The End of TRADCONs and The New Male Maturity

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

The central idea that I’m trying to communicate is that it might be possible that the expansion of MGTOW may bring about a new level of maturity in men on an increasingly larger scale. Why is this relevant? I think that the future social implications for women is less optimistic than predicted. Especially when they wake up to this reality and realize that another part of their power base with men is gone. I also believe that when men are by and large aware of this, we will experience a greater degree of cultural empowerment and intellectual independence.

For some of you this idea may not be new to you. If so, great, but let me work this out. I was raised in a family that was TRADCON, but only because it was rammed down my family’s throat by a bible thumping, southern Baptist. Because of this, I have an occasional epiphany. They are new discoveries for me.

Almost 20 years ago, I was in Alaska. It was the summer and me and a buddy of mine were going trout fishing. For those of us that have been to Alaska, you will understand that the mosquito is practically the state bird and protective netting is almost a requirement. We passed through a recreational area, and as I drove over a small bridge, I could see several vehicles parked along the road. Tourists and avid fishermen were fly fishing along the banks. As I passed over the bridge at a slow speed, I saw a man that was at least in his seventies. He was decked out in all brand new fishing clothes and a mosquito netting over his head. The man looked like he just walked out of a Banana Republic store, but the guys has worked all of his life, and he should enjoy. What struck me was his wife. As he was getting ready to head down to the river, his wife seemed to be complimenting him of his new clothing. Almost in the same way a mother would talk to a six year old son that is wearing his new cowboy outfit, complete with cap guns. I realize that I’m inferring a lot when passing at 25 mph, but I could almost feel the condescension as I passed by.

Laura Schlessinger once said “Women wield more power in man-woman relationships. Men are born of women, raised by women, and come to women for their bonding and mating.” She also said that “Boys are given unconditional love, appreciation, and acceptance” from their mothers, and that this is what they expect from their wives.

A lot of us, especially we middle-aged men can attest to more than a little truth in this. You younger guys, perhaps not so much. A lot of you are coming from however many generations of feminism, and single-parent households in which your mothers have left their indelible stamp.

This issue is that I have come to believe that this system of relationships and marriage has infantilized men emotionally, psychologically, and intellectually. I remember busting my ass for my mother, no questions asked, and always got a hug, a kiss, and a thank you. I did the same for my wife with far less in return.

I believe that TRADCONs keep men as little boys around their wives no matter how much men will assert that they are “The man of the house”. This is why women wield more power and control in a successful marriage, because they are central to the man’s emotional well-being.

How else are you going to get a man to kill himself supporting a family and be happy about it? How else are you going to have the cognitive dissonance in a TRADCON of being the “Man of the House”, yet spout “Happy wife, Happy life”?

As MGTOW, I believe that men will experience a greater degree of emotional independence and maturity than previous generations. What can women expect when they finally wake up to the idea that they are becoming less and less important to our emotional well-being?

Now, who’s the big boy?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 42]

You da big boy! Well said! If it weren’t for the many excoriating scars I have on my heart, I’d be weak as p~~~ to the modern woman! It’s the suckers that have been indoctrinated in old world woman, and apply these beliefs to modern woomturds is where all the deception lye.
Face it, thanks to feminism we’re as wise and mean as any junkyard dog.
Women are cats, men are dogs; cat scratches dog, dog eats cat. No more cat, no more scratches, dog sleeps in peace (MGTOW).

[RoyDalParticipant]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

The central idea that I’m trying to communicate is that it might be possible that the expansion of MGTOW may bring about a new level of maturity in men on an increasingly larger scale.

My take is that as men become more mature they are drawn to Going Their Own Way. Unfortunately, they have to make themselves more mature; we cannot do it for them, except by example.

“You’re lucky you’re not tied down, man!”

“It wasn’t luck. I’m going my own way.”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

RoyDal wrote:

My take is that as men become more mature they are drawn to Going Their Own Way. Unfortunately, they have to make themselves more mature; we cannot do it for them, except by example.

I really hate it when a men of equal or greater intelligence pokes a gaping hole in a theory of mine.

Jokes aside, setting the example is perhaps the single biggest linchpin to my discussion.

My original thinking was the the more refugees from multiple marriages and sons raised by their gynocentric mothers there are, then the more likely our example will be noted and followed. I should have put this proposition in with my original.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Enjoyed reading this. I am still working on my maturity, or perhaps better phrased, I am still repairing & rebuilding myself, as well as my endeavors in regards to growing & being better than I was the day before. It is far better to skip the repair phase, but as so many of us have been pummeled into the dust , the first step is mandatory. As for growing, I have my own bar & standard for myself, on what me being mature is.

It’s like that saying I have had repeatedly shoved down my throat, “What doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger”. I call it bulls~~~. I used to live by that creed in everything I did, or attempted to do. All the while thinking to myself, that I would eventually rise up & above it, to finally gain the maturity & strength to overcome.

Once I realized it was a lost cause & my fight was in vain, I checked out of the whole gynocentric napalm ambush & the TRADCON to me is based on a “myth’ of traditional “values”. I could never resolve myself to being put under another’s thumb, run into the ground, etc., of having value to myself…certainly not any values I felt honored to add to my repertoire on what it means to me, on being a man.

Soldier-Medic wrote:

This issue is that I have come to believe that this system of relationships and marriage has infantilized men emotionally, psychologically, and intellectually.

Agreed, I was in that vicious circle of thinking, while I held on to the premise of I have been a victim mentality. I find it far more liberating to look at myself as now being a free man, that is hopefully wiser for the wear, or at least less the fool, going my own way.

Anonymous wrote:

If it weren’t for the many excoriating scars I have on my heart, I’d be weak as p~~~ to the modern woman!

^^^ This! Is so true. I suppose it did make me stronger in that aspect, of having my ass dragged through hell, but it was only after I decided to wake up from the matrix, before I saw it that way.

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