The Loop I was In

[InTheCountryParticipant 199]

I figured out the loop I was in.

I always refused to conform to the degree necessary to attract women who I would be interested in having vaginal sex with. That is, women who naturally aroused the attraction hormones within me to a high level. So, I would basically get BJs from whoever would do it. Then, I would go back to the same source and end up having to pay for the sex favors with a relationship. Then, I would be grossed out by having to kiss the woman I was with.

Truth of the matter is, I don’t bow, so it never worked in the end. The women who are attractive demand bowing and servitude, which is why I never conformed to get them.

It all starts with sex of some kind, and then going back for more. Then, you END UP in a relationship.

Any time I found a woman I was attracted to (only happened twice), the hormones would amount to “love” and I would go through hell. A good video that taught me about my loop was “stages of male well being” by Paul Elam. I used to try to correct my issues with not being a priority with my single mother and looking for love to cover that wound in women. The cycle of s~~~ relationships is directly linked to the roles and dramas experienced in early family life. I eventually stopped trying to correct these “wrongs of yesterday” by “trying to find a woman to love me.”

After many years, I solved the problem by looking at why I was choosing to stay in those relationships, rather than focusing on what the women did or did not do.

I recently ended a relationship with a woman of 1.5 years, and feel no animosity or anger. I just looked at why I consented to it and where I decided to ignore the warnings, full responsibility and brutal honesty with myself. In this relationship, I asked her for full honesty at the beginning (ya right, I had already been red pilled). She assured me of course, and I thought, “well hey, if you profess to be the great unicorn, go ahead, show me.” Anyway, a year later it turned out that she was with a guy right up until she came to see me even though her story was “she was single for 6 months.”

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

InTheCountry wrote:

The women who are attractive demand bowing and servitude

Fixed that for you.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[InTheCountryParticipant 199]

True, but it does take more begging and conformity to please and get sexual access to the more attractive women.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

InTheCountry wrote:

True, but it does take more begging and conformity to please and get sexual access to the more attractive women.

No. It takes not caring about getting their pants. These “more attractive” women are so used to having men go through all sorts of gymnastics to get access to their magic vaginas that they are bored with it. When they meet a guy who has a “my way or the highway” mentality, they go nuts. This is why you see most of them with the “bad boy / criminal” type.

Try telling a “9” that she could be a “6” if she spent 4-6 weeks in the gym. She may outwardly scoff, but in her hamster cage, she will obsess about that for months. She will likely become suddenly interested in you as well.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Ewan wrote:

True, but it does take more begging and conformity to please and get sexual access to the more attractive women.

No. It takes not caring about getting their pants. These “more attractive” women are so used to having men go through all sorts of gymnastics to get access to their magic vaginas that they are bored with it. When they meet a guy who has a “my way or the highway” mentality, they go nuts. This is why you see most of them with the “bad boy / criminal” type.

Try telling a “9” that she could be a “6” if she spent 4-6 weeks in the gym. She may outwardly scoff, but in her hamster cage, she will obsess about that for months. She will likely become suddenly interested in you as well.

I can testify to all of this.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

You know what makes you fall in love as a man? Vasopressin. You know how that s~~~ gets in your blood? Sex. It’s secreted during sex. If you have sex with the same person long enough, you will build a vasopressin bond with them and BOOM, you feel like you’re in love. As long as you get regular sex, the vasopressin keeps flowing. They cut it off, withdrawal. Withdrawal is DEVASTATING.

That’s the loop you were in. You were in vasopressin addiction, one 30-minute high at a time.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

I can testify to all of this.

Same. The only reason my ex-wife ever got interested in me was because A) I was at the time wildly indifferent to women and dating and B) all of my coworkers (I broke my first rule) told her I was basically a bad boy (I wasn’t, I just hung out with people of questionable moral character).

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

You know what makes you fall in love as a man? Vasopressin. You know how that s~~~ gets in your blood? Sex. It’s secreted during sex. If you have sex with the same person long enough, you will build a vasopressin bond with them and BOOM, you feel like you’re in love. As long as you get regular sex, the vasopressin keeps flowing. They cut it off, withdrawal. Withdrawal is DEVASTATING.

That’s the loop you were in. You were in vasopressin addiction, one 30-minute high at a time.

That must be why I simply can’t make myself give a f~~~ about any women I have sex with anymore.

There is no more vasopressin being secreted. No matter how many times I have sex with ANYONE. It used to happen, but now it doesn’t anymore.

The irony of the truth about women and love no longer being suppressed, has been the suppression of vasopressin production.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[InTheCountryParticipant 199]

Same thing happened to me. I was waiting for my ex to leave after I couldn’t bother having sex or kissing her anymore. For the whole relationship, I did not fall in love because I couldn’t. The experiences I’ve had made it so I stay conscious and don’t fall in love. She was confused and said, “I’ve never experienced this before.”

She was a pathological liar though.

[InTheCountryParticipant 199]

Isn’t it something though.. if you tell a woman to leave your house after you realize she is a borderline, there is this fear that a police cruiser will show up at your house because she wants revenge. Horrible.

They can have the power to end a relationship, but if you tell them to leave, sometimes it makes them want your blood.

[JVBParticipant]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Ewan wrote:

True, but it does take more begging and conformity to please and get sexual access to the more attractive women.

No. It takes not caring about getting their pants. These “more attractive” women are so used to having men go through all sorts of gymnastics to get access to their magic vaginas that they are bored with it. When they meet a guy who has a “my way or the highway” mentality, they go nuts. This is why you see most of them with the “bad boy / criminal” type.

Try telling a “9” that she could be a “6” if she spent 4-6 weeks in the gym. She may outwardly scoff, but in her hamster cage, she will obsess about that for months. She will likely become suddenly interested in you as well.

Spot on. Take em or leave em attitude gets your helmet gobbled every time.

Peace is > piece.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

You know all those ads telling you about how to get your MOJO back? It does make you wonder if ED is related to women having many partners and your body going. “F~~~ THAT!” Nothing to slay here, move on to greener pastures.

I have noticed that things I use to ENJOY about women were things that women did outside of sex that made sex worth while. I mean EVERYTHING that women say they are about is a BOLD FACE lie.

Men all over the world are starting to see that women have played themselves out. There is no VALUE in a woman anymore. The whole IDEA was that SHE was YOURS. AND that she WANTED YOU.

But with women making it painfully clear that women only want everything BUT YOU, what’s the point?

Fake up, and all the other s~~~ women do have made women only more attracted to themselves. Men on the other hand, the rush of f~~~ing some strange lasts about as long as the rape allegation clock starts ticking.

So what is left? Nothing. Without women being trustworthy, all the magic ends.

The ONE thing a MAN is WANTING in women , the majority of women can not provide.

So what do women have left for men to be attracted to them? Well, hate to break this to so many women. But that old amish girl who has nothing to offer to a man but a Kind demeanor and just the promise of being faithful, and not a slut is all a man wants in life.

That puts out over 90% of women on Planet earth today. Women are all used cars today. And if you are going to build something, you want to start out with a CLEAN sheet of paper.

What does today’s MODERN women offer or even NOT BRING to the table?

The deal about women losing their virginity was a big deal once. But now WOMEN want MEN to take on ALL their s~~~, and then understand that MEN are suppose to pay FULL PRICE for a Worn out used car that will only be good as long as the short term LEASE expires?

If you would not buy used underwear , why pay ANY price for Damaged goods?

And they keep telling all of us that WOMEN are better EXPERIENCED? Well if the gears are worn and the shift lever is lose, and the Tires are already worn? WHO is going to even want that?

It’s not that men have a double standard. Its that MEN are TIRED of the BULLS~~~.

Its not MEN that can not Pair bond, or stay Faithful. ITS WOMEN.

Its WOMEN that wanted this, and now THEY can deal with it.

They keep telling women their body is a temple. Well, MY god is a SELFISH god. I want a temple that has not been used by everyone around the block. And I don’t want to think about anyone else being there before me if I am going to put my faith in a woman.

You would not buy a used engine and put it in a new car. And you would not bother buying used tires not knowing if they are going to go flat on you down the road.

WHY pay FULL price or even BOTHER with women that come with ZERO warranty, Super Sketchy history, and a Guarantee of problems down the road.

Sexisit or not, you want my time, you have to be worth it. The day of used cars being valued as new are no longer worth the cost of investment if it’s just going to be a lemon in a few short months.

Just like when a company goes under, or files for Bankruptcy. Some companies just don’t have any assets you want to purchase.

I know it sounds bad on paper, but women don’t want men with kids, and men don’t want women that absolute lemons.

Sure, you may be good for a quick trip to the store, or a night at the racetrack. But if you can’t make it down the 1/4 mile, who’s kidding who?

MEN don’t NEED women for sex. We wanted to give that to you. WOMEN are the ones that needed all the Fuel, and the TANK has run dry.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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