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Worst thing is the world is to talk to a chick and it turns into this… and I’ve had it happen 8/10 times.
Me:: Did you see the news yesterday? I couldn’t believe it.
Her:: Those people are just idiots, I would never act that way. I’m much to mature for that, I think that they shouldn’t act like that. I mean that’s just ridiculous.
Me:: Well my sister is just finishing up her accounting education.
Her:: Yes I was thinking of going into that myself, but I was wondering, how could I get into Pre-med, I mean, I need to be able to support a certain lifestyle and I want to make sure I can support myself. I was going to be a Chemistry Major, but then I decided that I shouldn’t do that, because I realized that it would be a waste of time. I just feel like it wouldn’t be the right choice.
Me:: Um yes well that’s great, did you see the last soccer game? Our middle school won it in OT 2-1.
Her:: Yes I know it was great, I was on a soccer team when I was little and this girl was so mean to me. OMG like, one time she p~~~ed me off by saying I hand-balled, when really I didn’t, but she didn’t know.. and I was so angry. I couldn’t believe she could accuse me of that. I had to tell our coach after practice, I think I may have cried.
Me:: Well okay, dinner is ready. I’m going to go eat now. It was nice talking to you.
Her:: I enjoyed talking to you too. I may be around later, but then I may go out to get some food too. I’m not sure yet, I don’t really feel hungry, but if you call and I don’t pickup, I’m probably with Heather and we’re getting a bite. I’m not sure what we’ll eat though, maybe sushi. I like sushi.
Me:: O–okay. I’ll call you later.
Her:: Kbai muah! <3
Me:: *walks to nearest toilet, drops the phone in— shudders*
I’ve met women like this many times. They just can’t seem to pull themselves apart from their own narrative. I think that is half the problem of the narcissistic female condition, because it’s all based on how they “feel”. Anyone else met a woman like this?
This is a good observation. I see this too everywhere. My ex girlfriend would constantly talk about her family and her goals and only pretend to to acknowledge my aspirations and goals. What I couldn’t stand was constantly pretending that I cared. I like conversations that are stimulating where I feel I got smarter or gained some sort of valuable insight from the other person but this never happened in my relationships. The conversations I had with my ex were boring and somehow always focused around her in some shape or fashion. Yeah screw that. The level of narcissism most women possess is unbelievable. That’s why they take so many freaking selfies and talk so much about their emotions over cb because they want people to care about them so bad. It makes me physically sick. I’m 22 and I know I have more life experiences to encounter but I don’t think it takes me dating dozens and dozens of women to come to a conclusion about their behavior when I can simply observe reoccurring phenomenon and make an educated judgement off of that. Great insight @exliventxs
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
First thing this made me think of was “the difference between men and women in one photo“.
Man looking at the world (and universe) with fascination.
Woman entirely self-interested and self-obssessed.Terrific observation.
You don’t even need to meet them personally… it’s everywhere:
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Doesn’t even know (or care!) if the world is round or flat – even though she has been through grade school and has seen a globe before. But all she cares about (in her own words!) is feeding her fat ass and her kids fat asses. A walrus thinks in exactly the same way. It blew my hair right back when I read Schopenhauer’s essay “on women” c.1865 where he deconstructs the female and points out her complete lack of objectivity and interests in anything but herself.
This is even embedded deep within their anti-male / anti-MGTOW “shaming tactics”….. where they might say something like “all MGTOW do is bitch about women”, to which one could reply:
MGTOW do not “bitch about women”. We are discussing what women actually ARE – and what they actually DO. “Women” is a little half of the world. And it’s manly thing to observe the world exactly as it is. When I look at the moon and observe it for exactly what it is, I might say “Gee, it’s a lifeless rock with no atmosphere”. That’s not called “bitching about the moon”.
Even within the shaming language itself, women admit that men look carefully at something OTHER THAN THEMSELVES and see it for what it really is. When women look at something, they only care about how it relates to HER PERSONALLY. Talk about (and notice) what they do in the aggregate, and what does a woman do? She talks about HERSELF as if MOST women don’t matter a damn.
“Well MY husband…. and MY wedding…. and MY ring…… and MY dress…. and MY marriage….. and MY relationship… and MY divorce…. and MY kids…. “.
She doesn’t even say “OUR wedding”…. or “the ring he gave me”.
You just can’t get anymore self-interested than a female. It’s remarkable.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.It’s even worse when you’re trying to argue a point with them. You can bring up all the statistics, facts, and logic in the world and she will come back with some completely irrelevant (and probably misremembered) anecdote from her own life and think that somehow trumps the reality behind your position. And they all do this. I’ve even seen women do it in things submitted for peer review, which is quite frankly so unprofessional it’s baffling.
Almost all the women I know do this, and so do a butt load of men.
Even trained scientists do this (M & F), and they should know better if anyone does. When presented with data that violate their preconceived outcomes, they double down on their preconceptions and argue in circles. In short, this is why I quit discussing politics with the campus communists.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
@ Exslivntxs: Oh shallowness, shallowness… … which is pitiful at best. Yep, been there done that met them myself, too.
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
I used to put up with that horses~~~ in order to attain a goal. I realized it was an empty victory and have learned from the error.
ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.
“Well MY husband…. and MY wedding…. and MY ring…… and MY dress…. and MY marriage….. and MY relationship… and MY divorce…. and MY kids…. “.
Incredible how women think that achievements of their extended family members are somehow their own. My ex wife couldn’t shut up about her sister and the brother in-law and his extended family in social settings like this is somehow her accomplishments. She hasn’t accomplished anything in life, so she thought she could get her social status by bragging about her family. Men kept shrugging off her comments in disbelief (why is she talking about this?), but women actually were genuinely interested in all of this success by association.
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
It isn’t just women who’re like that.
I endured this self-obsession while I worked for other people. At one company I worked for, the resident crap artist kept blathering on about his medical student wife and any success she had was automatically his, even though all he had was a B. Sc. What made it worse was that he was an actual crap artist who could try to convince anyone that black is white.
I also put up with that nonsense from my departmental colleagues while I was a post-secondary instructor. Inevitably, every conversation eventually gravitated to someone talking about themselves and their brats. Their brats were so good, so talented that the children of Lake Woebegone were morons. Since I never married and have no family of my own, I could talk only about myself or about, say, current events. Typically, if I ever said anything about me, people called me arrogant. If I talked about something in the news and, worse, took a stand about something, I was opinionated.
Yet, those same people wondered why I avoided staff social events…..
KM:
I watched about half of that video clip before switching it off. The scary thing is that the show has an enormous influence on people, even though what they say is empty blather. It’s like what Macbeth says in a soliloquy, “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”.
RoyDal:
Academics may often give the impression about being closed-minded. Often, they are defensive out of conviction, but also legitimate skepticism. Even if there may be data which contradict what they’ve come to accept, they should be properly examined in order to determine their legitimacy and if they were acquired properly. Many times, results are announced, only to be withdrawn because of measurement error or misinterpretation. In some cases, however, some findings appear to be so outlandish that researchers willingly publish the numbers and invite their colleagues to prove them wrong.
However, many academics have no convictions whatsoever and will investigate anything so long as someone else is paying for it. Academic research has become a matter of money nowadays and people will work on whatever gets funded. One consequence of that is a herd mentality and, often, good ideas are pushed aside because no one is willing to finance a researcher interested in them. (I largely paid for my Ph. D. work out of my own pocket, which irritated my supervisor as he couldn’t tell me what to do since I was the one signing the cheques.)
However, that herd mentality often leads to conformity to whatever is accepted as the status quo. New ideas are risky and may not be readily accepted, even though there is evidence supporting them. Worse yet, they might not receive funding.
Research is far from neutral, impartial, and objective.
I used to put up with that horses~~~ in order to attain a goal. I realized it was an empty victory and have learned from the error.
I had one step-sister that would always come around the holidays and everyone would just talk about their lives.
I noticed some, like myself, would include friends struggles, like the death of a loved one, that I would help with if I could… or maybe it was to help them move. Or joint projects we did together for certain classes.
Meanwhile, my step-sister, every other word was “I” and what she was doing and what she was about and blah blah blah.
I just couldn’t listen to her. Then I started listening to other women and found this was not an isolated incident. A large amount of women (and some men with low self-esteem) just can’t stop talking about themselves. My future, My goals, My BF, My house, My ideal wedding, My professor, My project, My … blah blah blah.
As soon as a woman starts talking like this, just run. If you marry her, and she has the chance to jump in front of a bullet for you, you’ll be coughing up blood.
They totally don’t get it. If I were them it wouldn’t be all about me. I would…
Oh, I get it now.
They totally don’t get it. If I were them it wouldn’t be all about me. I would… Oh, I get it now.
There’s nothing wrong with talking about yourself. Everyone does that, it becomes a problem when it is literally every other sentence.
Still this made me laugh. Well said.
When it’s done from a perspective of a) relating to the topic at hand, b) sharing your experiences in order for the other person to learn from your successes or mistakes, or c) something funny or just entertaining; then talking about yourself is entirely acceptable. But I’m speaking from a purely masculine point of view.
The “I” chick is just a logical progression from “Daddy’s Little Princess”. They’re raised to think that every facet of their being is both important and fascinating, not the boring, dull bulls~~~ that it actually is.
Want to turn these kinds of conversations into something more enjoyable for yourself? Try injecting 50 cc’s of sarcasm in there. For example:
“Blah blah blah me me me blah blah me me blah I like sushi.”
“You like sushi? That’s REALLY interesting, I’m suddenly seeing this classy and sophisticated adventurer in you now. I bet you order in japanese and everything.”
“You’re mean.”
“OH. MY GOD. You made it through an entire statement without talking about yourself! 24 more of those and I’ll sign off on your girl scout badge.”
…or for the crackhead girly s~~~ like “kbai muah!”
“Have a lovely evening. FAAAAAAARRT!”
Ultimately what this does (aside from your own entertainment, which is the main goal) is that it will teach her that she has to bring something of value to the table in her interactions with you. If she can’t hang, she won’t. That will just free up more of your time to work on your motorcycle or invent the next great human technological advance, or whatever you’re into. So for you, it’s a win-win.
This is an interesting thread.
In my opinion there are 2 working definitions of the “I” person and they represent opposite sides of the spectrum.
The quintessential “I” woman as the OP points out. The vast majority of women who always speak about themselves and always speak about what is in their own best interest. What is in her best interest is promoted by not only her, but family courts, elected officials, as well as the laws themselves….. and don’t forget the hordes of white knights. The “I” woman is venerated by almost everyone.
Then there is the quintessential “I” man the OP has not pointed out, the MGTOW. A MGTOW does what is best for himself as opposed to speaking about it to every person who will listen or putting the well-being of women before his own (as is expected of him). The “I” man is shamed and shown disgust by almost everyone for not putting the “I” woman’s interests before his.
Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.
One observation someone else made for me: The least intelligent conversations you will ever have will be about people. This is essentially gossip, and the people you will have these conversations with are likely to be the readers of magazines like ‘People’, ‘National Enquirer’ etc.
The more intelligent conversations you will have will be about events. This is the content of newspapers and people best positioned to have these conversations will be the readers of newspapers.
The most intelligent conversations you will have will be about ideas. The people you will have these conversations with will tend to be the most intelligent people, and will likely be the readers of things like ‘popular mechanics’, ‘Omni’ and other publications featuring mainly ideas.
A person who talks only about himself/herself is not necessarily unintelligent, unless it’s the only thing that CAN talk about. Then, they are not only limited to the least intelligent type of conversation (about people), they don’t even have any knowledge to relate about any other person beyond themselves. In my experience, if you persist in conversations with these people, they soon begin telling you the same stories over and over again… it’s all they have. And if by some chance they do allow the conversation to drift around to you, then be assured that in the next conversation they have, gossip about you is likely to be the subject once they are done speaking about themselves.
One of my biggest disappointments about women is that they will spend two hours in front of a mirror getting ready for a date, but will not spend 20 minutes reading a damn newspaper so that they have something to talk about on that date. They often succeed at presenting a beautiful face, but it’s just a beautiful doorway to an empty room…
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
BP:
That explains most of my dealings with other people, particularly women. Why would I want to go on a date with someone for whom Entertainment Tonight is her main source of information when I would rather discuss topics such as dark matter, the Higgs boson, the upcoming New Horizons close encounter with Pluto, or Wagner’s operas? Her data path would be only 8 bits wide while the width of mine would be at least 1 K.
Get this: some 30 years ago, I was part of a social group consisting mainly of young professionals. Most of them were single schoolteachers. I regularly read at least 3 newspapers daily back then; they were proud that they didn’t read even one. That is scary!
In their minds they are the center of their own universe and everything happens in relation to them. The universe is cruel when they don’t get their way and is benevolent when they get their way. It’s extremely childish and the annoyance factor is compounded by their inability to be consistently rational, if rational at all.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.They can never look up at the stars at night and realise how utterly insignificant they are. They will just say something like.. “Wow, so beautiful” as if they are checking out their best friends latest selfie.
Anonymous11You’ve described nearly every woman I know with the exception of one of my nieces and the older ladies in my family. Even my certified anti-feminist Sister is like that too.
2 hours on the phone of I,I,I, and Me, Me, Me. No mas!!!!!
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