The Fallen Brothers

[EekParticipant 1162]

I was reading Governor Megachris%’s thread here and something in it reminded me of one of the reasons I went MGTOW early on.
MegaChris’s Thread

Back when I was in high school and early college one of the things that really put me on the MGTOW path was the the EXTREME changes I would see in friends when they were hanging out with “the guys” vs when their female significant other was in our presence.

A couple particular examples stand out. One of the people I became friends with through mutual friends was generally a fun guy when we would hang around their appartment. He would tell jokes, get rather loud, talk s~~~, and generally be someone who was fun to be around. But on the occasions his girlfriend (eventually wife) would hang out with the rest of the group you might confuse him with someone who has a social anxiety disorder. He would hardly ever smile, he talked much more quietly, I can’t recall a time when she was in the presence of the larger group that I would say he looked like he was having fun. Though I remember catching him at times when something funny would happen, which he would normally respond to. You could see him fighting back showing amusement.

Another example was actually my younger brother. The exact same thing happened to him a few years later. We would frequently play games online, probably too much at times. He moved about 10 hours away to a small religious college. We would still play online until he met his future wife. When he got his infrequent alone time we would still talk and tell jokes like always. But if she was around I swear he had to fight to make it look like he was doing something he didn’t enjoy or she wouldn’t leave him alone. He would frequently just disconnect in the middle of playing various games, and I knew it was because she had walked in on him doing something he knew she wouldn’t approve of. When the opportunity arises my unmarried brothers and I mock him about hiding under his desk when his wife is around.

These examples are just a couple that came to mind, thinking back on things. And all this behavior was exhibited BEFORE they even got married. At the time the extreme behavior changes really put me off bothering with women at all. I wouldn’t want one to come along and give me s~~~ for all the things I enjoy doing that they wouldn’t approve of.

How many “fallen brothers” do you have in your life? Friends or family who have become someone you wouldn’t want to spend time with because of what has been done to them by their “true love”?

I can count a good half dozen without even really thinking too hard.

[Anonymous 24]

All except two are blue pill. I could not even begin to count them all. Most people are nothing more than vessels filled with what is around them, and will blindly defend their identity out of fear that who/what they are/believe in may be wrong/shallow/unexamined, there are very few true intellectuals in society. Ego is man’s worst enemy.

“An intellectual is a person who engages in critical study, thought, and reflection about the reality of society, and proposes solutions for the normative problems of that society.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual

[Anonymous 6]

One of my good friends I grew up with in school had fallen, right into his ladies ass crack, before he met her he was the sort of alpha type that had a f~~~ them and then forget them attitude. But then along down the road he became a complete pussy whipped mangina.

I Have not seen him in about 2 years and the last thing we talked about at that time was his “unicorn” wanting to have kids, yikes! I really hope he has gone his own way because we live in different towns and have not been in contact. She must be keeping him on a short leash or maybe worse, he has tied the knot.

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

As soon as you become serious with a women the emasculation begins. His identity is stripped away, leaving a husk of a man you once knew. For a time he can still be himself in male company. Eventually even this fades away.
I have seen this happen to every single one of my friends over the years. Every single one of them drifted away from me to only be left on the scrap heap when their wives divorced them, in some instances taking their homes and children. I was fortunate in a way that I witnessed all this 15 years ago when I was 35 and vowed to never let this happen to me. I was lucky in that they all married before me. It could’ve been me.
Women are like vampires. They will suck your life from you. Your life is not important or relevant to a creature that only wants servitude to satisfy their hunger for selfishness and narcissism.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Eek wrote:

How many “fallen brothers”

90% of married men can be considered fallen brothers.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Bestieboy666 wrote:

As soon as you become serious with a women the emasculation begins.

If only…

It begins way before that with socialization and brain-washing by the feminist gynocentric machine that we call society here in the USA.
It begins with mothers telling their sons that “girls are special.”
It begins with fathers unwilling to say, and mean “NO” to their wives.
It begins with schools administered, taught, and staffed almost entirely with females.
It begins with the entertainment industry advancing the feminist agenda.
It begins with attempting to appease women [i.e. allowing them to vote].

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[TuneoutParticipant]

I don’t know if I can consider this lucky but I’ve always hung with a rougher crowd,practicaly assholes most of them but I just couldn’t stand to be around the other type,it made me sick.

They were solid guys,not criminals,just didn’t take s~~~ from anyone including their women,not in a abusive way,just assertive ‘if you don’t like it ,leave’ type of thing.

You know what? The chicks LOVED it,so from a very early age I understood the women loving assholes routine.
In the Navy same thing,those run down port bars were full of good looking chicks just waiting to hook up with a hard drinking sailor in uniform knowing full well they’d probably never see him again.

Some didn’t even bother taking thier wedding rings off,I almost felt pity for the poor saps sitting at home and wondering if they believed thier wives BS reasons for going out.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Anonymous 54]

If you got a buddy you’ve got to remember it’s temporary cause when a woman comes along,he’ll be gone.He might come back,he might not.Its hard to watch there Manhood stripped away. Its just the unfortunate nature of it.I might be a little ruff around the edges, but I ain’t go in nowhere.Once I’m your buddy,I’m always your buddy. Got your back.

[HitmanParticipant]

i have to back up old sage.
be there for the fallen brothers when they get back up.
that’s when they will need a friend more than ever.
it will show that men have honor and that our way is the path of righteousness.
we all f~~~ up at times..
be there for the friend who f~~~ed up and you might save his life in the process.

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