6 – new status quo – married life, dude is forever changed.

    Thinking of romance, or the modern relationship these days, in these terms helps explain why men are drawn to it. It’s a story men often want to be a part of. It’s a fairy tale. How it’s generally thought of practically as process of moving from boy to man. How men blindly believe that the new status quo is the end goal that’s worth it all, because that’s what’s supposed to happen in the story.

    Of course, the new status quo is utter crap.

    I can see value in recognizing how the human psyche works though. How we are drawn to the story. I’d say that it’s isn’t wise to just to ignore the draw towards romance/relationships that we have, but instead to replace it with a different story. To find other dragons to slay, so to speak. One where the new status quo actually does result in living happily ever after.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #751255
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    Ranger One
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    Luke Skywalker must have been married like his Dad, and it broke him, too. I don’t by the Kylo story. Luke Skywalker was married. Kylo was Chad and was banging her.

    Luke and Anakin both should have gone Red Pill and Monk.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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    Anonymous
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    Romance and Seduction feeds into man’s desire to overcome and conquer. The Blue Pill male believes that if he throws enough money at the problem than he will win the woman. I don’t think many men dream of marriage as such. That is somehow driven into him by his “prize”.

    Now the Red Pill male knows that the end goal is not worth it. Due to his cynical nature he is also more likely to come off as genuine and a challenge which in turns makes him more interesting to the female.

    #751323
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    Narwhal
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    omance and Seduction feeds into man’s desire to overcome and conquer. The Blue Pill male believes that if he throws enough money at the problem than he will win the woman. I don’t think many men dream of marriage as such. That is somehow driven into him by his “prize”.

    I did. I saw the new status quo of married life with kids as better than the old status quo. I thought I would looked upon higher amongst my piers and society in general. I thought I would have a loving wife who was concerned about my happiness and appreciated me. All those things. These are the things the everyone said would happen, and I wanted it.

    Honestly, if I believe that all marriage was a trophy (wedding ring), then I don’t think I would have done it.

    Ok. Then do it.

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    Anonymous
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    omance and Seduction feeds into man’s desire to overcome and conquer. The Blue Pill male believes that if he throws enough money at the problem than he will win the woman. I don’t think many men dream of marriage as such. That is somehow driven into him by his “prize”.

    I did. I saw the new status quo of married life with kids as better than the old status quo. I thought I would looked upon higher amongst my piers and society in general. I thought I would have a loving wife who was concerned about my happiness and appreciated me. All those things. These are the things the everyone said would happen, and I wanted it.

    Honestly, if I believe that all marriage was a trophy (wedding ring), then I don’t think I would have done it.

    I knew a guy way back when I was about 20, so was he. He had already lived with a woman and had a 3 year old kid. One day we were chatting and he was talking about his life, he actually said, “I don’t know why it all went wrong. I did what I was supposed to do” meaning he had the kid, the commitment and it still didn’t work for him. His woman was a nut job mind you, but he wasn’t seeing it that way.

    I didn’t say anything. Even back then I was not one who believed the bulls~~~.

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    Bigboy83
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    There is no romamce unless the man doess it

    Because women dont care enough to do it, even though they lecture you about 50/50.

    Its like, listen bitch, let me know when you decide to participate, until you do, shut your trap.

    Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

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    TheSpice
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    6 – new status quo – married life, dude is forever changed.

    Forever changed is right. His dream ends up being shattered by a heartless bitch who sleeps with Chad and still somehow takes the high moral ground because she “wasn’t happy” or some s~~~ and then takes the house, kids, etc. and leaves dude by the side of the road wondering what he did wrong.

    "I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
    "You know it's too late for that."

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    Sky-O
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    The romance myth also involves:

    01: Hero quest for a unique woman that is like no other.

    02: Convinces himself she is a unicorn.

    03: She casts a spell, using magic – Her ‘love’ for him. And she reflects back to him like a mirror, an idealized image of himself that he wants to see.

    04: He sacrifices all he has to adhere to the myth.

    05: And consequently, he is imprisoned in a cell of his own creation. Made possible by his denial of objective reality and his alliance with fantasy.

    The White Knight is then destined to live within the parameters of a lie and a charade.

    Eternally.

    The End

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    Sjt1975
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    The romance myth also involves:

    01: Hero quest for a unique woman that is like no other.

    02: Convinces himself she is a unicorn.

    03: She casts a spell, using magic – Her ‘love’ for him. And she reflects back to him like a mirror, an idealized image of himself that he wants to see.

    04: He sacrifices all he has to adhere to the myth.

    05: And consequently, he is imprisoned in a cell of his own creation. Made possible by his denial of objective reality and his alliance with fantasy.

    The White Knight is then destined to live within the parameters of a lie and a charade.

    Eternally.

    The End

    Sky-O breaks the spell again!!!

    #758948
    CatsPaw
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    Romance is the Feel of exclusivity, nothing more.
    After World War II when men were scarce a Man being “rough” was Romantic.

    Romance like love is one of those made up words to manipulate someone.

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