The divorce process sometimes kills the desire to strive.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I find the divorce process is killing my desire to strive. Support payment judgements based on income are like hanging an anvil over a guy’s head. The more money you make, the stronger you make ‘the feminist’ in her by giving her easy access to cash (and they say they don’t need men, sure). I can’t stand the idea that the more I were to make, the more the ex were likely to receive in support of her delusional life habits. I mean if you love your job then I understand the NFG approach to paying support while you try to dig yourself out of financial ruin and scramble up a hill to manly independence. But what if you get up every morning dreading having to deal with a crap job full of stress and maybe even throw in a man-hater for a boss for good measure. I mean it just kills the drive. What are your thoughts on this guys?

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Rafe GBParticipant 474]

When I was caught in the middle of an exit affair of my “ex” with my “friend” (who made more money of course) it was more than I could bear.

9 years later it’s all over with… I’m poor as hell, but I’m free as hell where it counts: In my very soul.

Time really does heal, but it’s slow. There is no dollar amount that can purchase the fact that I’m finally “free” inside.

Now, my daughter and son are all about me… “Daddy”. Things have worked out, in time.

I know my story isn’t exactly stellar, but I noticed you hadn’t gotten any replies yet so here’s your first 🙂

MGTOW: The silent heralds of cataclysmic societal change. AGAIN!

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Also, if you are still married to a lazy useless resident old lady, there is little desire/motivation to attempt to move up the ladder. Again, knowing that divorce is just a matter of time, the idea of sacrificing more of your time, energy, focus, and drive to excel in your career and be rewarded with the thought of alimony in the end is definitely a career motivation killer.

On the plus side, by not focusing on a women or a career, this allows a man to focus on HIMSELF and what HE WANTS. Maybe, added exercise, decent diet, and a lower stress/lower hours job will pay off in the end as compared to working 60 + hours a week in a job that is killing you only to be rewarded with an ungrateful useless wife and an early death.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 3]

Taxes also kill my desire to strive.

I used to work 65-80 work weeks when I was younger, and all it did was kill my health and most of it got stolen in taxes. So nowadays I barely work over 40 if I work at all, and mostly look for capital gains which are taxed at a lower, capped rate.

If you’re physically working yourself into an early grave you’re doing it wrong. Most of us have to start out that way, true, but once you see the pitfalls in the system and how it works you should try and get yourself into a position where you’re not reliant on an employer’s income.

[From The AshesParticipant 149]

Scary thing is, they say that behind every successful man is a woman. Just imagine what that guy would have done without a leech hanging off his shoulder?

I speak from experience, I have a day job with a fixed salary, but I did have a successful hobby/business a few years back that grossed as much as my day job salary.

With the sword of democales hanging over my head, I’ve completely tanked that business for now and didn’t earn a dollar off it last year. That’s what really happens when you don’t want to have to worry about an imputed income being the basis of any support payments.

For now, it is truly cheaper to keep her. That, and I can’t stand the thought of being a part time parent.

[experiencedParticipant]

It sucks, it really really sucks. But as better men have said, it does slowly get better. I can remember a time thinking “BULLS~~~!” but now that time has gone by, I see that it does get better, as will your impulse desire to keep bitches at bay.

“The Divorce process sometimes kills the desire to strive”
If you allow it to.

Unless you’re a female, they strive to find another host for their parasitic hairbag hosebag selves.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Here’s my first thought on this. While you are going through your divorce, don’t do anything that counts as striving at your current job. But maybe you can put your drive to a side hustle that you can start doing when the divorce is final. Maybe a gig where you can teach within your profession, or a completely different side hustle. Spend your time getting ready to launch, and then do it when the divorce is final. And never breath a word of it to her.

The other way to handle it is to hit the gym. Strive at something other than making money. Just refocus that desire to strive to something other than work until the money divide is over.

If you want to know the logic behind your desire being killed, think of it this way: Imagine if you worked out for 60 minutes, but you only got 30 minutes of benefit while the other 30 went to her while she was sitting on the couch. Kinda screwed up right? Pretty logical if you ask me.

Order the good wine

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

I basically went financial ghost a year before the separation. Worked for me, you should have seen her face when her lawyers got my income statements. Put me in the power position, made it worthless for her to fight for custody. Plus you gain a year of life before you have to do the buckle down after the big D.

Let the good times roll

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

Imagine if you worked out for 60 minutes, but you only got 30 minutes of benefit while the other 30 went to her while she was sitting on the couch.

Hang on, government gets 20 mins, you get 20 and she gets 20.

Let the good times roll

[ChangedParticipant 588]

I do understand you guys. But even for those of us who were never married and not in a divorce,

Taxes also kill my desire to strive.

Because the more we make the more we get taxed. That is why libertarian say that government intervention kills innovation.

Sometimes the problems go away when you dont give a f~~~ about them. And if you wait long enough you will find the best answer. Sometimes you resolve both problems at once. This is the best time to keep quiet and to think about alternatives.

Matriarchy taxes us. Patriarchy taxes us. No Fucks Given! If they give us pains, lets give them pains. Daily.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Point Of No Return wrote:

But what if you get up every morning dreading having to deal with a crap job full of stress and maybe even throw in a man-hater for a boss for good measure.

Those must be the benefits of marriage that Brad Wilcucks asshole keeps talking about.

Point Of No Return wrote:

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Never having gone through that s~~~, I’m not exactly entitled to comment on it, but I am goddamn thankful that s~~~ didn’t happen to me.

Don’t get married. Don’t have children.

[experiencedParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

Here’s my first thought on this. While you are going through your divorce, don’t do anything that counts as striving at your current job. But maybe you can put your drive to a side hustle that you can start doing when the divorce is final. Maybe a gig where you can teach within your profession, or a completely different side hustle. Spend your time getting ready to launch, and then do it when the divorce is final. And never breath a word of it to her.

The other way to handle it is to hit the gym. Strive at something other than making money. Just refocus that desire to strive to something other than work until the money divide is over.

If you want to know the logic behind your desire being killed, think of it this way: Imagine if you worked out for 60 minutes, but you only got 30 minutes of benefit while the other 30 went to her while she was sitting on the couch. Kinda screwed up right? Pretty logical if you ask me.

Here’s one thing that I guarantee will help you:
“The best defense is a great offense.”(Lombardi – and no I didn’t play football)
So spit in her face, no just kidding, by offense,
I mean that you can’t win “the game you are currently locked into” by only defending yourself.

Right now take out a sheet of paper and write down every reason why you would divorce her! Keep it handy as you think of other reasons to add. Keep it a secret.
Examples:
She would clean a few rooms every year or so, and expect High praise and admiration that day – sarcasm – because it was such a rare event!
You however, would bust your effing ass day in and day out, but all those efforts were never acknowledged, except in the form, with all respect, “We are blessed!” Ergo, she puts forth effort = mandatory praise to her this instant vs.
you put forth effort = it came from heaven.
She put on 50 pounds. She chose the refrigerator over you. She does not judge you worthy of staying in shape for, now that she has the upper hand.
BUT now that she’s going to eff around on you, now that she has other plans that don’t include you = it’s a miracle, she can lose the weight!
You said nothing while she turned into a hungry hungry hippo, but now that she’s losing weight, she wants extreme focus on this. Sure, you’re banging the eff out of her, but YOU KNOW this is not her end game.
She criticizes everything you say, even when she’s proven wrong: “There’s no such word as: “______” and you prove there is, there’s no such movement as “______” and you prove there is. Now (sarcasm) it’s your fault because you didn’t handle this BS via PUA rules and regulations = she acts …. like a c~~~, and it’s Your fault!”
For clarity, you analyze everything she says with the same degree of electron microscope examination and find flaw after flaw after flaw after flaw in what she is saying. Being the better person, you do not stoop to her level of “being a bitch.”
She gathers cackling fat friends who tell her that THEY have sex with their husbands every hour etc. Well, they must force Viagra down those guy’s throats and then blindfold and pinch the noses shut on all of them.
She gets tested, not at the hospital, but at the far end of town slut center, for gonorrhea, syphilis, Chlamydia, herpes. Such Thoroughness, Such Slut.
She made vows and blows them off(sarcasm: she would never do this again. PUA ism: it’s somehow MY fault.

Keep adding to the list of,
“Why I should divorce her”
It’ll do you good.
And quit second guessing yourself, go for the jugular in this particular exercise.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

It is true.

I sat at my pool one night during the divorce, drinking beer, contemplating fishing a preying mantis out so it wouldn’t drown. Thinking about how I never owned the pool, or the house, and nothing was really mine unless I could pack it up in a moment’s notice and take it with me if I had to leave.

I also thought of how no one would save me, no one would even try or care, so why should I save the Preying Mantis?

Then I got up and fished it out of the pool and set it in some landscaping that we paid $15,000 for and meticulously maintained, and that all would be dead in a matter of months when the bank took everything and the water was shut off…

I have no desire to strive again. I just want to be able to take care of me and my dogs. They went with me from a 4,700 Sq. ft. house, to a 22 foot camper with a solar panel on the roof, parked in the desert or in parks, and I was happier than when married.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Lol, that f~~~ing praying mantis changed your life.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

The strive for “things” is what kills most men as they get these things to get the women who then in turn just take the things away from men and leave them dirt poor. Personally I did away with most of my things, sold the house the 2nd car and all the crap I did not need and now living lean in a small place I rent and enjoying the buckets load of cash I save. It terms of your c~~~ wife I would stop paying her and ghost to non extradition country with a nice white sands beach. Depending on your skills and language abilities you could make a great life with yourself, easier said than done I know but it’s a goal worth while attaining.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Any money I make over and above what I make now will just go to either one or any combination of these entities:
The C~~~
The Bank
The State
So, I just feel like saying “screw it”. There’s no use in striving, I’ll just ride it out in poverty and in a few years when I’ve been forgotten about because I’m not worth a dollar, then I’ll see what’s doing. Don’t you just love how the system makes sense? How it promotes the entrepreneurial spirit?

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[experiencedParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Any money I make over and above what I make now will just go to either one or any combination of these entities:
The C~~~
The Bank
The State
So, I just feel like saying “screw it”. There’s no use in striving, I’ll just ride it out in poverty and in a few years when I’ve been forgotten about because I’m not worth a dollar, then I’ll see what’s doing. Don’t you just love how the system makes sense? How it promotes the entrepreneurial spirit?

Stash physical gold while you can!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

This is very true.

When going through divorce, most men (myself included) go through a “victim” phase, “why is this happening to me?”

We can not stay in this place. A victim often stays in the same place. They often stop trying.
A “victim” often fails in life and rarely succeeds.

What is needed is a mental reset. Bad things happen to all of us. It’s how we react to bad things. You can be a winner. You can grab the world by the b~~~~. You can succeed beyond your wildest dreams. I say f**k the bitch and the broom she came in on. Go out and win.

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