The Decline of Civilization

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

The Decline of

Western

Civilzation

I know this is in part a political topic, but its something that involved MGTOW ideals and Id like to know everyones thoughts on this

who is causing this and why in your opinion?

Ive been posting political threads lately, and I know almost all of us believe society is headed the wrong way down a one way street, but Im interested in hearing opinions on who is behind this and why.

I have my own ideas, and its not necessarily that all powers that be are consiously doing this; but some of the s~~~ going on is beyond the pale.

Why do the politicians in Europe for example seem to want their own countries demise? I posted the video below in the politics section. “With Open Gates” a brief documenterary on the migration problem. Its numbingly painful to watch. The uploader mentions in his comment section that Feminism is to blame for this. Very telling.

Between this and what we are witnnessing on college campuses via Yale, Mizzou, and other fronts, I want to know peoples thoughts as to why governmental bodies are pushing such self demising agendas. This is such a heated viral topic right now, and people are all over the map blaming the usual scape goats of jews, bankers, etc.

I want to know if you guys think these policies are the self deluted swinery of the left trying to create a utopia; orchestrated movements behind the scenes for nefarious purposes; or a combination of the latter using the former as useful idiots in their end game…

Below is a video that really captures the lunacy on the global front right now.

Resident cynic.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I like the sociobioligical explanation. It seems to fit best. There certainly is no rational logic behind voluntary self-destruction.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Remove Kebab

I wish they had the full version of that “finest kebab” song still around. Was hilarious.

[Anonymous 3]

It has to do with female nature and materialism. I’ll do a better writeup later today when I have some time. It’s already late and I should have been asleep a couple of hours ago, plus I don’t know that anybody would care what my take is.

[Anonymous 42]

Feminism has “EMPOWERED” women with the ALMIGHTY SWORD OF LAW, so they can now castrate and belittle men by the millions into legal exile, and permanent alienation! They have invited all manner of mental illness and moral disease into homes they endlessly destroy.

They “NOW” have “LEGAL POWERS” to force the man under “HER FOOT” of law bending gynocentric deep rooted and long established FOUL AND CORRUPT SYSTEM!

Feminism has risen to the top! She was proudly hoisted above the crows nest, all the men (except us) lifted her like the banner of a flagship to the pinnacle! MGTOW have the unshakable knowledge that lifting feminism is kin to lifting a “CEMENT TRUCK”,

Well shiver me rotten timbers mate! SHE was never intended for that use! Now the waves of change are crashing over the deck and this society is capsizing! AND THEY WONT CUT DOWN THE TRUCK! I’ve got me hands on the railing, and readying meself for life on the keel! This ship’s gonna flip so fast, I may be thrown over and off the keel! And if that happens??? I’m gonna beat the living s~~~ out of anybody looking board me wreckage! I won’t be asking ya ta f~~~ off and die, I’ll be pointing ya in the direction!
So you feminist ship flipping c~~~s can consider yourselves FOREWARNED! CHIVALRY IS DEAD….

[tripvanParticipant 193]

The Evolution of Civilisations and Tragedy and Hope by Carrol Quigley both expound on his idea on civilizations throughout history (taken from the wiki page):

Civilisations tend to evolve through a sequence of phases as follows:

Mixture
Gestation
Expansion
Conflict
Universal Empire
Decay
Invasion

Western civilisation has reached an age of conflict several times, and each time reformed itself and entered a new age of expansion. From the decay of Classical civilisation, Western society grew out of a mixture of cultures: Roman, barbarian, Saracen, and above all, Judeo-Christian.[4]

In my opinion based on what I have learnt from Quigley, we need to enter another conflict to move into a new age of Expansion. Trouble is the new ottoman empire/isis/caliphate/global islam is currently in a state of Expansion and employing subversive invasion into these large pockets of western civ which are teetering on the stage of Decay. Compare the birth rates.

The people for refugee integration believe expanding the core of our civilization will help strengthen us into a new age of expansion. This could hold to be true in the long run, if we weren’t out-flooding the original culture with subversive and invasive cultural elements.

Cultural elements diffuse outward from a civilization’s core to its periphery. Physical aspects of culture (e.g. tools and technologies) diffuse quicker than nonphysical aspects (e.g. beliefs, arts). The periphery is thus more materialistic than the core. An example is the United States, on the periphery of Western civilization.

As material elements diffuse to the periphery, the periphery gets stronger, while growth in the core of the civilization gets hampered by the growth of vested interests and a shift in interest to nonmaterial things. Thus cars and radios were European inventions, but were much more widely developed and used in America, where the culture more readily adapted to them.

Material elements also diffuse more quickly from one civilization to another. Thus civilizations tend to have technologies in common, and it is mostly nonmaterial things that distinguish civilizations.

This is another important element when considering how this invasive cultural force has become so dominant. They have taken western technology, without the cultural lineage that has developed in western civ, and are further strengthened by their religious bent on world domination/rape/pillaging/jihad.

Keep in mind that the one thing those in control of the flow of refugees want us to think is that these are our global brothers. They want to re-invigorate western civilization by bringing us back to the first step – Mixture – perhaps with a hope that western civilization’s cultural elements will be retained after this process. That is how they have sold it to the west. The most tried and true path from Decay historically has been to collapse or Invasion. Whichever universal empires exist today would be able to re-trigger expansion by entering into Conflict. This would in turn reinvigorate the large peripheral areas which are currently in Decay. Forfeiting to Invasion will not help this process, but losing peripheral areas to Invasion has in the past acted as a trigger, helping the west acknowledge the need for Conflict (Such as the Crusades). Just my two cents.

[RennieParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Feminism has “EMPOWERED” women with the ALMIGHTY SWORD OF LAW, so they can now castrate and belittle men by the millions into legal exile, and permanent alienation! They have invited all manner of mental illness and moral disease into homes they endlessly destroy.

They “NOW” have “LEGAL POWERS” to force the man under “HER FOOT” of law bending gynocentric deep rooted and long established FOUL AND CORRUPT SYSTEM!

Feminism has risen to the top! She was proudly hoisted above the crows nest, all the men (except us) lifted her like the banner of a flagship to the pinnacle! MGTOW have the unshakable knowledge that lifting feminism is kin to lifting a “CEMENT TRUCK”,

Well shiver me rotten timbers mate! SHE was never intended for that use! Now the waves of change are crashing over the deck and this society is capsizing! AND THEY WONT CUT DOWN THE TRUCK! I’ve got me hands on the railing, and readying meself for life on the keel! This ship’s gonna flip so fast, I may be thrown over and off the keel! And if that happens??? I’m gonna beat the living s~~~ out of anybody looking board me wreckage! I won’t be asking ya ta f~~~ off and die, I’ll be pointing ya in the direction!
So you feminist ship flipping c~~~s can consider yourselves FOREWARNED! CHIVALRY IS DEAD….

‘fraid she’s had it boys.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

We of the MGTOW are much like John Galt of Atlas Shrugged. We have went our own way. We plan to neither aid, nor fight the beast that is this society.

Many of us MGTOW do our best not feed the beast. Some MGTOW have even gone so far as to lead minimalist lifestyles to not feed the beast.

The rest of you will stand or fall on your own merits and labors.

We MGTOW will simply be watching from the sidelines, unless you force us to defend ourselves. Just because we prefer a non-violent approach to the s~~~ heap we call life, does not mean we do not know how to fight.

Many of us MGTOW take the non-violent approach, because in this manner, we know that when we leave this earth, we will do so with a clean conscience.

In addition, we of the MGTOW realize that civilization is collapsing. When you realize you cannot live without us. Then, we will come in, fix, and rebuild civilization. But, we will do so on our terms. Not yours.

[Anonymous 29]

In mid 80’s, western or first world countries started slowly inching their political orientation towards neo-liberalism.
An old form of politics (fascism) re branded as Neo-Liberalism . Feminism was already in full swing by that time but it was a god send to Neo-Libertarians. Feminism created a political correctness climate where free speech is slowly but surely repressed, a perfect enviroment for what may seem like a new world order.

This is not a conspiracy theory, like when companies agree behind closed doors to create a monopoly to get as much money out of a customer as possible, but rather an unspoken agreement where politicians and governments are copying what others are doing politically.

The problem is that most first world people/populations are not politics savy nor do they understand political science and therefore unable to see politics for what they truly are currently. We have entered into time’s of the Vultures, times of the Fascism.
Just look at China and their politics for example. Are they a communist country every one feared or are they something entirely different
despite what the politicians say ?

Yes the decline is on, that is why I wrote time of the vulture’s .

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

It had to end sometime……

-Riddick-

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Now, why must europe be flooded with muslims? The elites are unhappy with ideas of democracy and individual rights, that sprung up in the midst of white europeans. The elites prefer theocracy, because then they can make any damn rule they want, and it doesnt have to be reasonable, they can just say god said so. So therefore, they are seeding europe with muslims, with some extreme radicals no doubt mixed it, and have made it illegal for native europeans to complain. Europe will be under shariah law in a couple generations, by design.

People forget that for nobility system of government to work, there must be blood ties between the leader and the leader’s servants.

If there is no blood tie, the servants will consider the nobility to be outsiders, and the servants will overthrow them.

Should you go back a thousand years. Every native European is related to all other native Europeans. However small, from the most powerful king to the poorest servant, there is a blood tie between them.

Those that control Europe are flooding the nations they control with people with no blood ties to them. And they will be overthrown by the very hordes they welcomed into their nations.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Snake wrote:

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I wish they had the full version of that “finest kebab” song still around. Was hilarious.

Indeed fellow /k/ommrad your post gave me moist nuggets..

[HitmanParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

In addition, we of the MGTOW realize that civilization is collapsing. When you realize you cannot live without us. Then, we will come in, fix, and rebuild civilization. But, we will do so on our terms. Not yours.

well said .i will not help as long as i am not wanted . revolution is in the air .

[HitmanParticipant]

it is the women of the tribe, who secretly know that they may have a lifestyle upgrade by becoming part of the harem of the invading warlord, and who get wet at the thought of the strange c~~~, even if she loses the rest of her family in the process of attaining it.

so , western men have given women almost everything they asked for , and then they changed their minds and want to be veiled and ” kept ” ? damn , maybe that makes sense to a woman ..but it’s mind boggling to me !

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Hitman wrote:

well said .i will not help as long as i am not wanted . revolution is in the air .

Thank you.

Women, and society demand we work, we fight, we suffer, and we die, for them, for nothing in return.

Well, no one works for nothing. Not even a slave.

Napoleon Bonaparte stated that, “An army marches on its stomach.”

And since we are not even getting one piece of the pie, we are not marching.

Hitman wrote:

so , western men have given women almost everything they asked for , and then they changed their minds and want to be veiled and ” kept ” ? damn , maybe that makes sense to a woman ..but it’s mind boggling to me !

I realize that a person has to work at being happy. And women in this present day and age are to spoiled to actually work for what they want. They want everything handed to them.

These women want to be “kept” because they figure that way they will be handled what they want without actually working.

[HitmanParticipant]

insane ..all you said is true ..damn ..

[Anonymous 42]

It’s all about ebb and flow,,,,
Feminism rises to new heights, and society sinks to new lows!
Governments become more powerful, people become surfs!
A unified global UN spells the destruction of sovereignty for country and man alike, also the end of free speech, delivering of all mankind into bondage!
What better way to control, than to control absolutely?
Implanted UN chip gets turned off, you’re dead! You literately don’t exist!
In a monolithic society, someone, somewhere, is always in position to decide who lives and who dies!
To them you’re just a number on a screen, a blip one minute, erased the next.
Only female input can create such a monstrous beast! Never before have women held so much power! Never before have so many men suffered under the tyranny of “empowered” woman.
They kill their own offspring in the most savage display of selfishness, what makes men any different?

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Matt: Shut up, Robert! [to Jed] Tell me what’s the difference between us and them!
Jed: Because … we live here!!

[Everything is all we’ve gotParticipant 233]

I’m counting the days until there’s eventually an uprising on the streets, I absolutely cannot stand Islam. I don’t really understand some of the comments about how because we are MGTOW it means we should be completely passive about all this.

"You can suffer from a life experience, or you can learn, move on and thrive."

[MotivParticipant 441]

Its to cause unrest and bring Europe to economic mess

Cool story babe now go make me a sandwich

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