The Marine Corps Prepares for Women in Combat Roles

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Ill find some better bloodier combat footage later when i have time

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Anonymous 11]

These Kurdish women are very effective as light infantry. It has to be very, very bad for ISIS moral to be killed by a woman. They are also motivated in that they are fighting for their homeland, children, parents, and lives.

The Soviets used female snipers with great effect against the Germans in WWII too.

Roles where the carried loads are light or technology provides assistance insulate women against their inherent upper body weakness. I’d like to see a 130lb woman drag a 225lb fallen man to safety as quickly as a man can. They have to lower the standards for women to pass so the women should only be allowed roles that are suitable for them. PC is going to get many women and men killed. We should embrace our relative strengths and weaknesses not deny they exist.

This is an apple to oranges comparison though. Spoiled coddled weak willed Ameriskanks come from a completely different environment than these Kurdish and Russian women. These women are and were fighting for their very lives and country.

In America’s case, we are simply meddling in other countries affairs for some vague neocon world hegemony agenda. Look at the f~~~ing mess we made out of Libya. I would never lay down my life for neocons even as a man.

We have way, way more terrorist incidents now than we did prior to the global war on terror. It’s almost a weekly occurrence now these days.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Afrer fall of the Ottoman Enpire the ME should have been split up equitably giving each group a homeland and then when things were stable WE SHOULD HAVE LEFT.
The British and French had a lot to do with that.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ncfm-will-argue-challenge-to-male-only-draft-registration-at-ninth-circuit-court-of-appeals-300188106.html

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

NCFM is an old MRA group that is challenging the male only draft.

Push comes to shove i think the USMC can develop effective tactics for all female units.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/kurdish-female-suicide-bomber-attacks-isis-in-fight-for-kobani-9776779.html

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[GreekDragoonParticipant 460]

MgtowWave I am sorry but light infantry is dead infantry in modern fighting. I can go in extreme detail if you want but the reason the Syrian and Iraqi armies failed is the same reason as to why all Arab armies failed to defeat Israel and that reason is its elitist officer corp that is completely disconnected from the army which means that they cannot inspire nor train their troops.

Heavy infanty and Armor will annihilate light infantry in any but the most extreme ratios, the difference in equipment, weaponry and tactics is just too great. If the light infantry proceeds to wage a guerrilla war then they will bleed they heaviest and in all of history the guerillas have been the ones who took the most casualties.

The Soviets did use women in the front but what historians fail to mention is that the women units suffered atrocious casualties and begun to be relegated to rear guard duties after Stalingrad when it became evident that the Werhmacht had lost its best at the grinder by that point.

By Operation Bagradion there were no more female units at the front.

[bob__Participant 946]

“Heavy infanty and Armor will annihilate light infantry in any but the most extreme ratios, the difference in equipment, weaponry and tactics is just too great. If the light infantry proceeds to wage a guerrilla war then they will bleed they heaviest and in all of history the guerillas have been the ones who took the most casualties.”

You can mobilize a much larger percentage of your population as light infantry than heavy infantry or armor. Every unit of armor requires many more people back at home working in factories. Guerilla armies tend to take more casualties but they also tend to win the wars. Vietnam vs US for example. The US won most of the “body counts” but lost the war because Vietnam could mobilize almost their whole population as light infantry and win by sheer numbers.

[Anonymous 11]

GreekDragoon wrote:

The Soviets did use women in the front but what historians fail to mention is that the women units suffered atrocious casualties

The Soviets had a very serious fight on their hands against the Germans and were probably forced to do it. Interesting, GD. History is always PC scrubbed especially these days.

I’ve never been in the military, but women are never cool under any kind of pressure from what I’ve witnessed over the years. They fold and just cry or either call for white knights to rescue them. I don’t really care how these movies portray them as super warriorettes killing hundreds of men while never running out of ammo. The ones they deploy to sea in the Navy either get knocked up or start selling access to the pussy for extra money.

Overall, it’s a very, very bad idea. Men are better warriors for the same reason women like to f~~~ Chads. Evolution enforced separate roles for each sex to maximize survival chances.

Do chimps send their females out to attack other chimp bands. No, would be the answer.

[GreekDragoonParticipant 460]

bob__ wrote:

“Heavy infanty and Armor will annihilate light infantry in any but the most extreme ratios, the difference in equipment, weaponry and tactics is just too great. If the light infantry proceeds to wage a guerrilla war then they will bleed they heaviest and in all of history the guerillas have been the ones who took the most casualties.”

You can mobilize a much larger percentage of your population as light infantry than heavy infantry or armor. Every unit of armor requires many more people back at home working in factories. Guerilla armies tend to take more casualties but they also tend to win the wars. Vietnam vs US for example. The US won most of the “body counts” but lost the war because Vietnam could mobilize almost their whole population as light infantry and win by sheer numbers.

Sorry but this is just wrong on so many levels.

Successful conscription demands a lot of logistics, pre-planning and training and all of the conscripted armies of WW2 bar the early war soviets (because of the extreme casualties they took) and the communist chinese were heavy infantry.

A mobilization of the populace in a total war situation comes in two ways, first their is the meat for the grinder and then there is the industrial capacity of the nation. An army doesn’t march just on its stomach but also on the other consumables and weaponry that must be provided domestically if the army is to be victorious.

A regular army’s job is to break through the lines and capture the population and industrial centers of the enemy which will break the industrial backing of the nation. After that the army either has to stand down and surrender or go guerilla in which case they will be slaughtered by superior troops due to the aforementioned industrial capacity.

A guerilla force, even one comprised exclusively from light infantry cannot ever win against a regular army without foreign backing to replace the industrial capacity needed for war. That’s the rule of modern warfare.

The US didn’t lose the war of Vietnam, they chose not to win it. North Vietnam was a sovereign nation with both an intact and mobilized industrial capacity and foreign backing by the USSR; the Vietcong were a nuisance that was slaughtered in droves and would be completely impotent had the US gone after North Vietnam in regular battle instead of pushing for the solution of two states ala Korea. True the USSR would react to a US invasion of North Vietnam but without such an invasion Vietnam wasn’t even a grinder, it was a stupid fight between a Titan and a midget were the midget struck with all its might while the Titan had decided to just use its little pinkie.

Whenever I hear stupid leftists here say that the US lost Vietnam I want to laugh at their faces because of how stupid the propaganda they were fed is.

[bob__Participant 946]

A regular army’s job is to break through the lines and capture the population and industrial centers of the enemy which will break the industrial backing of the nation.

A guerilla army has no lines to break. A guerilla army doesn’t need industrial centers, it lives off the land. “Capturing” the population just inspires more people to fight the invading force. An American guerilla army beat the British Empire which had the best “regular” army in the world at the time.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

the stupidity of females in combat are covered here :

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[GreekDragoonParticipant 460]

bob__ wrote:

A regular army’s job is to break through the lines and capture the population and industrial centers of the enemy which will break the industrial backing of the nation.

A guerilla army has no lines to break. A guerilla army doesn’t need industrial centers, it lives off the land. “Capturing” the population just inspires more people to fight the invading force. An American guerilla army beat the British Empire which had the best “regular” army in the world at the time.

This ain’t the musket age where you need some weapons smiths and black powder production in order to offer meaningful resistance.

Just the modern ammo needs a basic industrial capacity to produce in enough quantities to make a difference, standard issue weapons need entire chains of factories while heavy weapons and explosives are heavily controlled.

Guerillas can not manufacture enough weapons and ammo for a modern battlefield that’s the hard truth, food and clothing is easy but weapons that are of use?

Not without industrial support by a foreign nation.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

My son is draftable.He still gets letters and pamphlets in the mail from recuiters.

Your daughter is not.

My son legally HAD to sign for Selective Service.

As far as i am concerned, put women in light infantry units and to hell with them.

They want to be able to vote.They can face death and dismemberment just like my son.If and when we have another war.

If women dont like to face death then they can campeign to repeal their voting rights because we dont have votings rights we have votings privlidges.
Earned privligdes.

These women dont understand that.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[AttonParticipant]

Put them into women’s only units and use them as cannon fodder.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[experiencedParticipant]

MgtowWave wrote:

My son is draftable.He still gets letters and pamphlets in the mail from recuiters.

Your daughter is not.

My son legally HAD to sign for Selective Service.

As far as i am concerned, put women in light infantry units and to hell with them.

They want to be able to vote.They can face death and dismemberment just like my son.If and when we have another war.

If women dont like to face death then they can campeign to repeal their voting rights because we dont have votings rights we have votings privlidges.
Earned privligdes.

These women dont understand that.

This

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[ChuddoxParticipant 585]

USMC already did a study on this in the ’90’s if I remember right. All female, and mixed male/female combat units were a disaster across the board, with the exception of units using light rifles like the M2. Women simply do not have the same upper body strength as men. They can’t haul heavy equipment, set it up, break it down, or operate it with near the efficiency of a man. The End. I wish it were the case, but it isn’t. Putting a woman in the same position as a man and expecting her to perform appropriately is worthy of ridicule. it would be laughable if for the fact that many fine men will die because some woman is physiologically incapable of doing the job she is tasked with.

“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

bob__ wrote:

A guerilla army has no lines to break. A guerilla army doesn’t need industrial centers, it lives off the land. “Capturing” the population just inspires more people to fight the invading force. An American guerilla army beat the British Empire which had the best “regular” army in the world at the time.

There is nothing inherently special about guerilla tactics. It’s what an army does when it has no other options. Guerrilla armies are only really successful against regular forces when there is a clear disparity in objectives and ethics between the forces. If the regular forces abandon the “moral high ground”, their guerrilla opponents are hosed.

MgtowWave wrote:

These women dont understand that.

But they do understand it.

They just don’t care.

And that is infinitely worse.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

As far as i am concerned put the women in women only units with weapons they can handle and and let them face death as Kurdish women are in Iraq,Syria and Turkey right now.

Lesson has to be learned the HARD way.

Thousands of Kurdish women had died fighting ISIS in the last two years.

American women can die too.

I have no more objection to women dyeng then men dyeing.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

But like i said the USMC and the politicans in Washington dont know what they are doing.

I have been watching combat footage of Kurds fighting ISIS since the battle of Kobani.

About half the Kurdish militia is women and they were running out of ammo,and pushed back into the center of the city until they got ammo drops from us and air support.

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