The Manipulated Man & Briffault’s Law

[MrBurnsParticipant 83]

I’m halfway through reading “The Manipulated Man” By Esther Vilar. Love it so far. Just taking a break to write out my own thoughts.

Well first, let me say I got in a huge fight at work today with a feminazi. So I’m in a p~~~ed off mood and this might come off as senseless ranting. Also I’m not saying anything that hasn’t been stated before.

Anyway, the book. In one section she says women aren’t emotional, that men have been conditioned (by women) to hide their emotions since birth. So a man who cries a single tear when his wife dies will see a woman bawling over a spilled drink and believe that what she must be feeling is that much more intense. So men end up feeling like they are cold and callous, when it’s really just an act women put on to get something from us.

I was like “holy s~~~, I know!” It got me thinking about the perceived value of sex. Let’s be honest, women want sex as much as we do. Possibly more when you consider they are the ones who own a clitoris – the only organ with the sole purpose of giving pleasure. All straight women want the dick. Maybe not your dick and maybe not at that particular moment, but in general, they’re just as horny as we are.

But it’s always the man who chases. The average man is open about his desires while the average woman puts on an act and pretends to be ‘above’ basic sluttish behaviour. She lets the man chases, therefore the woman has more perceived value in the exchange and gets to dictate the conditions (e.g. who pays for dates and stuff). Briffault’s Law, anyone? You needn’t go far to find examples of this. Successful PUAs have trained themselves to hide their desires, to push and pull so the woman does the chasing. They get women to drop the charade and get a much fairer deal.

Feminists on the other hand want to take the over-acting of emotions to greater extremes. They have ’emotional breakdowns’ and raise hell because they regretted f~~~ing a guy, and since it was such an emotionally ‘traumatic’ experience, they want us to legally call something rape which is in fact… not even close.
There are feminists who say “They real victims of war are women”
Feminists want safe spaces for women on college campuses to cry, and talk… while protesting safe spaces for men.

The list goes on, but always with the same goals:
1. Make women look like victims (And men, the monsters)
2. Get sympathy

Feminists see guys who mess with their system (MGTOW, PUAs, MRAs) and they take it as a great threat to their existence.

It’s all connected.

[experiencedParticipant]

@aaron. AGREED &

3. GET MONEY
4. GET POWER
5. GET UNEARNED PRESTIGE / RESPECT

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[hmskl’dParticipant 6405]

Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

Has a female ever existed who could care less about prospects or short term material gain?

[HitmanParticipant]

great book, eye opening.
parts are supposedly “satire ” but it rings true throughout.
i believe it’s in the archives here to listen to ..
we have been conditioned allright ..
they start at the time of birth, male babies recieve less affection..
shamed for crying..
shamed for almost everything we do ..
F~~~ THAT .
the idea is to ” un-f~~~ ” yourself..
to be who you were meant to be before they got into your head ..
here is where i began my journey into me..
de-program the brain-washing .

[Anonymous 3]

Eh, I think you have some misconceptions.

PUAs are pussy beggars and none of them are successful. It’s just a sham. They are jumping to the tune of slutty women but just convince themselves they aren’t.

A rather recent study shows there is an attachment spectrum, with the neediest men constantly flirting and begging for attention and over-rating themselves, while on the opposite end the men don’t chase at all. PUAs are the former. MGTOW are the latter. It turns out, as this study indicates and as most of us have experienced, women WANT the MGTOW man and will constantly beg for his attention, but they’re stuck with the PUAs that they don’t want.

Now the other thing is sex. Women’s sex drives are nowhere near a man’s. Women really only want sex for reproductive purposes, so only during ovulation really, and will also try to trade sex for financial and status incentives. But they don’t actually “need” sex like a man does.

Testosterone is responsible for the sex drive. Men’s testosterone, especially in their late teens and early 20s, is many, many times higher than women’s. A woman may get an urge, outside of reproductive desires, maybe once a week, and to women that is a HIGH sex drive. I’ve been around women that states as much to me, models and the like. They are stunned that for a man it’s every day. Some women have had testosterone therapy for medical purposes, and they have come away amazed that is how a man thinks, and that’s only a fraction of a man’s natural testosterone.

So no, men and women are never going to have the same sexual desires. It’s nowhere near the same. It’s male hamstering to claim otherwise, but most men are desperate to tie sex to their egos, so they’ll make that mistake time and time again and get wrapped around a woman’s finger.

Fortunately, for a man testosterone and desire drop with age. Around the 50s men and women are a lot closer to desire, and generally speaking neither has much.

The rest of what you wrote I think is spot on. I do not believe women are emotional. Actually I don’t think they really experience any emotions at all. I’ve seen so many instances where a woman puts on a show, and when everyone ignores her suddenly she stops, re-asses, and then figures out another tactic or repeats the same one again at a more opportune time. Women are cold, calculating, manipulative creatures. They are designed that way, because they will move on according to Briffault’s law, and not some ridiculous notion of love or loyalty.

You can either love women or understand them.

[Anonymous 0]

This is the place to rant Aaron. Every rant confirms something another is feeling but doesn’t have words for. Rant all ya want.

[QuietlyquietlyParticipant 728]

Yes, I liked that book too. Wait til you get to the bit where she says that actually, although women may like sex, what gives them the greatest pleasure is shopping, and that absolutely trumps sex every time.

Acquisition of stuff > bodily feelings.

[Anonymous 2]

I cry at certain points in movies because of emotions. I have been conditioned to hide this. Women however, never seem to be emotionally affected so strongly. I never believed women to be as emotional as men, and have always seen how cruel and cold they could be. I won’t make the mistake thinking a women could be as emotionally invested in me, as I could be in her.

I always try to be mindfull of this because I do have a relationship, but I don’t want to be depressed for weeks when it eventually ends.

[kizellParticipant 368]

The greatest passages from the book involve the suppression of male emotions, the conditioning of men to be addicted to female praise, and the bulls~~~ notion that women are the more beautiful of the 2 sexes.

These 3 passages still hold great truth in today’s world even though the book was written long ago.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Great information (I don’t think you are ranting)

I have to get this book.
Ordering tonight. Thanks

[ConstantineParticipant 4416]

Yup, I’m halfway through The Manipulated Man myself.

I’ve also just finished reading Stand By Your Manhood, by Peter Lloyd. You guys ought to check out that one aswell, it’s f~~~ing paramount. There’s an entire chapter dedicated to why circumcision is bulls~~~. You’ll need to wince through a couple of painful personal stories, but it’s worth the effort.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

Eh, I think you have some misconceptions.

PUAs are pussy beggars and none of them are successful. It’s just a sham. They are jumping to the tune of slutty women but just convince themselves they aren’t.

A rather recent study shows there is an attachment spectrum, with the neediest men constantly flirting and begging for attention and over-rating themselves, while on the opposite end the men don’t chase at all. PUAs are the former. MGTOW are the latter. It turns out, as this study indicates and as most of us have experienced, women WANT the MGTOW man and will constantly beg for his attention, but they’re stuck with the PUAs that they don’t want.

Now the other thing is sex. Women’s sex drives are nowhere near a man’s. Women really only want sex for reproductive purposes, so only during ovulation really, and will also try to trade sex for financial and status incentives. But they don’t actually “need” sex like a man does.

Testosterone is responsible for the sex drive. Men’s testosterone, especially in their late teens and early 20s, is many, many times higher than women’s. A woman may get an urge, outside of reproductive desires, maybe once a week, and to women that is a HIGH sex drive. I’ve been around women that states as much to me, models and the like. They are stunned that for a man it’s every day. Some women have had testosterone therapy for medical purposes, and they have come away amazed that is how a man thinks, and that’s only a fraction of a man’s natural testosterone.

So no, men and women are never going to have the same sexual desires. It’s nowhere near the same. It’s male hamstering to claim otherwise, but most men are desperate to tie sex to their egos, so they’ll make that mistake time and time again and get wrapped around a woman’s finger.

Fortunately, for a man testosterone and desire drop with age. Around the 50s men and women are a lot closer to desire, and generally speaking neither has much.

The rest of what you wrote I think is spot on. I do not believe women are emotional. Actually I don’t think they really experience any emotions at all. I’ve seen so many instances where a woman puts on a show, and when everyone ignores her suddenly she stops, re-asses, and then figures out another tactic or repeats the same one again at a more opportune time. Women are cold, calculating, manipulative creatures. They are designed that way, because they will move on according to Briffault’s law, and not some ridiculous notion of love or loyalty.

You can either love women or understand them.

I cannot agree more about that post. My life’s experiences, with a marriage and before it a couple of “important” relationships and a lot of “almost PUA-like lifestyle” (though with a different style: more “romantic” and mainly pursuing a week / some weeks lasting “relationships” rather than one night stands) fully confirm all that.
I think that biology plays a major role here: women are the only female mammals who doesn’t have seasonal mating but have a “permanent” sex drive. Women are far hornier than the average female mammal. I even think that women horniness played a major role in inventing the idea of family and shaping our civilization.
That doesn’t mean women are as horny as men are. It’s not even closer. And it’s exactly due this difference that men always have been providers and protectors of women: just imagine a primal jungle with women hornier just like as men are, women pursuing every day sex. Such women would have had far less chances of surviving, because men would have f~~~ed them, then leaved them pregnant. That’s why women still have an instinct for performing “slut shaming” – because in a primitive environment being a “slut” leave a woman without men’s protection. The average woman wasn’t so good as a man at surviving in the jungle, due lesser hunting skills (i.e. sense of orientation) but that wasn’t her main problem: her main problem was when she was pregnant.
That’s why women are SCARED by MGTOW: because according their instinct when men don’t bother about them, they’re dead in the primal jungle.
All the rest we can read in Esther Vilar’s book is just women training men in a way that reinforce the chances of surviving for both the women and their offspring, and it’s biologically meant for the surviving of humanity. Not a bad thing.
The matter is: I don’t live in the primal jungle, but in a society with computers and space travels.
The matter is: I like to think about myself as a full human being, and that’s much more than a provider and protector.
That’s why I reject female primitiveness AND male primitiveness: I don’t go around making pregnant women. Nor even when I had a lot of sexual adventures I maked them pregnant: I used contraception. So, since with contraception exists, there’s no need of female primitiveness, and I reject it.

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[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

The moral of the story is that if a female is interested in you, she is hunting you.

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