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Hello.
I found this site by accident, looked around for a while, liked what I saw, and decided to introduce myself.
I live in the US, early 50s, never married, no kids. I guess I was a MGHOW long before I ever heard of the concept. The idea of getting into an exclusive relationship/marriage never made sense to me. I watched my friends and neighbors deal with emotional/physical abuse, irrational behavior, drama, nagging, and s~~~ tests (I could spot some of them even back then; I didn’t learn the actual term until much later), and decided that I just wasn’t gonna go there. Preening and competing with all of the other peac~~~s just for the privilege of living up to someone else’s expectations never seemed to be worth it to me.
My friends were puzzled by my behavior. Some asked if I felt that I had a void in my life. I thought that was an interesting question. If I did perceive such a void, then wouldn’t it be up to me to fill it? Expecting a woman to fill that void, and projecting my own expectations onto her in the process, didn’t seem fair to her, either. Now, some of those friends are where I am — single — but, unlike me, they’re dealing with attorneys, alimony, custody battles, and lots of bitter feelings — and a few are chasing women just to do it all over again.
My parents were concerned, too (I think they may have had “grand-baby rabies”), and sat me down for a chat. I told them that, although I was sexually attracted to women, I had no desire to get into an exclusive relationship. Although they didn’t like my decision, they eventually came to accept it.
People ask me if I’m lonely or if I feel that I’ve missed out. Yes, I do get lonely sometimes, as does everyone else, relationship or no. As for the second part, life is a series of trade-offs. Yes, I missed out on a wife and kids, but I’m also fully autonomous, don’t owe anyone a cent, and have money in the bank. I think I’ll take that trade.
That’s all I have for now. Thanks for reading.
"The wisest follow their own direction." -- Euripides
what’s up doc ? welcome !
Anonymous18Welcome Dr
I love hearing from men of what would likely (99%) be my future- single & free. For the 1% hmmm …. ya know for the lonely days š
Welcome! I am glad you made it, and doubly glad you avoided the marriage and baby trap. Congratulations on both scores!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Anonymous0Hi Dr. Phibes, welcome.
never married, no kids.
Same here, they didn’t catch us…hehe
Btw. like the Vincent Price movies…Theater of Blood and Dr.Phibes ( The Abominable and the rise) are my favorites.
Welcome to sanity’s last outpost.
We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda
Welcome, glad to see more people step in.
Welcome Dr Phibes!
People ask me if Iām lonely or if I feel that Iāve missed out. Yes, I do get lonely sometimes, as does everyone else, relationship or no.
That is very true. All people experience loneliness and have voids they feel they need to fill. There are many of us here who are trying to warn younger men of the perils of marriage and LTRs from our own negative experience. Seasoned MGTOWs that were never married are always welcome to share what life can be like if people heed our warnings and GTOW early in life.
Yes, you will get lonely, but you are free to explore the world and not stuck in a suburban prison. Yes you will feel a void of not having kids, but you will not feel the loss of having your kids taken away and turned against you, which is worst.The answer is NO. āI could but I wonātā. Memini murum!
Anonymous42Yes, I missed out on a wife and kids,
Good morning Doc Phibes, “We”, you and I both, did not miss out on anything! No matter the man and his successes, today’s woman can ruin him on all levels! Look at the torture of having your kids held hostage all because she decided she doesn’t like you anymore, that another man is more worthy of wearing your shoes! The mindf~~~ery of the modern woman combined with their advantage over the injustice system is a toxic brew that ruins men by the millions! YOU LOST NOTHING! Modern woman looses everything! She gets what she deserves, NOTHING! I salute you for your logic and understanding of the world around you!
Personally, even if it were a law that forced me sign a marriage contract, I’d break the pen and stab myself in the neck! REPEATEDLY!Thank you for the inspiration, and welcome !
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Greetings and welcome, Dr.
Nice to see another member going his own way, and early on. Congrats and respect.
Cheers!Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Welcome from Stealthy Mgtow.
Q. So how were the nurses through the years⦠many hit on you?
At a party in college a gal told me she was getting into into nursing to land a doc. or a hubby.. (Trap him.)Thanks. I’ve been enjoying your posts.
Sorry — I should have included a disclaimer in my Intro. I’m not an actual doctor, but I am a classic horror movie buff. For my money, Vincent Price is the best there was.
Speaking of traps, here’s one I managed to avoid. When I was in my twenties, I dated a woman from work for a while (rookie mistake, I know). Early on, she told me that she’d marry me if I earned a certain amount of money per year. This is odd, I thought. We’d only been out a few times, and already she’s talking about getting married. She doesn’t even know me. I could have some serious issues, for all she knew.
Then, the light bulb went on. It’s not ME, it’s the MONEY. And if I did have issues, even better, because then she could justify a divorce. I backed off, and the next guy she took up with knocked her up. Bullet dodged.
"The wisest follow their own direction." -- Euripides
Hi Dr. Phibes, welcome.
never married, no kids.
Same here, they didnāt catch usā¦hehe
Btw. like the Vincent Price moviesā¦Theater of Blood and Dr.Phibes ( The Abominable and the rise) are my favorites.Thanks. Those are my favorite Vincent Price movies, too.
"The wisest follow their own direction." -- Euripides
Yes, I missed out on a wife and kids,
Good morning Doc Phibes, āWeā, you and I both, did not miss out on anything! No matter the man and his successes, todayās woman can ruin him on all levels! Look at the torture of having your kids held hostage all because she decided she doesnāt like you anymore, that another man is more worthy of wearing your shoes! The mindf~~~ery of the modern woman combined with their advantage over the injustice system is a toxic brew that ruins men by the millions! YOU LOST NOTHING! Modern woman looses everything! She gets what she deserves, NOTHING! I salute you for your logic and understanding of the world around you!Personally, even if it were a law that forced me sign a marriage contract, Iād break the pen and stab myself in the neck! REPEATEDLY!
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I never felt that the attraction was worth the price of admission, and, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve grown to realize how skewed the costs-vs.-benefits analysis really is.
I mean, if a buddy proposed that we go into business together, and, if it failed, I would have to give him half of my assets and a chunk of my income for the rest of my life, I would first laugh uncontrollably, and then I would tell him to lie down with his feet elevated so that the blood could return to his brain.
"The wisest follow their own direction." -- Euripides
Welcome Dr Phibes!
People ask me if Iām lonely or if I feel that Iāve missed out. Yes, I do get lonely sometimes, as does everyone else, relationship or no.
That is very true. All people experience loneliness and have voids they feel they need to fill. There are many of us here who are trying to warn younger men of the perils of marriage and LTRs from our own negative experience. Seasoned MGTOWs that were never married are always welcome to share what life can be like if people heed our warnings and GTOW early in life.Yes, you will get lonely, but you are free to explore the world and not stuck in a suburban prison. Yes you will feel a void of not having kids, but you will not feel the loss of having your kids taken away and turned against you, which is worst.
Thanks for your reply. I’m glad that my experiences (or lake thereof) can benefit younger guys just starting to struggle with this stuff. And, I know of several good men who, for whatever reason, are not allowed to see their children any more, and they are devastated.
"The wisest follow their own direction." -- Euripides
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