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I make six figures, work a lot…yet…still play video games. Video games for me have always just been something to do for an hour or two in the afternoon to just relax, like most people would watch tv, or something to do when there is nothing better to do. If I was sitting here on a Saturday morning playing some video games and a friend called and said “Want to go for a hike today?” I’d shut the game off and go for a hike…its not like I’d say nah…I’m living in fantasy land and I’m going to be a hermit because its better than walking out my front door.
I think the core of the issue is actually what a lot of you have already mentioned…when you cut out all the spending you’d do basically trying to get female attention, you find you need to spend very little to be content. Personally if someone handed me 20k cash Jan 1st I could get by on that money all year and probably still have a bit left over. I make more than 20k…all the extra I don’t spend on dumb s~~~ just because I can…it all gets invested. I’m going to retire early as f~~~ hopefully and the total hours I’ve spent of my life working are going to be far less than what the average blue pill married guy will spend working.
Like I said before…video games are just something to do when I have nothing better to do. If I retire super early…will I play video games in retirement? Oh yeah…and every hour I do it will be and hour more enjoyably spent than an hour wasted working just to blow the money on blue pill stupidity.
Recently in the gym, was leg day
+1 for leg day.
and a c~~~ stopped at me and said
-1 for c~~~s interrupting your workout.
I’ve been around for about a half century now. 3 decades ago, when I was just starting out, it was explained to me by an older alpha male that the economy works this way: “If you are a man, your purpose in life is to go out and get job and make as much money as you possibly can. You’ll use that money to get as much pussy as you possibly can, maximizing either quantity or quality, depending on your preferences. Maybe you’ll buy it straight from a professional. Maybe you’ll buy dinner and drinks and show tickets. Maybe you’ll buy a house and cars. But that will be your role. It’s been our role for eons, and we are pretty good at it. Once, we hunted in small teams of cave men. Now, we team up by hundreds or thousands in giant corporations to chase down enormous sums of money, which we divide among ourselves and then go out and get as much pussy as we can with our shares. Now, if you are a woman, you are born with a pussy which you trade for as much money as you can get. Maybe you become a prostitute and sell it directly. Maybe you become a girlfriend and get the dinner and drinks. Maybe you become a wife and get the house and cars. Maybe you cash out and become the ex wife. Maybe you become the welfare mommie. But whatever you choose, you are looking to maximize the pussy profit. When you get whatever money you can for the pussy, you take it and go out and blow it. You don’t save it. You don’t invest it. You spend it as fast as you can… Which stimulates the economy and creates jobs and opportunities for men to go out and make that money. And this circle of money and pussy just goes around and around and around. It does not stop because women don’t stop wanting to spend money and men don’t stop wanting to f~~~ women. And it DOES NOT go in reverse because women do not pay money to men for dick, men tend to save an extra money and invest instead of blowing money on silly s~~~ at the mall, and because women are neither motivated, or particularly skilled at getting up early and busting their asses to go compete to earn money. The economy steams on and on because these two f~~~ and spend behaviors have been reliable for centuries…”
This is essentially a quote from a multi-millionaire alpha CEO about 30 years ago. I can’t say that I liked hearing it, but I also couldn’t point to anything to argue it either.
The problem with the economy now is that some dumb ass tired to replace men with women and put the system in reverse. Women aren’t producing nearly as well as men did. They don’t have the motivation (no woman anywhere is as ambitious to produce money as a horny 20 something year old man is to get laid). And they have raised the price of pussy so high (financial, social, emotional) that men are no longer buying, so they are not really motivated to produce any more than what’s necessary for them to survive. Porn and video games may have filled the vacuum left behind, but they didn’t create it. Feminism did.
‘Shouldn’t have screwed with what was already working very well for eons…
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Wow man, you are truly my new inspiration. I don’t know that many men who have went from zero to hero, literally. Because to get from nothing to 6 figure income requires some serious self-ass-busting I take it? Care to share how?
Well this website is one of the basic starting points to reach that goal:
Unc~~~ed life.
Without that, my financial airplane would not have taken off.
Take the money the average man wastes on a c~~~ and add it all up.
Then make some after hour money on top…Women spend your money to keep you down!
To make you unattractive to other women and to “squeeze the most out of you” she can gain for herself. Woman are selfish and walk over dead bodies to get what they want.
The rest depends on you and your ways of working.
Here is a thread based on one starting point: Getting mobbed and discriminated by the bosses’ c~~~… And my “passive-aggressive” reaction to it…
The c~~~ wanted to shake me out of my job and I saved money as a buffer – to live in peace if I become unemployed as a result…
I will be sharing more of this in the future.
Men of today, destroyed by the feminist “enemy” schools system need to learn things by themselves and become a mighty force with capital and knowledge that no c~~~ will see in her statistics.
I laughed about arrogant high income c~~~s…
As a simple (LOL) craftsman, but one with “hidden skills” no one knew about, and no BIG diploma on the wall…
And these “hidden skills” were not taught in school.
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In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
>“Economists”
Ha. What a f~~~ing load. They clearly haven’t heard of “Flight to value”. “Economists” is clearly turning into a description with same credentials as “Gender Studies”. I wouldn’t hire them to report on fertilizer production.
Anonymous2Just a pathetic attempt to make a strawman argument to avoid the truth: Feminism and it’s support and promotion of misandry has driven men away from giving a f~~~ about marriage, women, or the impact their walking away will have on society. A cold truth nobody wants to admit or address because it doesn’t fit a gynocentric agenda.
This video game scapegoat is pretty ridiculous. Look, I’m in my mid-30s, and personally, I don’t own a video game system. I have some friends that do, but they’re not playing video games 24/7 like this article would have you believe. For the men that enjoy video games, more power to them. Everybody has a right to spend their free time doing whatever they enjoy. For me, it’s music. For some, it’s video games. For others, it may be fishing, cars, books, photography, painting, or a million other things. The men I know have a list of hobbies among them that’s made up of a very wide spectrum. This portrayal of video games being like some kind of drug epidemic among men is pure bulls~~~, and nothing but a scapegoat for a society that threw men under the bus a long time ago, and doesn’t want to admit that it f~~~ed up.
Men aren’t choosing not to work just to stay home and play video games all day. Single men that are interested in video games are playing more than married men because they aren’t spending an extra 300 hours a year at work just to take enough home to make ends meet like married men are, and they don’t have some woman harping on them every minute. Single men are perfectly happy with making enough to support themselves and put a little away on the side with each check. They don’t feel the need to work themselves to death when they only need a one bedroom place and food for one. As I have said before, I’ve never met a man who had a terminal illness that said “I wish I would have spent more time at work”. Women have found out that being in the labor force sucks, but they’re also the ones that need a wardrobe big enough to clothe 200 people, a newer model car, and all the other trendy s~~~, so if they don’t have a man’s income to leech off of, it means more time at the office for them to suport their lifesytyle. Men don’t give a f~~~. They’ll get by with a couple of pairs of pants, a few shirts, and wear a pair of shoes or boots until they can’t be worn anymore. They’re not p~~~ing money out the window like crazy the way women do, so they can get by just fine on smaller salaries.
I have been gaming for a decade, many of the younger guys I have known for that long have indeed dropped out altogether.
And have games gotten better since Anita Sarkeesian and her SJW ilk have basically infiltrated game development studios that are now committed to making games carry a load of bulls~~~ such as body image statements and sexism? In general games have gotten worse. Gamers have been heavily complaining about the massive bulls~~~ that has engulfed the industry that charges just to unlock basic content for the games they have purchased. Why do you think the NES mini and now the SNES mini demand is through the roof?
Heavy gaming leisure is a symptom, not a cause.
This is unrelated to women, it’s the system trying covering its failures by blaming videogames.
If not enough jobs are available, then it’s the system’s fault.
Individual competitivity and worth is about taking a job that is better than other individuals (more money, more free time, something you like – it depends) while providing enough jobs (including bad jobs for less worthy individuals) is up to the system. When the system doesn’t provide enough jobs, system is a loser and must be changed.A man without a job cannot support himself, then he isn’t a MGHOW, is a Man Going Nowhere Since Lacks Money.
No jobs, no future, no hope.
This.
Personally I don’t care about theories: when a system doesn’t work, I’m going to vote to change it. Whatever it’s Marine Le Pen or Stalin or Islamic Brotherhood to change it, it’s secondary. The priority is that it have to change. Being afraid of change is for tradcons and losers.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
This week it’s gaming. Last week it was porn. Next week it will be the hook-up culture. After that it will something else. They’ll keep rotating through the same list of excuses because they can never admit the real reason, even to themselves.
The “sexodus”, the “marriage strike”, the “lack” of men in the workforce, it’s all a result of men going their own way. For everyone of us here, for every man who has heard of MGTOW, there are thousands who are MGTOWs in actual deed rather than word.
Men are going their own way because we’ve been told for generations that we’re no longer needed. No longer needed except for our money and labor that is. We’re expected to be happy slaves in the system designed to shear us and we’re expected to thank our masters every time we’re kicked in the teeth.
More and more men are waking up. More and more men are escaping the plantation. More and more men are refusing to participate in a society which hates them, denigrates them, and refuses to acknowledge their basic humanity.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Lol jobs . Why are young people not working . Then people p~~~ and moan there lazy . This makes my f~~~ing dv itch . WHAT F~~~ING JOBS . All the jobs have been sent overseas or the ones that are here are taken by immigrants .
Our country has s~~~ all over our youth . I say go play ya video games and surf or hang out with ya mates . F~~~ the woman , f~~~ the plantation , f~~~ the government .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
This video game scapegoat is pretty ridiculous.
Blaming everything on my music was the song of the day in my youth…
Since c~~~s have destroyed the stereo and amateur radio hobby in men…
They now have video games to blame everything on.
What will they say tomorrow…?
“They all f~~~ their sex bots” as if we would f~~~ 24/7 and forget about life…
I managed my life in spite of having 1000’s of records…
But “music” was the blame shame speech of all c~~~s around me from the day I had my first cassette recorder in 1976 at age 9…
Yes, I hated their nagging and complaining. And attacking my music was the first thing DRIVING ME AWAY FROM WOMEN….
And buying MORE MUSIC!
And better equipment!
Some bad school grades (due to tiredness) came from the family fighting all night and not because I caught some late radio show on tape…
C~~~ = Trouble and nothing else.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Fuk stupid computer games, every chance I get I am in my truck cruising with my dogs looking to fuk s~~~ up.
Criminal dickheads on welfare intimidating old ladies in the street and robbing s~~~ …please start something, please start something.
This week it’s gaming. Last week it was porn. Next week it will be the hook-up culture. After that it will something else. They’ll keep rotating through the same list of excuses because they can never admit the real reason, even to themselves.
Exactly, OldBill
later it was my car restoration hobby that got “nag nag nag” from my family c~~~s and neighbor c~~~s:
The reason why I would not “learn dancing” “get a girlfriend” and “play the game”…
None would ever have admitted that it was my constant bombardment with criticism, shame and devaluation by WOMEN that made me avoid them as best as I could.
They drove me away from “wanting to impress them” and so I took my time in “relaxing” after I had gotten the family out of my immediate sight. From 1994 to mid 1995 I played “unemployed”…
Today I say “recovery time from 23 years of family terror” but I first finished my “electronics technician” with DTAG (T-Mobile)… And in spite of A-Grades made sure “not to get a job”…
Restoring cars as some kind of therapy…
That gave me the energy to start again…
Women had worn me out.
After that time, I was making sure that none of them wanted me… If they “squeezed themselves” onto me, I just told them about exploding capacitors, building bombs and gassing the neighbors with car paint… Until they had enough.
I started to like “hamster nuking”…
The first time in my life no one around me yelling and throwing things around.
And that became my standard. 5 more years on, I was the owner of the company…
Decision making without c~~~s… Next chapter…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Fuk stupid computer games, every chance I get I am in my truck cruising with my dogs looking to fuk s~~~ up.
Criminal dickheads on welfare intimidating old ladies in the street and robbing s~~~ …please start something, please start something.
Don’t fall for tradcon propaganda.
There aren’t enough jobs because they have been outsourced oversea.
Traitors excuses hold no water: who allowed outsourcing is a traitor.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I have been gaming for a decade, many of the younger guys I have known for that long have indeed dropped out altogether.
And have games gotten better since Anita Sarkeesian and her SJW ilk have basically infiltrated game development studios that are now committed to making games carry a load of bulls~~~ such as body image statements and sexism? In general games have gotten worse. Gamers have been heavily complaining about the massive bulls~~~ that has engulfed the industry that charges just to unlock basic content for the games they have purchased. Why do you think the NES mini and now the SNES mini demand is through the roof?
Heavy gaming leisure is a symptom, not a cause.
Spot on, the whole GamerGate carry on was about women infiltrating gaming to either control it or destroy it. Just like everything else men have created – they want to control it, or they destroy it.
I’m retired. My time is my own. I play World of Warcraft and EVE, both mmporg games and I have close friends I play with every night. We share male commaradarie (sp?). And that’s important. Video games are men’s safe spaces.
exactly why women are butting into the industry with the help of their pathetic manginas
whatever we enjoy they have to ruin
Just like everything else men have created – they want to control it, or they destroy it.
This time, they are screwed: They cannot ruin MGTOW!
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Gaming? That’s a loud bark up the wrong tree. Sure, lots of younger guys are gaming like mad but there are just as many MGTOW’s avoiding the plantation and filling the time in other ways. Weightlifting, working on cars, hunting/fishing, golf, entrepreneurship/investment, travel, study, keeping their houses tight. Whatever. In one form or another, activities of this type have always offered men a way of life away from the drudgery of a straight job and the hazards of modern marriage. Gaming is a convenient scapegoat because it’s visible and pervasive. But if it weren’t gaming it would be something else. Wipe out gaming tomorrow and you won’t see guys in droves emerge from their apartments to get s~~~ty jobs and wife up the first girl they see. There are social conditions that lead to all that gaming that the economists are ignoring in their study of the issue.
Gaming? That’s a loud bark up the wrong tree. Sure, lots of younger guys are gaming like mad but there are just as many MGTOW’s avoiding the plantation and filling the time in other ways. Weightlifting, working on cars, hunting/fishing, golf, entrepreneurship/investment, travel, study, keeping their houses tight. Whatever. In one form or another, activities of this type have always offered men a way of life away from the drudgery of a straight job and the hazards of modern marriage. Gaming is a convenient scapegoat because it’s visible and pervasive. But if it weren’t gaming it would be something else. Wipe out gaming tomorrow and you won’t see guys in droves emerge from their apartments to get s~~~ty jobs and wife up the first girl they see. There are social conditions that lead to all that gaming that the economists are ignoring in their study of the issue.
You nailed it.
This is exactly what male-feminist concern troll bloggers and ‘Man Up and Marry those Sluts’ Pastors refuse to understand because it completely f~~~s up their feminine-centric rationales and ham-fisted Beta AMOGing attempts to shame men for the disincentives that their ‘perfect women’ represent to men. The constant drone is how video games are to blame for paralyzing men’s maturation – a maturation that is always merited by how well he serves the Feminine Imperative.
What they refuse to acknowledge is: If it wasn’t X-Box it would be something else.
“THE SOMETHING ELSE”:
The Something ElseSUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
They find an astonishing 67 per cent of non-employed men in their 20s live with their families, up from 46 per cent in 2000. And they don’t mind it much, either. Men in their 20s are happier than they were in the year 2000.
And on the other hand, women are more unhappy than ever.
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
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