The Misunderstanding Of MGTOW.

[Anonymous 13]

Another thread made me realise just how misunderstood is MGTOW.

FOR lurkers, newbies etc.

We are NOT activists.

We are NOT trying to win anyone over.

We are NOT trying to fix this.

We KNOW the system is SO broken that it can’t be fixed, and we’ve all seen modern women’s true nature.

We are NOT on strike.

We are NEVER coming back.

We have quite simply WALKED AWAY from the WHOLE DEAL.

We are MGTOW.

Men Going Their Own Way.

AND

Last but not least,

WE ARE HAPPY.

[GregB0Participant]

Anonymous wrote:

We KNOW the system is SO broken that it can’t be fixed,

and we strive to educate others about how and why the system is broken. We hope that this knowledge will allow others to avoid the hardships and pain MGTOW members have faced in the past.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

Another thread made me realise just how misunderstood is MGTOW.

FOR lurkers, newbies etc.

We are NOT activists.

We are NOT trying to win anyone over.

We are NOT trying to fix this.

We KNOW the system is SO broken that it can’t be fixed, and we’ve all seen modern women’s true nature.

We are NOT on strike.

We are NEVER coming back.

We have quite simply WALKED AWAY from the WHOLE DEAL.

We are MGTOW.

Men Going Their Own Way.

AND

Last but not least,

WE ARE HAPPY.

Word

Actually, the caliber of the men who make up MGTOW would amaze you misunderstanders. Why are you judging that of which you know nothing?

[narwhalParticipant]

And ‘caliber’ is not a reflection of how much money you have, how well you are liked, or how much influence you have over others.

To better understand, best to just keep reading.

Ok. Then do it.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Anonymous wrote:

Another thread made me realise just how misunderstood is MGTOW.

We are ghosts. We don’t have to explain nor justify ourselves to anyone.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Actually, the caliber of the men who make up MGTOW would amaze you misunderstanders. Why are you judging that of which you know nothing?

There’s always the possibility that they DO know the caliber of men and it scares the s~~~ out of them. But that’s likely giving them too much credit. I’m sure they still think that a vagina is the strongest substance known to man. And to most men it is.

Order the good wine

[Lone Wolf McQuadeParticipant 32]

This article actually led me here. Provides plenty of ammunition and really explains everything succinctly: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://theobserverwatches.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-four-levels-of-mgtow-betas-shrug.html&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiSlpb4uc_UAhVJNxQKHRdqBkAQFggPMAA&usg=AFQjCNEhYj64wcJ-PNAM-DWR-hFi-xyusg

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

the caliber of the men who make up MGTOW would amaze you

Well said. I have met some of our other brothers. Impressive men.

[Anonymous 6]

If I ever became governor I’d fix some stuff. I’d end no fault divorce in my state. Change some child custody and child support laws. I’d implement a lottery and use a portion of that money for education.

I don’t mind changing some things. They just have to be done right.

Then I’d build a new state Park in my name

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Roger that. But be conscious you don’t catch yourself righting misonceptions. Manipulators use a strategy and project an accusation on to you….

“you are __X___”
“you are __Y___”

…. before they even ask any questions about you – they are making statements about you.

They fabricate nonsense made up in the own head – as you well know – and if you’re not careful, you find yourself playing into it, working to “explain away” their crap.

Feminists are very preoccupied with that. They actually have videos on youtube on the topic of “clearing up the misconceptions of feminism”…. which discuss what feminism is “NOT about”. It’s actually quite funny ( and ironic ) because it sure as f~~~ is not about “equal rights for women and men”. And the reason feminists feel a need to clear up misconceptions is because that’s what they rely on. Feminism is just one big misconception, and hocus-pocus donkey show based nowhere in reality.

So the best response to a statement or accusation is not explaining it and forcing them to ask the question first.

“You seem like you are __A___”
“I bet you’re __B___”
“I heard you’re __C___”

“Is that a question or a statement? If you have any questions you may ask.”.

They don’t ask the question. It’s lazy and manipulative. They refuse to ask questions because it puts them in a position of having to process an alternate reality or any response they’re not expecting. Pay close attention to how often people actually attempt to “tell” you – about you. It’s truly remarkable.

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Yesterday I came across a comment directed at me which had a quote from an unmentioned feminist website – which quoted a MGTOW quote on reddit. Try and follow that one.

Instead of going right to the source and asking the question, she pointed to a quote that had already been re-interpreted twice…. then she started monologuing about it – telling me about me – to someone she never met, asked questions of or interacted with.

Imagine the lunacy required for that.

“If you have any QUESTIONS, you may ASK.”

She shut the f~~~ up immediately. She refused to ask the question, because she preferred to live in her own head. Instead of righting their projections and misconceptions, just make them ask the question first – and then you’ll notice they aren’t very interested in anything other than the s~~~ swirling around in their heads.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MACHOParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

And ‘caliber’ is not a reflection of how much money you have, how well you are liked, or how much influence you have over others.
To better understand, best to just keep reading.

The gynocentric system values whom you know, who you worship and follow blindly! Not who you are intrinsically or how much integrity and honor you carry throughout your life!

The system has gotten too corrupted to be fixed! That’s the reason men are walking away!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 3]

And to those that “project” any concept of what it feels to walk away, let me just say:

It feels great! It feels like freedom.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

MACHO wrote:

narwhal wrote:

And ‘caliber’ is not a reflection of how much money you have, how well you are liked, or how much influence you have over others.
To better understand, best to just keep reading.

The gynocentric system values whom you know, who you worship and follow blindly! Not who you are intrinsically or how much integrity and honor you carry throughout your life!

The system has gotten too corrupted to be fixed! That’s the reason men are walking away!

The way I look at it, we had a good thing going in the West. The feminists started a fire after soaking the structure from top to bottom with gasoline. The tradcons and MRAs are futilely trying to throw buckets of water on the fire, while the feminists continue to throw gasoline.

Us MGTOW are the people who watch from a safe distance, toasting marshmellows on a really long stick while the house of cards burns down.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[OldBillParticipant]

That’s all so very true, Spirit. It’s also what the fools, haters, and so many others cannot or will not understand about MGTOW.

MGTOW is not a movement. As such, MGTOW doesn’t have members and thus doesn’t have any need to recruit any members. Most importantly, MGTOW does not convince men to “join” or otherwise “recruit”.

Men are not lured to MGTOW.

Men are not convinced to support MGTOW.

Men are driven to become MGTOW.

MGTOW has no need to recruit because women, the courts, governments, and societies recruit for MGTOW.

We’re not here to fix women, the courts, governments, or societies. They cannot be fixed. They instead must be allowed to fail and fade away.

We’re here to discuss and to learn how we can first survive, then live, and then thrive in this completely broken world created by evilly narcissistic women, knowingly corrupt courts, slowly failing governments, and wholly dysfunctional societies.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Speaking for myself, the most useful thing about mgtow was learning that I wasn’t the only one seeing what I was seeing. I didn’t learn too much about women when I got here that I didn’t already know. What I learned is that my experience was not unique and unlucky among men. The realization that there were thousands of other men who’d had the same experiences and came away with the same perceptions was valuable for me. It removed once and for all any lingering doubts about whether my experience was just some random one-off fluke in the system. My experience and perception IS the system. It is exactly what the system intended for it to be. But for this site, I might have assumed that I had just been unlucky, and given that whole marriage s~~~-show another try…

Not sure how much $$$ I ended up saving as a result of the realization that I got on this no-fee, no membership, no credit card required site. But I’m guessing it’s about half of what I have + about 21% of earnings for the next 18 years. I think I’m going to just say thank you and be grateful for that. I don’t really need this site to get me any special men’s rights or considerations. I don’t need it to organize a protest march to make anything change. I ESPECIALLY don’t need it to try to attempt to change the behavior of women or the legal system that backs their behavior. All I needed was to realize that my experience was the intent of women and the system from the beginning.

Given that realization, I can make the appropriate decisions and get for myself everything else I need with the clarity that this realization produced for me. As has been posted elsewhere: the only winning move is not to play, but once that move is made, the winning just keeps on coming…

Thanks KM, MGTOW brothers.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

We’re misunderstood because they want so badly to for us to be a movement. Something they can push back against. A single hive mind to attack. Every attempt fails. Like the recent one when Jizz Jim was here lumping us into a single mind and refusing to accept that we all have different opinions and ideas so nothing he said applied.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 2]

This is what people can’t seem to get through their heads about us. They immediately want to label us as the male version of feminism, but that doesn’t work. Unlike feminists, we are not activists. We realize the system is broken, but we have no desire to change it. Why? Because we didn’t create the broken system that treats us as disposable workhorses, so it’s not our job to fix it. The only route to go is to starve the system by not taking part in it. It’s absolutely pointless to ask a system that relies on male disposability to survive to change itself and treat men equally. I don’t have a problem with women having equal rights. What I do have a problem with is women having more rights, and basically zero responsibility or accountability for their actions.

Anyone that is so naive to believe that the system will change by men simply asking it to change and saying “pretty please” is a damn fool. You might as well say “Slavery could have ended in the U.S. if the slaves just kept kindly asking the plantation owners to let them go.”

I didn’t create this system, so fixing it is not my problem. I’m simply walking away and letting the chips fall where they may. I refuse to allow myself to be used as a disposable whose only purpose is to sacrifice his own money and well-being for the protection and benefit of women and the government.

What it all boils down to is that I really don’t give a f~~~ anymore. I’m done with this gynocentric society that does nothing but use me and degrade me just for being born with a penis. I’m done and I’m not coming back.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

we are not activists.

It is just that simple. We go our own ways.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Agreed Frost,
I’m not trying to change my cabin assignment on the ship. I’m not trying to steer the ship. I’m not trying to save the ship from sinking. I’m not trying to have my feelings about the ship better recognized or understood.

I’m that speck on the horizon that other passengers can barely see, leisurely paddling away on my raft, with my back to the ship, following the example of others who bailed off that boat, looking out at my own horizon… possibly setting the example for others after me to follow.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

We are NOT trying to win anyone over.

True. This isn’t a competition with any other philosophy to convert (we don’t care if they all go down the s~~~ter (as long as we don’t)); but we want information available to the ignorant. MGTOW philosophy offers a salvation that many men don’t know exists.

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