The meaning of "Hate women"…

[ToadParticipant 271]

I wonder… I can talk with female relatives, i smile to females when i walk my dog and another one, with other dog, makes eye contact with me and she smile before i make it, i can be polite with every female that i encounter in services during the day and also can talk with a Semi-NAWALT girlfriend of some of my friends who appreciate me even knowing my opinion about women in general…

 

But, due to my anger to them, now that i understand their behavior  to me in the past years I can’t tolerate why they act like they do.  And i can’t just ignore them because i’m still a heterosexual guy with strong sex drive, so i avoid all the contact with them that they are not absolutely necessary, i don’t look at them by the street, i don’t make concessions ever to anyone, i never enter in a normal conversation if just one of them are in between, i see people making fool making them laugh and i feel sick, i listen o read beautiful things about their existence and i need to puke…

 

I look at them with no laugh in my face, i avoid them when they want to meet me, even when some of them wants to f~~~ with me because i know that they want me only because i treat them bad and they likes that way…  I can’t trust in them anymore and don’t like them,  i not interested in their interest, their dreams, their opinions, their scale of values, their complains…. their pain…

 

So… i searched the definition of “hate” in the dicionary  and now i wonder…

 

Due all the thing that they made to me… I ended hating women?…

 

i really don’t know what to say to this question…

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

first let’s us define ‘hate’ as a passionate dislike.

Second, passion is defined as a strong or barely controllable emotional reaction.

I hate c~~~roaches.  I actually have an emotional reaction to their presence.  Revulsion.

I don’t like beets.  I don’t have an emotional reaction to their presence or flavor but I don’t like the way they taste.

You seem to be describing that you don’t trust them and that you are controlling your behavior in the presence of women.  If this is true, then it could be said that you are allowing females to dictate your behavior.

This sounds more akin to paranoia.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Anger is a perfectly normal while swallowing the red pill. We have all been through it. Its natural because when you finally remove your blue tinted spectacles you see the world for what it is truly is. The real world is harsh. Its a harsh reality that there is no one out there that will love you unconditionally like society wants you to think. To compare women to what you know they are and what you thought they were is a huge difference. It’s like ordering a mint julep and getting a flattened off brand Sprite.

You don’t hate women if you did you would be chopping them up in your bedroom. Give it time and in time you may decide you want women in your life. But at that time you realize that they are who they are and you have to deal with that fact. You compensate accordingly or you can completely cut off the majority of connections.(unless you live in the mountains you will see women) I know it may not seem like it now but this is a journey of redefining yourself. You will look back and say wow look how far I have come whether you decide to include women in your life or not.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[ToadParticipant 271]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

You seem to be describing that you don’t trust them and that you are controlling your behavior in the presence of women.  If this is true, then it could be said that you are allowing females to dictate your behavior. This sounds more akin to paranoia.

Truly interesting… i couldn’t disagree because my normal behavior is kind to everyone, i treat everyone polite and i have a good sense of humor… but this is precisely what made me treat well to women and ended like that so, when i was in their presence i trigger myself “defense mode” to not be “nice guy” anymore… so it really dictate my behavior…

 

paranoia sounds like a strong word but i made the question to read opinions so a apreciate yours

Durden wrote:

Anger is a perfectly normal while swallowing the red pill. We have all been through it. Its natural because when you finally remove your blue tinted spectacles you see the world for what it is truly is.

 

Interesting too. i too think that if a really hate woman i would treat them bad, f~~~ing them making promises of a relationship and then leaving them with bad words or playing with their feelings… And i just think that all this comes for two things: anger and pride

Anger: because i made a clown so much years and i “hate” that feeling…

and pride: because i achieve all that i want in life with a satisfying results… and i still feel like i am a glitch when i remember that i never have a normal relationship, even a simple normal sexual interaction in my entire life…

That hurts and that dictate my behavior in life too…

 

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

There is a difference between hating what women do and hating women. I don’t hate the person I hate their actions. I don’t usually talk to women unless it’s necessary.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[ToadParticipant 271]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

There is a difference between hating what women do and hating women. I don’t hate the person I hate their actions. I don’t usually talk to women unless it’s necessary.

Maybe you are right but if we agree that the NAWALT doesn’t exist then the mayority of women act alike and then we will hate the behavior of -almost- all of them…

Doesn’t that make that we hate their personalities…?

Behavior doesn’t defines the subject?

 

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Toad wrote:

 

Interesting too. i too think that if a really hate woman i would treat them bad, f~~~ing them making promises of a relationship and then leaving them with bad words or playing with their feelings… And i just think that all this comes for two things: anger and pride Anger: because i made a clown so much years and i “hate” that feeling… and pride: because i achieve all that i want in life with a satisfying results… and i still feel like i am a glitch when i remember that i never have a normal relationship, even a simple normal sexual interaction in my entire life… That hurts and that dictate my behavior in life too…

We have all been made clowns and there are still clowns out there juggling. Thank your stars you are not anymore.

There is no such thing as a normal relationship. Its just another lie that has been fed to you. Relationships are confusing and at times very difficult. Add the narcissistic culture influences and they have become unbearable. In movies and tv shows you see the happy moments but never the arguments. Just like you see the successes but never the long grueling hours to develop something complex and worthwhile.

IMO if you have truly never had a sexual interaction/dates with a woman and want to experience it you must first see them for what they are and truly accept that. Know that you are playing with fire and plan accordingly. Many MGTOWs still interact with females but we understand their nature.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[ToadParticipant 271]

Durden wrote:

IMO if you have truly never had a sexual interaction/dates with a woman and want to experience it you must first see them for what they are and truly accept that. Know that you are playing with fire and plan accordingly. Many MGTOWs still interact with females but we understand their nature.

Of course and to me this is a advantage like if you liked your job, because you will have the deal with it in your normal life except-like you said before- you will live in the montains…

I just can deal with them anymore because i feel betrayed like a little boy who suddenly discover that all around him is a lie…

But the people who knows their s~~~ and still can play with them for me, have everything…They can taste the good things, having care with the traps…

You can enjoy the life without barriers…and me only escape from them because i’m angry and scared of end believing in a NAWALT and get close to the blue pill man that i was before…

Appreciated, man

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Toad wrote:

paranoia sounds like a strong word but i made the question to read opinions so a apreciate yours

I wasn’t trying to come across too strong.  The idea of paranoia is a person attributing or misattributing the words and actions of people as a threat.

Wariness perhaps would be a better word.  Being wary isn’t an unhealthy state of mind.  It has kept others alive and free.

What I do see as healthy is your introspection.  Knowing yourself is key in attaining self empowerment.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[ToadParticipant 271]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I wasn’t trying to come across too strong.  The idea of paranoia is a person attributing or misattributing the words and actions of people as a threat. Wariness perhaps would be a better word.  Being wary isn’t an unhealthy state of mind.  It has kept others alive and free. What I do see as healthy is your introspection.  Knowing yourself is key in attaining self empowerment.

But you are right: i need to be less wary for my own good… maybe in the future will calm my angry with the company of hookers o similar and  will add the part of sexual interaction that lack in my personal balance…

right now i’m angry because in order to get attention from females i must to be rude…and i’m not rude… i don’t want to play a role making a effort only to get laid with an totally stranger human being…

i just need to put my s~~~ together…

i hope i will get it eventually…

 

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

If you hate the person you are not showing the reason you dislike them. By pointing out their actions it shows the reason for not liking them. Also it gives me a chance not to be emotional about the person. I really don’t care because I understand why they do things the way they do.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[WolfParticipant 890]

Feminists want you to hate all women. They want to call you a misogynist. Such a term carries negative connotations, which lessons your point of view when debating their ideology. It’s a way to shame and belittle you.

Like others have said here, anger and frustration are normal when you first start taking the red pill. It’s an eye opener when you start to realize how f~~~ed up our society is and how it is destructive to men. Overtime, your anger and frustration should subside.

You need to come to one absolute reality: you can’t change or control how society views men/women relationships, but you can control your response to it. For me, I don’t let it get the better of me anymore.

[ToadParticipant 271]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

If you hate the person you are not showing the reason you dislike them. By pointing out their actions it shows the reason for not liking them. Also it gives me a chance not to be emotional about the person. I really don’t care because I understand why they do things the way they do.

Then i don’t hate anyone because i always have a personal a reason that can point… good to know 😉

And i also understand why they act like they do…if i would have their power over the other sex i’m sure i would be a completely different person…

We are we…and our circumstances…that’s clear…

[ToadParticipant 271]

Wolf wrote:

You need to come to one absolute reality: you can’t change or control how society views men/women relationships, but you can control your response to it. For me, I don’t let it get the better of me anymore.

You are full of right… i told my self “never again” in terms of female interaction…i will say the same in terms of make myself weaker with my autodestructive thoughts…

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

If you’re interested in changing your emotions/behaviour in your life I suggest you read the book awaken the Giant Within.

http://www.amazon.com/Controle-destino-Awaken-Spanish-Edition/dp/8499084974

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[ToadParticipant 271]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

If you’re interested in changing your emotions/behaviour in your life I suggest you read the book awaken the Giant Within.

Interesting… i will read it for sure…

Thank you

[Anonymous 12]

Toad wrote:

CrazyCanuck wrote:

If you hate the person you are not showing the reason you dislike them. By pointing out their actions it shows the reason for not liking them. Also it gives me a chance not to be emotional about the person. I really don’t care because I understand why they do things the way they do.

Then i don’t hate anyone because i always have a personal a reason that can point… good to know And i also understand why they act like they do…if i would have their power over the other sex i’m sure i would be a completely different person… We are we…and our circumstances…that’s clear…

 

That is what a part of MGTOW is about right there. Women or for that matter other people in general only have as much power as what we give them. What if say every man on the planet decided to stop chasing and showing an interest in women? Women would be in a complete tail spin, porn sites would be void of hits, strip clubs would close down, women in general would be wondering what the f~~~ happened, why aren’t they chasing us anymore?!

Notice with Feminism that the one area they never fight for or try and change is who approaches who? Who pays for dates? They know there is serious power right there, they sit back and wait for men to throw themselves at them while they watch from their ivory towers and laugh.

 

 

[WolfParticipant 890]

Anonymous wrote:

That is what a part of MGTOW is about right there. Women or for that matter other people in general only have as much power as what we give them. What if say every man on the planet decided to stop chasing and showing an interest in women? Women would be in a complete tail spin, porn sites would be void of hits, strip clubs would close down, women in general would be wondering what the f~~~ happened, why aren’t they chasing us anymore?!

Excellent point!

[ToadParticipant 271]

Anonymous wrote:

Women or for that matter other people in general only have as much power as what we give them

This is why i get angry when a friend increase the ego of some female for free, because he thinks that is the right thing to do…

I also met a man who would f~~~ virtually every woman that he meet. telling me that the man is a hunter and should go always chasing womens in order to get the majority amount of them…

Needless to say that when we are in a group of friend he always goes away searching for women and you can’t count with him anymore even when we just arrived to the place…

I sometimes told them… i make you a favor because when i reject them i decrease the level of their ego and i make easier for you to get laid…

they laugh… but is true

[Anonymous 12]

Toad wrote:

Morlock wrote:

Women or for that matter other people in general only have as much power as what we give them

This is why i get angry when a friend increase the ego of some female for free, because he thinks that is the right thing to do… I also met a man who would f~~~ virtually every woman that he meet. telling me that the man is a hunter and should go always chasing womens in order to get the majority amount of them… Needless to say that when we are in a group of friend he always goes away searching for women and you can’t count with him anymore even when we just arrived to the place… I sometimes told them… i make you a favor because when i reject them i decrease the level of their ego and i make easier for you to get laid… they laugh… but is true

I was told a long time ago by a woman that the woman chooses the man. This is very true, some men may approach random women and try their luck “cold calling” as it were.

This is what I do. I survey the scene whether it be a bar or anywhere else, a woman who is interested in you will let you know, you will still have to approach her but she has opened the door as it were by smiling at you, making eye contact or whatever. As long as you aren’t a complete dick when you approach her you can’t lose after that. Most of these “Hunter” types are just expending energy by playing the numbers. Stupid and costly.

In the street it is similar, never compliment a woman on her looks, compliment her on her dress or hat, shoes whatever, if she is interested she will say more than just thank you. Let them do the work for you.

 

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