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  • #30359
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    I read an article about the pros and cons of same-sex education. It was written by a woman, and it’s sources were written mainly by women as well. As expected it was highly gynocentric. One sentence was something like: Boys in middle school become angry because they feel inferior to girls who literally “out-think” them’….. It went on and on about they myth of how girls are better and that boys are immature & stupid when compared to their counterparts.

    Well, first of all, when I was in middle school I and all the other boys never felt inferior to girls. In fact, we thought of ourselves as better. We knew that girls did better because they studied far more than us, while we were busy having fun. Despite this fact the gender gap in scores wasn’t so much (more than 5% I think). Then we had to receive shaming and demoralization from our female teachers who saw us as problems. I think the entire education system is tailored to suit the needs of women and disempower/demotivate boys in an attempt to achieve and prove female superiority. IIRC there was even a book written about this. The constant eye rolling, the shaking head in pity etc….

     

    I want two things from you to clear the air, fellow MGTOW:

    1. Can you name the dozens ways in which the education system is poisonous for us as a whole in the Western world?

    2. Can you clear the air about this whole girls are mature and smarter thing?

     

    Plz help, the gynocentric world is going to convince me that I am inferior and make me feel bad even though they won’t directly say it. They’re very cunning. F~~~ them! Man has created language, music, science etc…. how dare they disrespect Man? It makes me mad.

    #30364
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    The schools are overpriced hybrids between henhouses and prisons, so it is no wonder man-hating c~~~s give men short shrift.  I say abolish them all and, to paraphrase Moses, let my little people go.

    #30371
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    I’m past the age of having children, and didn’t have them out of pure conscience.  If I like to think that I did one thing right in my life, it was to choose not to procreate with the abominations that we call women.  I well and truly did not want to bring a kid into this current mess.

    I think I’d probably have been more involved in education had I done so though.  I really think that there needs to be a huge focus on creating more private schools for boys and young men, where the funding isn’t tainted by feminism.  Let the split-tails tromp all over public education; that game is long lost and mangled beyond recognition.  A young man can not expect to receive anything approaching a real and decent education at public institutions.  There is simply too much dogma and propaganda and SJW bleeding.

    #30381
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    The use of “bleeding” to describe SJW prattling is amusing.

    We all know how females are when they’re on their monthlies and bleeding from that hole that makes most men go crazy.  SJWs are the same way but for the whole month!

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    I spent many years in the post-secondary educational system both as a student and as an instructor.  I started as a freshman in 1973 and finished my studies nearly 15 years ago, with several gaps in between because of work and, unfortunately, unemployment.

     

    I don’t recognize the system now.  It used to emphasize things like truth, knowledge, logic, and reason.  Now it’s all about nonsense like “outcomes” and “customer satisfaction”, as well as indoctrination into political correctness.  Nobody’s allowed to fail, lest it make the students–or the institution–look bad.  Discipline, patience, and perseverance are non-existent.  A popular (i. e., “good”) teacher give the kiddies what they want when and how they want it.  I could go on, but I think you get the picture.

     

    Over the years, I often thought it would have been nice to have been a father.  However, when I see what the educational system is like nowadays, I’m glad I didn’t because I wouldn’t want my children being subjected to all that.

     

    #30398
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    It is very simple.

    Women and men have completely different brains, although every article you run into will be like, “that doesn’t mean its better” or whatever; all just trying to avoid facing the reality.

    Your always running into women in complete denial of the 25% larger, and how brain size doesn’t equal intelligence, ie, whale, vs dinosaurs vs whatever; which is comparing difference species of which have different brain structures.

    Anywho, point is, women are ALWAYS trying to cover up this fact, because they know for a fact that they are not as smart as men, which is one of the reasons as to why they are always pushing for “equality,” ie, women are as smart as men. Think about it, how in the first place were women generally known to be so much dumber? All generalizations have some backing to them.

    So you now have the social evidence that there is indeed a huge f~~~ing difference.

    What is the last bit that you need to confirm your suspicions? The scientific evidence!

    White vs Grey matter in the brain!

    White matter is the connective tissues in the brain, connecting everything together.
    Grey matter is where all of the actual processing is done in the brain; the actual thinking.

    Men have 6.5x the amount of grey matter than women, and women have 10x the amount of white matter.

    Do the math; remember, humans are just biological computers.

    How good is a computer that has a pentium 4 processor and 128GB of ram?
    How good is a computer that has a core i5 processor and 12GB of ram?

    With that in mind, what is it that women are good at?
    TAKING IN LOTS OF INFORMATION WITHOUT PROCESSING IT!
    From my experience, for the most part, women have just enough processing power to take in information and just store it; or accept it. As they get older, they do seem to gain a slight amount of discipline and start focusing their thoughts towards something productive, vs trying to take in every bit of information.

    So, what happens when you take a bunch of people whom can pretty only learn through memorization and regurgitation?

    YOU GET A REALLY S~~~TY ASS EDUCATION SYSTEM!

    That also so happens to be so f~~~ing completely feminized!

    With that out of the way, i disagree with same-sex-schools for the very reason as to why they got rid of them in the first place.
    They should not be brought back; All that we really need is an education system designed by men, of which allows for the flexibility to accommodate the two learning styles. What we currently have for an education system is absolutely completely pathetic.

    My Goal: To Leave Society.

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    With that out of the way, i disagree with same-sex-schools for the very reason as to why they got rid of them in the first place.
    They should not be brought back; All that we really need is an education system designed by men, of which allows for the flexibility to accommodate the two learning styles. What we currently have for an education system is absolutely completely pathetic.

    I couldn’t agree more with your conceptualized theory, and I think your solution would be the best possible recourse, were it at all possible my friend.  Unless there were a theoretical military coup, and the subsequent reinstatement of men as the leaders of our long standing institutions, I think we will be waiting a very long time for pigs to fly in the case of “education system being designed by men” in a public capacity anyway.  The women in roles of responsibility have no intention of letting the male population even hold their ground, never mind being treated flexibly, and with respect.  The are interested only in the subjugation of men, and the advancement of women at this expense.  The hive mentality will ultimately bring upon the collapse of the Western world, where the lowest common denominator will advance as our leadership.  We are consistently picking or having forced upon us the Loser to represent us at the higher levels of society.

    It will only be a matter of time before the Totalitarian nations of the world only need the gentle placing of a straw which will break our camel’s back.

    Perhaps I’ve even used Totalitarian incorrectly, because that is most certainly what our educational, commercial and political organizations have become:  with a bunch of completely uncreative, unintelligent, insecure raging moronic feminists in key positions.

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    Willy:

     

    The educational system is completely broken and is beyond repair.  What feminism didn’t damage, corporatization did.  I mean, students as “customers”?  Who are they kidding?

     

    Why anybody would even consider teaching as an occupation nowadays totally escapes me.

     

    By the way, something else I figured out while I was a grad student:  if getting a Ph. D. had anything to do with talent, IQ, and hard work, many post-secondary institutions would have to close because they wouldn’t find enough qualified people.  It’s largely a game of politics and butt-kissing.  I refused to do that and the last 2 years were like a running brawl with my supervisor.  I won because I did eventually get my degree.

     

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    Cipher Highwind
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    With all respect, Dr. Vertical, I consider myself a customer if I am paying money for something.

    As for primary and secondary “schools”, I do not know of a customer that would consent to the equivalent of prison:

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    <“women have just enough processing power to take in information and just store it; or accept it. As they get older, they do seem to gain a slight amount of discipline and start focusing their thoughts towards something productive, vs trying to take in every bit of information.”
    True that, just look at how girls perform in courses where you just have to “stupidly” learn something by heart, versus how they perform in logic-based stuff. In school, I always noticed that girls just tend to learn everything they’re told by heart, but often without actually understanding it. Pretty much everytime someone questioned the teacher about the lesson, or tried to look a bit further into it, it was a guy…

    It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

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    This is exactly how i saw school when i was in highschool and it is the one thing that made me attempt to end my life several times.

    It was absolutely agonizing… first 2 grades of school, my teachers had no idea what to do with me, but sadly were 100 times better than any other female teacher that i had later on; so as a result, they pretty much let me do whatever i wanted, of which i self taught myself everything from grade 1 to 6 just by dicking around. To make things worse, on my 5th grade i entered a math competition because of my boredom and in a month learned all math up to the university level. Afterwards from grades 2 to 12, i sat around doing absolutely dick f~~~ing all in class… just imagine doing absolutely NOTHING for 10 WHOLE YEARS!!! Imagine being the perfect f~~~ing student, being ISOLATED, not talking to ANYONE for those entire 10 years, and then being bullied by your teachers on a physiological level.

    I remember my 5th grade of school, the teacher handed out the assignment; the assignment was completed when you had every question correct, and as she handed out she mentioned that there was a bonus question for extra marks of which did not need to be completed except for me. So as usual, i completed the assignment well before she even finished handing them out, except for the bonus question of which was, 1/3 = ?, she said i was wrong and that i had to try again. I was puzzled, how could i be wrong? i wrote that 1/3 was equal to 0.3 with a line over top ( aka 0.3… ), FOR HALF AN HOUR, i went BACK AND FORTH writing the answer in as many f~~~ing ways as i could. Finally, i was the last student to finish, and almost about to burst out in tears, i wrote down as the answer, “0.3”, and she accepted it as being correct, then before even finishing with me, she immediately proceeded to go on about how 1/3 was NOT ACTUALLY 0.3! BUT F~~~ING 0.3 with a line on top of it! AKA 0.3…

    So, on top of 10 years of absolute boredom, half of my teachers took it upon themselves to mentally torture me as to make themselves feel better, because my intelligence made them feel like dumbasses.

    My first few suicide attempts were to try and starve myself, but i just wouldn’t die after 3 days of no food.

    Afterwards i tried jumping off a bridge, but again i didn’t die.

    Later i tried several times to stab myself in the stomach as to my understanding it was the most guaranteed way of killing myself – the stair wells in the office buildings in down-town were always locked so i could never get an opportunity to jump off a high enough building.

    It takes some real b~~~~ to stab yourself in the stomach, and then even then you can live for a few more days before dying… It seemed worth it at some times, and then every time at the last moments was the fact that i was atheist ( no after life, so survival instincts kicked in ) and the hopes that life would get better… combined with 3 days of agonizing pain, that usually got me not to do it lol 😛

    Then i said; if i’m going to kill myself, i’m going to take as many people as i can with me… and about that time i got my first girlfriend… and then she cheated on me, but it was enough to distract myself and get myself fantasizing about the future full of freedom.

    Even though i’m technically living well below the poverty line, life is still 10,000 times better than what it was in elementary/high school and i’m enjoying it 😛

    Hopefully i kept it short enough 😛

    Point is schools are absolutely F~~~ING HORRIBLE! And for some unlucky few, possibly worse than being in jail getting raped by some black f~~s with aids.

    Damn im in a long ass post mode today :S

    My Goal: To Leave Society.

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    Gotta agree on that, HotNoob, most teachers (and people in general) tend to be scared by kids (or even other adults) who are (a lot) smarter than them. Personally, I prefer being with people who are smarter, or at least on the same level as I am, because you simply learn next to nothing being around dumb people. I’m a total dumbass when it comes to science and math, but I remember acing pretty much all my tests in language courses in secondary school. Heck, during an oral exam for the English course, the teacher was already nearly an hour late on the schedule, and when I entered the classroom he told me “I’m already really late and tons of other students still need to present their exam, so I’ll just save us some time and give you 18/20 cause I know that’s the result you’re gonna get anyway”. I walked out of school laughing my ass off that day!

    It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

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    @ QWV.  Eloquently put Dr.  As I’ve mentioned before, I find your calling to be among the most honourable, and it saddens me to see how it has been so derogatorily diminished in following the route of political correctness.  I am sorry that so much of your life pursuit has in essence been cast away and replaced with the absurdity that is now public education.

    @  Cipher:  I get what you are saying re: paying makes you a customer, but a customer for what?  While paying for something does in essence make one a customer, in the case of education, it doesn’t automatically grant one the privilege of being qualified to become a professional in any given field.  One is paying for the opportunity to learn and subsequently be tested and reviewed by current professionals and future peers.  One isn’t entitled to a Degree; you’re buying the opportunity to be tested and prove that you have the chops to utilize your inherent capabilities.  Otherwise, there would be no point in the entire process.  Anyone who pays for, and attends classes and lectures is not automatically educated and wizened in any given field.

    @Hotknoob.  I don’t know how much of your post is current, and how much is past, but I find a great deal of your second post to be disturbing.  Apart from the educational issue at hand in the post of yours which I quoted, many of the issues in your second post might require that you seek some help in the right places.  Harming yourself or others are not viable solutions to any given topic and thoughts like these show that much is amiss in your life, apart from being an MGTOW and from having received or experienced an incorrectly weighted education.

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    I am paying to sit for tests, the professor’s instruction and time, and for the university’s support services e.g. financial aid, registration, &c.

    The second part is often contentious since many universities’ engineering departments are allergic to hiring Anglophone professors, or in one case, said professor cannot be bothered to explain things via e-mail in an online class.

    I get what you are saying re: paying makes you a customer, but a customer for what?

    #30490
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    I am paying to sit for tests, the professor’s instruction and time, and for the university’s support services e.g. financial aid, registration, &c. The second part is often contentious since many universities’ engineering departments are allergic to hiring Anglophone professors, or in one case, said professor cannot be bothered to explain things via e-mail in an online class.

    I get what you are saying re: paying makes you a customer, but a customer for what?

    I understand more now what you were saying.  Thanks for clarifying, and the things which you’ve listed should certainly be accounted for in your purchase.  I think I misread you a little.  Re: The Anglophone professors;  THAT is a highly irritating thing on any level, and I feel for you there.

    Dealing with a language barrier in any instance can drive a guy mad, and not receiving responses to your queries would be frustrating as hell.  I really don’t know about these fully-online classes, as they didn’t exist when I went to school.  I think they would take frustration to a whole new level, and in being a professor too.  I can’t imagine how inundating Email must be in such a situation.

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    @Hotknoob. I don’t know how much of your post is current, and how much is past, but I find a great deal of your second post to be disturbing. Apart from the educational issue at hand in the post of yours which I quoted, many of the issues in your second post might require that you seek some help in the right places. Harming yourself or others are not viable solutions to any given topic and thoughts like these show that much is amiss in your life, apart from being an MGTOW and from having received or experienced an incorrectly weighted education.

    No worries, i’ve been out of school for nearly 5 years and loving every bit of it lol. Point was to show how f~~~ed up the education system is.

    Besides the point, i went through 7 shrinks in highschool, and 1 in elementary school.
    I convinced every single one of them to my point of view, and every time i’d do so, my parents ( more specifically my mother ) would move me onto a new shrink, because god forbid that there be something wrong with society! Remember, shrinks have to go through 8 years of brain washing post secondary schooling to beable to be a physiologist in the first place, so they are EXTREMELY STUBBORN! You also won’t believe how many of them said that entertainment was a luxury and not a need. 10 years of doing absolutely nothing but sitting at a desk, who wouldn’t kill themselves if they were forced to endure that? Imagine being in solitary confinement in a prison for the majority of your childhood. Not one shrink helped btw, they only made things worse; for most of my high school life, because of them, i was only allowed to use a computer for 2 hours a day, and only for home work. Now, i’m a self/un employeed IT Professional… The IRONY!

    Anywho, trust me when i say, all shrinks are complete jokes.
    >i went to school for 21 years living in an extremely sheltered world, so i can tell people how to live their life.
    Just think about it; how on earth does that make any sense? lol.

    My Goal: To Leave Society.

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    Cipher Highwind:

     

    One pays one’s fees for access to what the educational institution has to offer and for its operation.  Paying one’s fees does not, however, entitle one to any desired result or outcome nor did it ever make that person my customer.  A student has to earn his or her rewards and simply paying a certain amount of money does not purchase that.

     

    I’ve had students who thought that, by paying their tuition, they were automatically guaranteed a certain grade because they deserved it.  The reality is that getting an education is more like a lottery.  One pays to participate.  The rest is a matter of luck, circumstance, and personal ability and effort.

     

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    A white night appears to fight for the honour of tenured mandarins…oh joy…

    Cipher Highwind:

    One pays one’s fees for access to what the educational institution has to offer and for its operation. Paying one’s fees does not, however, entitle one to any desired result or outcome nor did it ever make that person my customer. A student has to earn his or her rewards and simply paying a certain amount of money does not purchase that.

    I’ve had students who thought that, by paying their tuition, they were automatically guaranteed a certain grade because they deserved it. The reality is that getting an education is more like a lottery. One pays to participate. The rest is a matter of luck, circumstance, and personal ability and effort.

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    With all respect, Dr. Vertical, I consider myself a customer if I am paying money for something. As for primary and secondary “schools”, I do not know of a customer that would consent to the equivalent of prison:

    That was also what high school was like, teachers and VP’s were guards – the VP’s would often police the school and parking lots during class looking for class skippers, even going after people at the nearby Dairy Queen. Teachers would come after you if you tried to leave class/study hall even one minute early. The principal (big tall guy) was the warden, he was ontop of everything.

    The students were the inmates, in which were there were many types, there were psychopaths, the occasional MGTOW dude, bubba( freaky goth/punk girl who chased me in summer school – she never caught me), homos, people who thought they owned the place, white supremacists, age supremacists, thieves, con artists, petty criminals, drug dealers, perverts, useful idiots, pathological liars, deviants, gang members, twits.

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    Cipher Highwind:

     

    I’m hardly a white knight and I want to see the tenure system abolished.  Nobody in academe is that important that they deserve a job for life.  I’ve seen too many academics go to seed once they got unlimited access to the hog trough.  The rest of us, meanwhile, take our chances.

     

    I was, however, stating facts in my earlier comment.  Paying one’s fee does not entitle that person to an “A”.  That grade has to be earned and, in order to obtain it from the educational institution in question, one has to pay for the privilege of being there.

     

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