The Ideal MGTOW woman

[JinParticipant 77]

Hey everyone! I’m new to this site and new to the idea of MGTOW. I’ve watched a bunch of MGTOW youtubers and read a lot of the information on this site. I know the belief in this philosophy is not letting women control us. But I’ve heard there are mgtow guys who have girlfriends. In short I’m just wondering what would be the perfect mgtow woman. How would they be able to coexist with us men without the many problems we face.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

[BryantParticipant 229]

i dont think there is such a thing as a “perfect” mgtow woman, i am mgtow and i have a ole lady who i have been with for 5 years, she says she agrees with alot of it but i dont think she truly likes the fact i agree with mgtow completely, ive always shared these viewpoints and am surprised that such a movement is gaining speed, im sorry to say with the way society as a whole in america is currently, with social media and divorce courts man i dont believe there is any “perfect” mgtow woman out there, your just a wallet man.

is she wont sign a prenup saying she aint getting s~~~ she didnt buy herself, then she dont love you

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[BryantParticipant 229]

and yes i realize im not full mgtow because i still have an ole lady, and btw the term “ole lady” i use is in reference to the bikers usage of it, she is my property, i pay all the bills and she respects me for it, respects me and dosent expect me to buy her things EVER, cleans my apartment, cooks, and services my dick quite well(head), oh yeah and she dosent social network and knows when men are talking to her just to get with her, she knows i shouldn’t be responsible to defend her honor at all times, and is quite good at cold shoulder, and she carry’s pepper spray. take this as you will but it works out quite well for me

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Great question.

You know, technically it could be argued that Albert Einstein was a “married MGTOW” if you read the terms of his marriage contract. Here are some highlights:

A. You will make sure…

*that my clothes and laundry are kept in good order;

*that I will receive my three meals regularly in my room;

*that my bedroom and study are kept neat, and especially that my desk is left for my use only.

B. You will renounce all personal relations with me insofar as they are not completely necessary for social reasons. Specifically, you will forego…

*my sitting at home with you;

*my going out or traveling with you.

C. You will obey the following points in your relations with me…

*you will not expect any intimacy from me, nor will you reproach me in any way;

*you will stop talking to me if I request it;

*you will leave my bedroom or study immediately without protest if I request it.

D. You will undertake not to belittle me in front of our children, either through words or behavior.

The bolded points are particularly interesting because they absolve him of any obligation to spend any time with her. But “you will stop talking to me if I request it” is my personal favorite, and for fun, I once drafted up a marriage contract which outline all of MY terms. That’s number one – right at the top.

I showed my then girlfriend (who was SERIOUSLY pushing for marriage) and she thought I was joking.

I said NO. I’m perfectly serious. Asking you to stop talking is asking NOTHING from you. It takes less effort and energy than even applying lipstick. Compared to all the mile long list of bulls~~~ women expect to be “happy”….. if my wife isn’t willing to DO NOTHING to please her man, then she is simply not marriageable.

And then we broke up.

Because she didn’t give a f~~~ about what was important to ME – my needs, or desires.
All she cared about was HERSELF.

Busted.

Back to the original point, completely not associating with women is damn near impossible and rather unrealistic. They are 51% of the western population and even if you didn’t want to SPEAK to one, you would be more likely to speak to a woman – before a man. A MGTOW assumes 100% agency in his life and is ultimately “god and creator” of his personal universe. Cohabitation or marriage / relationships don’t permit the modern western man to be able to control the outcome in the eyes of the law – even when he WANTS it to work. One phone call to 911 (on her whim) and he is sleeping in jail tonight. So he had better do exactly as she says, and the Enistein contract would be thrown out even if “the perfect mgtow woman” BEGGED to agree to it.

Thats the realistic and practical side. The theory side would be that all the terms are yours to determine, so if you’re shagging like a machine or have a regular girl in your life who isn’t “the camel in the tent”, then who cares if she’s “perfect”. When good enough for YOU is what matters.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

Talking about the ideal woman is like talking about the ideal gas laws.

pV = nRT only works in ideal conditions which are nonexistent in the real world. It is only useful for academic and intellectual purposes. In the real world, you have to add other constants alongside it to make it work.

Similarly, the ideal woman, the NAWALT, The One, the unicorn, only exist in ideal conditions which are nonexistent in the real world. It is only useful for theoretical discussions. In real life it is always AWALT.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I’d settle for nothing short of a Stepford Wife, but maybe my standards are too high — they certainly are not realistic.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[a bananaParticipant 288]

darth sin nailed it

sure a nawalt might exist but it would take very specific circumstances(which must be mainted most likely by men)

this would take alot of effort on our part and would also be removing some freedom from women which i dont agree with, let em do what they want-most will choose to be “awalt”

“they’re all nawalt’s until they’re not”

[Anonymous 2]

My take on the ideal MGTOW woman really is more a a situation that the man creates.

F*ck her, but, don’t marry, impregnate, move in with/cut a key for her.   If she insists on any of the prior, say no, and kick her to the curb if it comes to that…plenty more..

I subscribe to keeping at least 3 contacts that you can hook up with, with a quick text, her place, yours or a hotel.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Sorry for the rant but the meat and potatos of my point are at the bottom.

A woman voluntarily undertaking this one would not present a problem with all of the before mentioned.

Keymaster wrote:

D. You will undertake not to belittle me in front of our children, either through words or behavior.

This particular behavior requires a personality, set of values, and training that is not taught to women today.  I remember in my youth, encountering women in their 60’s that were taught by their mothers that their relationship with their husbands is their first priority in their minds and hearts despite any immediate needs of children.  I challenge you to find any young couple with babies in which the father doesn’t still value his relationship more than with his children.

This sounds reasonable to me.  After all, who do you marry?  The person you are standing at the alter with.  You don’t make a lifetime commitment to children, her parents, her siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, or friends.

I have three sons.  I only started to value my relationship with my sons more than my wife when I finally came to the conclusion that my wife (now ex-wife) was insane.  You really have to pity her.  I believe that on top of everything male she resented about me and our oldest, she figured out that my son and I are more intelligent than her.  I am now focused on the younger two and am trying to prevent their feminization.

At any rate, I believe that a truly ideal MGTOW woman, is a woman that thinks like a man.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[experiencedParticipant]

Ref: Darth ref: Banana, “they’re all nawalt’s until they’re not”    this normally coincides with their thinking they’ve got you locked in to the explosive collar. 

Awalt, temporarily Nawalt…………………………………………………………………………..Awalt.

A buddy had one move in and after several months she kept gaining and gaining weight,

Tom Leykis had one, two weeks before it would’ve been a lock, started acting – her true self,

Vector had one  got drunk, said her true colors,

 

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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